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More proof of multiple timelines/continuity errors strarting from Stranger Things Season 1. Just look at the two people in the background under the EXIT sign. They were far behind Nancy and Barb, and then, in the very next second, they're in front of them. Also, there was a hallway on the left, but suddenly it's gone and a row of lockers appears instead.
You need to be kidding me! You have to check out the end credits of the Stranger Things finale. It looks like the end of the Demo life cycle is Mike! First, there’s David and Winona. Then there’s Hawkins Lab Room 11, followed by Eleven with an Eggo, with Millie’s name shown. Next comes the Demo life cycle, starting with Dart and ending with a fully grown Demo, and Mike is shown with Finn’s name!
Also check out my previous post regarding the same!
https://www.tumblr.com/cicadanu/820782535095238656/call-me-delusional-s1-when-el-encounters-the
My wild severance, Mission Impossible, Fargo, Alien Earth, ST, Loki etc etc forever thoughts for the day
Nice - So you're telling me Ethan Hunt IS a cyborg?
From Alien Earth
One of my angry sticking points from AE is that the music didn't match. It was 90s? I thin. What if it's because we are in the 90s and whatever ai they're training was fed one of those bad scripts i talked about in the other post??? There's so many actors in this show that were on Fargo and Reghabi from Severance.
Scorpion: The Cyborg played by olyphant says I found it in the mess. The mess, in arizona or New Mexico?? Maybe?? fwiw we see two scorpions in season 5 of stranger things in Camazotz
Then we get a flash of this:
OKAY CHERNOBYL YOUR GATE IS BACK ON THE TABLE 👏👏
Then this radio tower shows up when Boy Kavalier is reading
Sorry for the glare
Idk idk definitely not coincidences at this point
I know that's probably you Henry lol
Boy Kavalier has a ball he uses like Doc Owens
It doesn't help he looks like young Paul Reiser
Anywho that's it for now
From what I remember there's a barry lyndon candlelight scene in this show too
Idk if anyone has pointed this out i feel like someone did the top of the last supper is the same as the rainbow room, severance's office, and loki's theater room
This also appeared recently in Devil wears prada 2 on a huge fresco which is how i noticed the top lol
That's all for now. I just started Age of Ultron. This is frackin related - the dissemination of nazi tech into the modern world. I'll make another post for Ultron because I haven't seen it in years and ten minutes in I'm already cackling. I think Dr Strucker? is probably related to Hargreeves somehow [squid nazi] or is at least using tech derived from him/his squid people
hooooo boy
mike wheeler is going to be alright, guys
cute little moment from the s4 epilogue for my subtext enthusiasts
mike gives his evaluation of the state of the cabin. a total disaster. it's all broken and messy. he doesn't see how it can be mended.
grody = repulsive, disgusting, dirty
nancy connects the dirty and cluttered cabin to mike's room. mike's room subtextually represents his inner world, his mind and private thoughts and feelings.
mike feels there is something repulsive, disgusting and dirty about him. a total disaster. but wait a minute
water still works! there is still hope for mike. water (feelings, someone's love) can help with cleaning the cabin (making mike believe he's not dirty and disgusting at all).
it is so sweet that it's nancy who says it. i hope this means that she'll accept mike and show him that his situation is not that bad.
will, jane, nancy and jonathan all help to clean up the cabin.
but the first to receive the mop?
mike wheeler himself! well, it's his job in the first place.
and he's doing goddamn well
similar pigtails, blue-checked clothes, a collar of the same type, puff sleeves: one more Dorothy?
Ah this!
Suzie in Stranger Things - Dorothy from Wizard of Oz
So, in S5, there's a mention of Dorothy from The Wizard of Oz. Dorothy in Oz is Suzie, we can see a The Wizard of Oz poster in her bedroom. Dorothy doesn't age, and she's looked after by Aunt Em (M) and Uncle Henry (Vecna)!
Suzie has to be some sort of time traveler because I have found a Brigham Young University poster on her wall. Now, Brigham Young is a university, and she’s in high school. Also, I found a video where there was HTML on a computer, even though HTML wasn’t introduced until 90s.
Call me delusional, S1 when El encounters the fully grown demogorgon (blue), we assume it’s eating something (yellow) but, its hands are positioned, it looks like it’s kissing something. If grown-up Demo is Mike, then👀
Please please rewatch the scene, there were no traces of blood on the demo, only spit, and it feeds on something in a different way. It attacks and feeds with its head lowered, as shown in the show.
If the Demo was “kissing” the yellow thing in the Void/UD and Eleven interrupted it, then at the same time, in parallel in Hawkins, Mike was in a happy, lovestruck mood when he went out to see Will off. Then Will revealed that he had lied, interrupting that happy moment. Mike got mad, and the lights started flickering.
I have a theory about a mother and her lost child!
The mother is the MindFlayer, and her lost child is in the lab. Who abducted the child? Dr. Brenner senior. ST could be a show about the fight between the MF and Dr. Brenner to get her child back who is trapped in the lab. Just like Terry did.
Now, hear me out: Dr. Brenner is always malicious, and who is still connecting with us even after ST ended? It's Papa (Matthew Modine). Papa abducts kids, so what if his dad abducted the MF's kid when he made contact with the other dimension in 1943?
We have seen this MF particle, possibly the kid, trapped in Russia. MF sent Joyce to Russia. Also, there is a mention of a mother losing her kid from the Creel House. Now, the MF is referred to as a woman (by the WSQK radio hosts, Mindy and Vance).
Now, the MF has been using Henry to fight against Papa, and Henry revealed the MF's plan to Joyce, as mentioned in The First Shadow. Will definitely escaped because the MF didn't want to abduct him; she just wanted to fight and get her child back from the lab.
Maybe that’s why they couldn’t stop the machine in S3, the MF didn’t want the machine to stop until she finds her kid. Now Dr. Brenner could’ve hidden the child MF somewhere for malicious intent. The same emotions of a kid and lost mother worked with Billy.
Reposting w/my comment here so I don't lose it~
Brenner is definitely the "big bad" imo. Unresolved trauma from him and his father Brenner Senior, it hints in the stage play.
AND in Happy Sad Confused with Josh Horowitz, both Matt & Ross put Brenner at the bottom of the list of bad guys. It feels like the obvious decision but if you actually look at Brenner then...nah, it's gonna be "the twist you don't see coming".
Humans are the real monsters! Gaten did say a Scooby-Doo crossover would be amazing. And who are the monsters? Humans, always
Matthew Modine also made a post on instagram (stories?) saying that the monsters that exist are humans (political I am sure) but lines up with this thought.
Love this!
As I mentioned earlier, I think the final battle is between Mama Mind Flayer and Vecna versus Dr. Brenner, as they try to get her child back from him. Mama MF and Vecna have been preparing Will (byler included) and his friends, as well as Joyce and Hopper, for this confrontation. All the terrible things that happened were actually caused by Papa using the baby Mind Flayer. He has been abusing the baby MF for years, just as he abused the other children in the lab. The baby Mind Flayer has become angry, and Papa has been using that anger to manipulate people. Also, notice how Papa keeps changing El’s memories and making Henry/Vecna look like the bad guy!
Papa being the ultimate 3 headed monster, and El, Will, Mike ( 🌈 sprinkles, big shadow and little shadows) helping Mama MF to reunite with her kid proved?
Guess what I found? An "Endless Summer" poster in Max’s bedroom.
S4 ends with song “It sends you spinning, you’ve no choice”, and what if the characters never gotten out of the summer? What if Papa has been drugging everyone, and they’ve been trapped in a dream this whole time?
If my theory is correct, he must have been using the baby Mind Flayer and Scoops Ahoy ice cream (remember the The Stuff movie reference?). What if Papa has been creating an Elder Brain using the baby MF and the collective consciousness to fight against Mama MF?
That would mean the characters have been dreaming since Season 4, and we, the audience, have been dreaming all the way to s5. We need to wake up, and the characters need to wake up too.
Maybe that’s why Sadie said she forgot the Russian plot, because it never actually happened. In Season 3, they couldn’t stop the machine because it needed Will, Mike, and El. The Planck constant for 1985 had to be correct. Maybe it hasn’t happened yet... maybe it happens in the future?
Oh my God! So El is following Max’s memories while she was possessed, and both Max and El see the Snow Ball, starting with the song “Every Breath You Take.” The song starts in S2E9, focusing on Mike looking sad when Will goes to dance with a girl. So, according to Season 2, the Snow Ball was a good memory for both Max and El, they both kissed their boyfriends.
But then, in the next scene, the balloons burst red while the song “Dream a Little Dream of Me” plays:
“Say, ‘Nighty-night’ and kiss me
Just hold me tight and tell me you’ll miss me
While I’m alone and blue as can be
Dream a little dream of me.”
Max and El both look confused, and El says it’s a memory. When Argyle says, “It’s a memory within a memory,” the camera focuses on Mike, who looks absolutely frightened!
OMG! As much as I despise the theory that Mike has something to do with all of this, I can’t help but agree with it. What if it’s Mike’s memory? He was feeling devastated when Will went to dance with the girl. What do you mean by the lyrics saying “blue as can be”? It was Mike’s memory. OMG! 😱
I have a theory about a mother and her lost child!
The mother is the MindFlayer, and her lost child is in the lab. Who abducted the child? Dr. Brenner senior. ST could be a show about the fight between the MF and Dr. Brenner to get her child back who is trapped in the lab. Just like Terry did.
Now, hear me out: Dr. Brenner is always malicious, and who is still connecting with us even after ST ended? It's Papa (Matthew Modine). Papa abducts kids, so what if his dad abducted the MF's kid when he made contact with the other dimension in 1943?
We have seen this MF particle, possibly the kid, trapped in Russia. MF sent Joyce to Russia. Also, there is a mention of a mother losing her kid from the Creel House. Now, the MF is referred to as a woman (by the WSQK radio hosts, Mindy and Vance).
Now, the MF has been using Henry to fight against Papa, and Henry revealed the MF's plan to Joyce, as mentioned in The First Shadow. Will definitely escaped because the MF didn't want to abduct him; she just wanted to fight and get her child back from the lab.
Maybe that’s why they couldn’t stop the machine in S3, the MF didn’t want the machine to stop until she finds her kid. Now Dr. Brenner could’ve hidden the child MF somewhere for malicious intent. The same emotions of a kid and lost mother worked with Billy.
Reposting w/my comment here so I don't lose it~
Brenner is definitely the "big bad" imo. Unresolved trauma from him and his father Brenner Senior, it hints in the stage play.
AND in Happy Sad Confused with Josh Horowitz, both Matt & Ross put Brenner at the bottom of the list of bad guys. It feels like the obvious decision but if you actually look at Brenner then...nah, it's gonna be "the twist you don't see coming".
Humans are the real monsters! Gaten did say a Scooby-Doo crossover would be amazing. And who are the monsters? Humans, always
Matthew Modine also made a post on instagram (stories?) saying that the monsters that exist are humans (political I am sure) but lines up with this thought.
Love this!
As I mentioned earlier, I think the final battle is between Mama Mind Flayer and Vecna versus Dr. Brenner, as they try to get her child back from him. Mama MF and Vecna have been preparing Will (byler included) and his friends, as well as Joyce and Hopper, for this confrontation. All the terrible things that happened were actually caused by Papa using the baby Mind Flayer. He has been abusing the baby MF for years, just as he abused the other children in the lab. The baby Mind Flayer has become angry, and Papa has been using that anger to manipulate people. Also, notice how Papa keeps changing El’s memories and making Henry/Vecna look like the bad guy!
I have a theory about a mother and her lost child!
The mother is the MindFlayer, and her lost child is in the lab. Who abducted the child? Dr. Brenner senior. ST could be a show about the fight between the MF and Dr. Brenner to get her child back who is trapped in the lab. Just like Terry did.
Now, hear me out: Dr. Brenner is always malicious, and who is still connecting with us even after ST ended? It's Papa (Matthew Modine). Papa abducts kids, so what if his dad abducted the MF's kid when he made contact with the other dimension in 1943?
We have seen this MF particle, possibly the kid, trapped in Russia. MF sent Joyce to Russia. Also, there is a mention of a mother losing her kid from the Creel House. Now, the MF is referred to as a woman (by the WSQK radio hosts, Mindy and Vance).
Now, the MF has been using Henry to fight against Papa, and Henry revealed the MF's plan to Joyce, as mentioned in The First Shadow. Will definitely escaped because the MF didn't want to abduct him; she just wanted to fight and get her child back from the lab.
Maybe that’s why they couldn’t stop the machine in S3, the MF didn’t want the machine to stop until she finds her kid. Now Dr. Brenner could’ve hidden the child MF somewhere for malicious intent. The same emotions of a kid and lost mother worked with Billy.
Reposting w/my comment here so I don't lose it~
Brenner is definitely the "big bad" imo. Unresolved trauma from him and his father Brenner Senior, it hints in the stage play.
AND in Happy Sad Confused with Josh Horowitz, both Matt & Ross put Brenner at the bottom of the list of bad guys. It feels like the obvious decision but if you actually look at Brenner then...nah, it's gonna be "the twist you don't see coming".
Humans are the real monsters! Gaten did say a Scooby-Doo crossover would be amazing. And who are the monsters? Humans, always
Matthew Modine also made a post on instagram (stories?) saying that the monsters that exist are humans (political I am sure) but lines up with this thought.
Love this!
I have a theory about a mother and her lost child!
The mother is the MindFlayer, and her lost child is in the lab. Who abducted the child? Dr. Brenner senior. ST could be a show about the fight between the MF and Dr. Brenner to get her child back who is trapped in the lab. Just like Terry did.
Now, hear me out: Dr. Brenner is always malicious, and who is still connecting with us even after ST ended? It's Papa (Matthew Modine). Papa abducts kids, so what if his dad abducted the MF's kid when he made contact with the other dimension in 1943?
We have seen this MF particle, possibly the kid, trapped in Russia. MF sent Joyce to Russia. Also, there is a mention of a mother losing her kid from the Creel House. Now, the MF is referred to as a woman (by the WSQK radio hosts, Mindy and Vance).
Now, the MF has been using Henry to fight against Papa, and Henry revealed the MF's plan to Joyce, as mentioned in The First Shadow. Will definitely escaped because the MF didn't want to abduct him; she just wanted to fight and get her child back from the lab.
Maybe that’s why they couldn’t stop the machine in S3, the MF didn’t want the machine to stop until she finds her kid. Now Dr. Brenner could’ve hidden the child MF somewhere for malicious intent. The same emotions of a kid and lost mother worked with Billy.
Holy shit, this is trippy (trippygate, p.2)
(don’t miss the Carlton Easter egg 🪺)
🌺 Poppies
they do grow in Indiana (we checked)
and they grow indoor, in a psychologist’s office…
we saw them even in a Cali sequence too!
poppies is The Wizard of Oz “sleepy” reference, but also they are the source of opiates (drugs)
I don't know if anyone has realized it, but the show has been breaking the fourth wall and going meta for a long time.
Some of us believe in the Conformity Gate theory and that the finale season is fake. Whether it is completely fake, we're not sure, but the show may have given us some clues, especially through the costumes.
Now that we know how much attention they pay to every detail in the costumes, I think this is intentional, and the Duffer Brothers want us to notice it.
I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this before.
Wherever this specific pattern appears, the scenes seem to be altered either for us, the audience, or for the characters. My theory is that whenever the pattern is prominently visible, the scenes are completely altered for us by the Mind Flayer and Vecna.
For example, look at everyone's ties in the finale graduation scenes.
The patterns: rings/tunnels, eyes, spirals, etc. Now, I'm not D&D-savvy, but according to my observations, the altered/flayed scenes are indicated by costumes featuring these patterns.
Scenes that may be altered for the audience:
El opening the gate (Mike and Vickie wearing a visible pattern)
Mike and El's scenes after The Sorcerer
Scenes with Max and Vickie
Nancy and Jonathan breaking up
Final graduation scenes (everyone's ties have the pattern)
Scenes in Shock Jock (Mike wearing a visible pattern)
Will's coming-out scene
Hopper and Joyce getting engaged
Scenes that may be altered for the characters, especially Mike, Will, Nancy, and Steve wearing the pattern partially visible or camouflaged by jackets):
Starting from Turnbow Trap,
including Mike fighting with the demos
McZ scenes
Finale scenes
Mike and Will's tower scene
Jonathan saving Steve
The finale fight scenes with the monster
Mike's scenes with Eleven
My theory is that the scenes after The Sorcerermight be completely fake, a narrative created by the Mind Flayer and shown to both Mike and the audience.
By the beginning of The Sorcerer, Mike appears to be experiencing hallucinations or distorted perceptions (with "F203" mentioned in the background). ICD-10 code F20.3 refers to Undifferentiated Schizophrenia. He starts having visions, and perhaps our minds, as viewers, have been flayed as well.
By The Right Side Up, every scene may be part of that altered reality.
It started from Season 4: Look at Jonathan’s shirt and the background!!! 👀
I think Joyce and Murray’s trip to Alaska didn’t happen. I just noticed that at the start of the trip, someone was literally smoking inside the plane. Did they allow that? I think it’s fake because, you know what? At the end of the trip, they showed a No Smoking sign! Also, I remember Sadie mentioning that she totally forgot the Russia plot. Totally suspicious! 👀😆
I was rewatching S3 as they asked to, and I might have found out when they'll give us updates about the next volume. They mentioned three waterfalls. I noticed Billy wearing a cap that says "Niagara Falls." There are three waterfalls at Niagara! Check out their names! OMG!
The three waterfalls of Niagara Falls are Horseshoe Falls, American Falls, and Bridal Veil Falls. So, should we wait for Horseshoe Falls first? They said wait for the horses? The last week of June? (The trip to China sounds nice.), the Chinese lunar dates? Then American Falls on the 4th of July? And then Bridal Veil Falls on August 25th? 👀
Trip to China sounds nice : Horse (June last week), American (4th of July), and the Veil (25th of August), according to the Chinese lunar calendar! Finn asking us to wait for the horses! Maybe we will get something by the end of June 2026?
I'm not delusional, the 4th of July was mentioned multiple times in S3.
