The French Connection, Translated (4/23, 11:33am)
Thanks again to @cormsylk for transcribing!
Cam 3 - 11: 33 - living room - April 23
Camera switched to them mid conversation. Something about William trying to listen at the door. Not sure if this was the current convo happening with Kevin-Ika/Dem in HOH.
Dre: How I feel is that I know that Bruno and Kevin’s pitch was to say that the 5 of us in the middle are not playing a very good game, however we’re passing through the cracks because there’s a big battle between the 2 of them vs the other 2. And I know that, well I don’t know if they names specific names, because sometimes Ika will exaggerate things, like a lot. And at the same time that’s her game so whatever. I don’t know if they names specific names. It wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but at the same time its possible they didn’t. But what I do know is that their pitch was to say that us 5 were in the middle slipping through the cracks, and if the 4 of them got together they could get us out before they start going against each other. And I also know that they mentioned that its very easy for us 5 to say bad things against Bruno and Kevin, because it’ll make Ika and Demetres go after them instead of us 5. So we are protecting each other by making up things that Bruno and Kevin are saying that aren’t true. And from that, I think they tired to clear up some things, and while doing that they lied.
William: Well, I hope that the 2 don’t believe…
Dre: Well, that’s the thing, the 2 from each side are lying…
William: Too convince themselves
Dre: To convince themselves
William: Not go after each other, but they know they still will…like if I was one of the duos, I’d be like uh huh, but I’d be like ah ha.
Dre: But it’s working because Ika did come afterwards and asked if there was an alliance to get them out. Them being the veterans and I was like “no, really not”. And then she was like “ Did you know that Karen wants to get out all the vets?”, and I said “ From the start, but everybody knows that”. Karen is Karen. Everybody knows it. But she said” Well I didn’t really know, and now I feel like maybe you do want to get us out in a way”. And I said “Ok, but there’s no relevance, like no” And she was like…not that she looked convinced, but she looked like she was really starting to doubt not only me, but…
William: The only thing that scares me is if I use it on Kevin, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were like…they tried to put you up
Dre: Yeah
William: And I can’t blame them, because you would probably do the same with if it was the reverse, like…
Dre: No, what do you mean? I don’t understand what you are saying…I wouldn’t put you on the block
William: No, you wouldn’t put me on the block, but they would try to put you on the block like you would put them on the block if you were in their position.
Dre: yeah
William: Precisely so they could keep Bruno
Dre: I feel like, I don’t know, there’s a lot of things being said that aren’t necessarily true, and again I know that Jackie said she was in an alliance with those 2, and that Kevin was the one who revealed everybody’s cards and told her how everyone was “playing” and who they should go after, and what the plan was, and it was a pretty exhaustive plan. The minute the Jackie was saved over Sindy…
And both of them, so Kevin and Bruno, were saying things to Sindy,, and then to Jackie, but they were different things, and the minute that…
All that so that if ever Sindy left, they needed Jackie to be with them
And the minute that Demetres got power, both of them went in the bedroom and were like “Ok, we’re going to reveal everything. We were in an alliance with Jackie, bla bla bla, she’s the one who wants you out, not us, bla bla bla”. And then Jackie went to see them and apparently they told her that apparently Jackie had some evil plan. And Jackie went to see them and was like “I have things to say, like that’s not how it went down, like yes we were in an alliance, and yes we wanted you, Ika, out, but it’s Kevin and Bruno that said that you were the one that was masterminding everything when it came to, like, Demetres and all the other people that you have”. And Ika told her” “When you’re mad, and you go around giving information left and right, you look like a liar” and Jackie was like “No it’s the truth”
Dre: And I get the feeling that I misjudged Jackie. I have the feeling that she doesn’t lie as much as I said she lies.
William: No, I don’t think so either and I should’ve trusted her and kept playing with her.
Dre: She doesn’t lie, and she said that, the day of the vote, Ika told her that they wouldn’t vote her out, but that she couldn’t go after them if they voted for her, and she was like “ok, I won’t do it”. No, no, sorry, before that she went to see Ika, and she was like “ Can we make peace? I won’t go after you and you won’t come after me?” And Ika was like “Ok, if I keep you here this week, I won’t go after you and you won’t come after me”. She then went to Kevin and Bruno that I wasn’t true, like she did it, but she was really with them and all that.
But when Kevin and Bruno went to see Ika to reveal the alliance, she got mad, and she felt betrayed, and she told Ika that overtime she got close to someone, they betrayed her, and then they leave. And she was like “I want to work with people, but there’s no one to work with”. And honestly I believe her. Like honestly, I never really wanted her out. It was always Kevin and Bruno. It’s true that I don’t like her much, so whatever, but I believe her. That she tried to work with people and they betrayed her. I believe her that everybody left, and I believe her when she says that when she gets mad, she gives out information, but I think its true information. She’s not coming up with evil plans. She;’s just like “You speak against me, I’ll speak against you”. Exactly like she did against Cassandra, and we see her as a bad player, because its not necessarily the best thing to do, but I don’t think she lies. I think she tells the truth. And it’s just a shame that everybody that she tried to work with just fucked her over. And that, unfortunately, includes Kevin and Bruno.
As much as you adore Kevin, a part of me is still like, I don’t know, it find it weird that he wants to build this trust, but hat he has no problem going to tell them that us 5…to tell them that they need to get together to get us 5 out, because the 5 in the middle are floating, and they’re slipping through the cracks and things.
William: But he told me that. That they were pointing at the 5 in the middle.
Dre: So he would come after you anyways?
William: Yeah, but… You know he’s going to say the 5 in the middle just to say the 5 in the middle. But is he going to come after me personally? It would give him what? For him to get me out. Honestly? He’s going to keep Ika and Demetres take me out. Come on!
Dre: So he would be telling you the truth, but he would be lying to them?
William: I don’t think he’s saying, like, what he’s saying to them. It’s true that they want to go after the 5. It’s true that he wants…
Dre: Why would they go against the 5 before going after those 2? I don’t get it.
William: Well, they want to stay together Dre. They’re not going to go “yes yes come after us” They want to play. They want to stay together so yes, they’ll go after the 5.
(William really stumbling and like stuttering here)
In the end, they probably won’t go after the middle. They’re not going to go after like Jackie. They feel betrayed by them for what they did to Sindy. They could give a fuck. They’re going after her. They’ve already felt betrayed…Sindy felt so betrayed be her. Sindy believed her, and believed her, and kept believing her. Apparently when I was HOH, Ika was like “ok, now you’re going to wait, and then you’ll say this, this and this to Will, and then say this, and like Sindy you need to stop talking game to Dre”.
Dre: I never talked game to Sindy.
William: At the beginning, like very beginning. She said “Don’t talk to them at all”. Sindy believed her. That’s why she put up Neda. Neda told her to put up Dre or Karen, and Ika told her no. To put Neda up. And Sindy believed her. She believed Ika. She really believed her so she did. That’s why she put her up.
Dre: Ok.
William: And then after that, when it came time, Ika fucked her over, and she ended up on the block and left. So she felt betrayed. And those 2 also felt fucked.
Dre: Then why did they get her out? Why didn’t they pitch to keep her?
William: Kevin and Bruno?
Dre: Yeah
William: Because they thought they could get Jackie, I imagine.
Dre: So yeah, how is that better? I’m on like neither side. I want everyone to go. Truthfully, I’ve always said it. I’m on neither side. But I’ve tried to make the best decisions for us to get as par as possible
Still cam 3 - living room - 11:42
Dre: And as much as they tell us in the bedroom, “she did this, she did that, she did this”. And I tell myself “ you on; t have any thinking power? You can’t think for yourself and realize its not good?” They really didn’t want Neda to go, but we all voted and it was 7-1. Why wasn’t it 5-3? Or 4-4. And then you could’ve let Sindy make the decision. Why was it 7-1? The only person that didn’t vote for Neda was Jackie. But they really didn’t want Neda to go…But when Sindy said she was putting her on the block…We all had the same idea William. Everybody wanted Neda to go as soon as she lost her immunity because she got a free pass to the jury…
William: Yeah, but exactly, for Kevin his number 1 is Bruno. He doesn’t want to lose him
Dre: Bruno told me his number 1 was Sindy. I think Bruno was in the middle and has trying to, to…
William: Yeah, but Kevin, his number 1 was Bruno. So you know, he didn’t want to lose him. That’s probably why for Kevin…Sindy, he surely wanted to keep her, but he told himself that making a campaign to keep her wasn’t worth it.
Dre: But does it make sense that thy brought us in the bedroom, and how they see the game is to have the best representative for BB Canada at the end…
William: The way I see it: They want to be together. They don’t want to play like shit. In the sense that Sindy wouldn’t have wanted to be in the finals with someone who didn’t…
Dre; the didn’t play well?
William: I didn’t see her quite like that, but more like she wanted somebody she liked. I saw it more like that. ⁰In their season, like if you look at their season Dre, there were no lies, or like
Dre: Yeah, there was no drama
William: Exactly, those people were in that season. It was 1 side against the other side. They weren’t trying to stir up shit, and like…
Dre: It’s the same people that told Mark to go upstairs and lie, and go talk in the bathroom to save himself. It’s the same people who did that.
William: They sent him to lie? You don’t think he decided to do that.
Dre: No. I don’t think he came up with that on his own. And I don’t think it was Jackie that told him to lie. Because it was Mark, Dallas, Kevin, Dillon, and I forget the 5th, but no. These are the same guys who are super honest, and when Bruno wins the POV, instead of saving his friend Mark, he leaves him on the block. It’s the same people who did that. Its the same people who say “no, no we didn’t want Neda out”. But when she’s on the block , they vote her out. And after that Bruno will say “ Actions speak louder than words”. But his actions show this. And then they’re going to go try to convince Ika and Demetres that us 5 are against them, and us 5 are going to get out the vets. That we’re getting them out. Well weren’t they voting the same way? When Dallas was on the block, who voted him out
William: Well I don’t know. They’re scared cause now they’ve ended up alone. Ooof I don’t know.
Dre: I don’;t know what’s going to happen
William: Well me, I want Bruno to go, and if Kevin is against him, that’s not going to happen. I can’t do anything with Bruno. He doesn’t trust me. So it won’t work with him.
Dre: Well why don’t we try to campaign. Like what would be Kevin’s campaign? Why wouldn’t Kevin campaign and come talk to us to get the votes, and see what happens after.
William: I don’t know. I’ll try to ask him.
Dre; Because, although you want to save him, and its true that he wouldn’t put you on the block, and yes I believe that he wouldn’t go against you, its absolutely true, and yes it gives you one more ally. I totally understand. But you’re turning against other people. And when I tell you that I think I can get Jackie and Dillon and all that, it’s a possibility. I’m honest with you and I’m not telling you 100%, but I think I will be able to talk to them, but if I talk to them and it doesn’t work, or if you do this, and then I go talk to them to try to keep them with us, and not have them come against us…
William: I don’t know if Dillon would keep him. Dillon is scared. He doesn’t trust me. He thinks I’m with him. He going to do what she (Ika) wants. I’m sure of that.
Dre: Seriously, if I was Ika, I would get out Kevin. That makes sense.
William: I’m going to talk to them later.
William leaves to go to the bathroom, and Dre goes to talk to Ika
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