"everyone with a vulva has TWO different holes, (cis) boys are so stupid for thinking we pee from our vagina!" -> incorrect, contributes to the erasure of intersex people with vulval hypospadias/persistent urogenital sinus, makes us feel broken/alienated/confused
"most people with a vulva have two holes, the urethra is typically halfway between the clitoris and the vagina, but there are intersex people who have them very close together or the urethra inside the vagina" -> actually good sex ed, clarifies both the typical vulval set up while also treating intersex bodies as normal, helps people who don't realize they have vulval hypospadias understand their own bodies
I would also add:
1: Some people have more than one urethra. (urethral duplication. sometimes even urethral triplication + etc) So it's not always just two holes down there.
2: Some people's urethras are located higher than typical. (epispadias)
3: Some people with vulvas do not have a vagina. (this can be as a result of many different things, and has many different names)
And more. Hypospadias is important to talk about, but y'know, there's more urethral, vulvar, and vaginal intersex traits out there that deserve to be mentioned too.
For the record, I'm agreeing with OP here, who made a great point. I just wanted to add on.
And additional question if someone is willing to answer: what counts as “in the vagina”? Is the vagina just the whole concave area down there, or is the vagina specifically past the hymen (the ring of muscles or whatever it is)?
And does anyone know of a place with good diagrams or pictures of vulvas? So many diagrams online are simplified to the point of unhelpfulness.
(disclaimer: not a doctor!)
with vulval hypospadias, medically there's so little research that the definition is vague. but subjectively, i find the categories of this Russian paper from 2021 to be helpful enough in getting a picture of what it can look like (described as best I understand it from reading it thru google translate; tw for cissexist and perisexist language at the link):
vestibular / partial hypospadias is when the urethra is distinct from the vagina, but close to the opening / introitus (online amongst other people w vh, the rule of thumb ive seen is ~1 cm or less; this paper doesn't specify measurements for this type)
vestibulovaginal / subtotal hypospadias is when the urethra is close enough to the introitus (0.2-3 cm or less) that they are nearly combined, but it's still outside the vaginal canal itself
vaginal / total hypospadias is when the urethra is located on the wall of the vagina, past the introitus (this is also called a persistent urogenital sinus; that term and vulval hypospadias are often used interchangeably)
here's a diagram they use in that paper which I think shows the inner workings fairly well (top right is typical, top left is vestibular, bottom right is vestibulovaginal, bottom left is vaginal; the little shaded bean at the top is the clitoris)
some more images that might be helpful below the cut (you are very right, a lot of diagrams are. dubiously useful lmao)
Thank you!












