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ORIGINAL TRILOGY APPRECIATION WEEK 2021 Day 7 - Free Choice | Favorite Dynamic I knew you’d come back. I just knew it. Well, I wasn’t going to let you get all the credit and take all the reward.
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Star Wars: Episode IV — A New Hope (1977) dir. George Lucas
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope dir. George Lucas | 1977
Give yourself to the Dark Side. It is the only way you can save your friends. Yes, your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for… sister. So, you have a twin sister. Your feelings have now betrayed her, too. Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his failure is complete. If you will not turn to the Dark Side… then perhaps she will.
Luke, you do not yet realize your importance. You’ve only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict, and bring order to the galaxy!
Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back (1980) dir. Irvin Kershner
I knew you’d come back. I just knew it.
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Okay so this is just… wrong. It’s wrong. The question this person was asking is why Luke Skywalker isn’t as culturally popular like Anakin, Obi-Wan, Padme, etc.
For one, the main reason is this generation grew up on the prequels not the originals. This generation immediately attaches to the prequel trilogy because of this. Additionally, Luke barely has any content… ever. He had 3 movies that doesn’t have enough lightsaber battles or flashy battle scenes to hook a lot of the close minded fans in. The next 2 movies ruin his character completely. No fucking wonder Luke isn’t popular anymore.
Two, Is Luke NOT supposed to have flaws? Ah yes he must be this perfect person who never makes mistakes and always does whats right. Sounds like a Gary Stu… Disney tried that and look what happened to Rey. People HATE her including me. She’s probably the weakest protagonist in all of star wars. Most people in Luke’s position would have done the same or worse… but go off i guess.
Luke’s overpowered? OVERPOWERED? He could barely use the force in empire strikes back, lost against Vader in ESB and lost his HAND. He literally had to access the dark side to defeat Vader. He is FAR from being oVerPoWeRed. Also did we forget when he failed to save Han?
Luke IS a underdog thats the whole point. He’s a farmboy trying to topple down a empire and two sith lords who have decades of years of experience. Luke is way over his head. All of the odds are stacked AGAINST him. But ah yes Luke is a overpowered whiny farmboy who isn’t this cool, flirtatious guy so he is a bad character.
Please shut up. Some people like heroes that can actually inspire them. Absolutely no hate to Han, he’s great.
Okay, hold the hell up here. I’m sorry, I have to add some comments here, please, no offense but I have to talk about what you excerpted here @princealderann because I agree with you and I cannot believe those other comments.
Luke isn’t as culturally popular as Obi Wan, Anakin or Padme?
In what UNIVERSE is this true? Because it sure as hell isn’t anywhere I hang out. That person needs to go on Twitter and see people so excited if Mark Hamill makes any contact with them! Maybe in the circles they run in, but not in the wider universe. CF the reaction to that cameo.
Then I read the rest of it and I think “what OT did that person watch” and I give up. When you start telling me that Luke made a dumb decision in Empire (if he doesn’t make that decision, he’s not a hero) or that he’s overpowered and not interesting in Jedi, you’re telling me that you don’t get Star Wars at all. If you’re also telling me that Han and Leia have the more interesting story in Jedi, where most if not all Han and Leia fans will tell you they got the absolute shaft storywise?
I give up.
(edited to add - “we grew up” is THE MOST INFURIATING THING. I hate it with the fire of a thousand suns (or nuns, as we used to say on Television Without Pity)
I think it’s probably true that many younger fans who grew up on the prequels like Anakin and Padme and Obi-Wan a lot but to suggest that any of those characters are more “culturally popular” than any of the original characters is lunacy. Luke Skywalker is probably the most iconic fictional character in history.
Beyond the fact that younger fans have more love for the prequels and sequels and ignoring the character assassination in TLJ, I’d say the biggest reason Luke isn’t “more popular” is because he’s not “edgy” enough. Luke is good through and through, always tries to do what’s right, and is portrayed as a rather powerful foil to toxic masculinity. He DOES have some flaws, but none of his flaws are moral failings. In today’s society, where fascist murderer Kylo Ren is considered hot and misunderstood and darker shows featuring lots of betrayal, sex, and moral nihilism like Game of Thrones are all the rage, characters like Luke and for that matter stories like Star Wars (episodes 1-6) in which there is a distinct right and wrong and in which the hero is a Clark Kent type “good guy” aren’t in style.
Young men don’t want to see the hero toss his lightsaber aside and save the day through his *compassion.* They don’t relate to a hero whose strength is not primarily physical but spiritual, who is defined not by his ability to have an epic lightsaber duel but by his kindness and commitment to those around him. They want to watch action scenes, see the guy get the girl, and be a general badass. And as far as cishet women are concerned, in the age of 50 Shades of Grey and Reylo, the message of the media is that what’s attractive and sexy is dysfunction and abuse fueled by childhood trauma—the darker and broodier and more fucked up the man, the sexier he is.
So in short, Luke isn’t more “popular” right now because he’s not the toxic anti-hero that our society currently reveres. The original text above lists Luke’s decision to ignore Yoda and run off to confront Vader prematurely as his “dumbest mistake.” Whoever wrote that is incapable of understanding that Luke’s decision is evidence of the greatest triumphs of his character—his self-sacrifice, his bravery, his loyalty, his love for his friends. He didn’t defy Yoda because he was dumb and thought he could take Vader. He knew he couldn’t. He did it because Han and Leia were in danger and Luke loves them. THAT is the epitome of Luke’s heroism. Not badass lightsaber skills. Not incredible piloting. He’s the champion of the light side because he has a pure heart motivated by LOVE.
And that’s not “cool” these days.
“You think a princess, and a guy like me…?”
It has been brought to my attention that a HanLeia Discord server of which I am a part has been accused of being transphobic, homophobic, sexist, racist, and anti-feminist. It has also been alleged that the moderators of the chat have a “policy” which forbids the expression of pro-trans views or political views of any kind, that the members are “bigots,” and that gay members are not allowed to discuss gay relationships because it makes other members “uncomfortable”.
I wish to make it clear that every single one of these allegations is baseless, unfounded, and 100% untrue. The assertion that political discussion is banned from the server is blatantly false. To the contrary, there is an entire channel on the server devoted to political discussion, and I have NEVER witnessed transphobic, homophobic, racist, sexist, or anti-feminist remarks made by any member. I have never witnessed discrimination on this Discord server. I have never seen anyone “silenced” for expressing pro-trans views, nor was anyone ever told to refrain from discussing a relationship on the grounds that it was a homosexual relationship.
I consider these accusations to be extremely serious and I wish to make it clear that I would not tolerate, condone, or participate in transphobic, homophobic, racist, sexist, or anti-feminist rhetoric of any kind, nor would I associate with individuals who espouse such beliefs.
I do not speak on the behalf of the moderators or the other members. I speak only for myself, but I am willing to personally vouch for the high characters of my fellow members, who I know to be actively ANTI-racist, pro-trans rights, pro-gay rights, pro-HUMAN rights, pro-science, and STAUNCHLY feminist, and I have NEVER witnessed any discussion—political or otherwise—to give me reason to doubt that.
Other members of the chat would likely prefer to ignore these allegations for what they are—which is utter slander—in the interest of avoiding needless drama, but I refuse to allow my character to be maligned, and I will not allow these lies to circulate unchallenged.
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George Lucas directing Peter Mayhew, Mark Hamill, and Harrison Ford - A New Hope
“And here is what Leia does, when you force her into a scanty outfit and choke-chain: she takes that chain, and she kills you with it.” [x]