The List (Currently out of date; we recommend you use this if you're looking for newer stuff.)
Note: The List is going to be revamped. Standards of evidence are going to be tightened up and we will be distinguishing between Possible, Likely, and Verified scammers/etc.
Chickensmoothie (CS) doesn't allow any kind of negativity, blacklist, etc that would help the community protect itself from scammers. This blog was created so we could collect and share evidence of scamming or other bad trading practices. That way, users can decide for themselves if they want to block or avoid people who are known for scamming, even if they haven't been scammed by them yet.
You can submit evidence of scams, ninja trades, or other bad trades here. Make sure to read the rules on the page. You should not send evidence via ask as we may just post it as-is without censoring.
You can't send submissions anonymously or without an account. If you don't have one, just make a burner.
FAQ
Who runs the blog?
Currently only Mod P (playing since 2012). Mod L was a previous mod who you may see mentioned or tagged. It's unlikely that we will add new mods but you're more than welcome to contribute as much research of your own as you want and we can credit you for that if you'd like.
What are the numbers in post titles?
That's the user ID. Players can change their username easily on CS and scammers often change after they've been publicly outed in order to avoid being recognised. However, the user ID remains the same.
Why do you censor everything?
Interacting with blogs like ours can get you banned on CS. In order to protect scam victims, we censor all identifiable information, including the exact date, contents, and message within trades - a scammer could use these things to trace the original trade and report the victim for sending us evidence.
How does censoring work?
We replace everything relevant with close equivalents. For example, if someone tried to steal 10MA from you and offered 2MA, we might label your side as "around 8MA" and their side as "at least 1.5MA"; if the trade involves a Sunback, we might just say "a 2008 OMGSR". We try to stay as close as possible without being too exact.
In cases where information is replaced, it's always replaced with something that is proportionally or contextually the same. For example, if a trade was 1MA on their end and 2MA on your end, we wouldn't label it 2MA for 10MA, because that would be a very significant change in the proportions and it no longer accurately represents the disparity between both sides.
What do you consider worth posting?
We intend to post scammers and ninjas primarily, as well as people who multiaccount (which is cheating). We will be more vigorous if we believe there is lots of solid evidence but we do still post people who seem to have circumstantial evidence against them, with the caveat that the evidence is only circumstancial. This is typically found around December 18th when old, rare pets are rereleased; scammers hunt for new users who don't understand the game and steal their pets around this time, so it's easy to find these people and cross-check what they have with who they took it from.
We will also name and shame people who hoard excessive wealth sometimes, although they're not likely to get their own evidence posts as most people already know who they are and it's not something you can measure very "objectively".
We haven't really done so yet but we would also post people for whom there is evidence of things like art theft, not paying artists, blatant and repeated UMA foddering, or selling UMAs/CS pets for real life currency, which is not allowed.
Additionally, you're free to report people for things like bigotry, grooming or predatory behaviours, or repeated and overt rudeness, although we will be picky about that last one.
I'm on here and your evidence is faulty, what do I do?
Send in an ask or a submission off-anon. You can use a burner blog if you like. We don't post these - we take the information you give us and if it's valid, we post a retraction and remove you from the list.
Make sure you read the submission rules first. Those rules still apply.
What are the useful tags?
#evidence for any posts that show solid or potential proof, #ask for asks and #submission for submissions, #reblog for the rare times we share posts directly from places like salty-cs, and #commentary for general talking. We also sometimes use #update if we've just updated the list or if anything else significant has changed.
Additionally, we usually tag posts about users with their CS usernames. If these usernames change after they're first posted, however, we may continue using their initial tag(s).
Why run this blog?
I just don't like scamming. CS can be a lot of fun but it's horribly neglected by its staff and the on-site economy is in shambles. I wanted to give the community a chance to find out who's cheating and scamming before either getting scammed or just contributing to the collections of scammers, even if fairly.
Why are some of the posts so long?
I'm a very wordy person unfortunately, so that will just be the case regardless. I'm also autistic and talk very formally. I also want to be very clear about all the evidence and be honest when there are alternative explanations, so that does take more words than just saying "X is a scammer". I usually summarise everything at the bottom of a given post if you're not interested in the details.
Too much time on your hands lmao
I'm disabled and work from home, but thanks.
with kouyawolf coming to defend themselves, i may as well share a scam trade i got from them a while back (still after december 2025 as you can see). i'm disappointed in this one, since the dog plushies are very well-known to be valuable items, so i don't see an excuse for not knowing their value.
https://ibb.co/vx6dVxTM
I'm posting this but there's no trade link so I can't verify this is a real trade. Take it with a pinch of salt.
If it's true, this would be a few days before the animal egg trade. I believe this is when kouyawolf did have the script and know about the valuable item list, although again their explanation is that they are often on a different computer without the script.
twin don’t listen to the haters, otter is an ableist trumpie and lizard has no life. you’re prolly right about lizard and otter being the two people constantly sending in asks lmfaooooooo, gen how embarrassing dude like I would sob if I was that fucking weird — keep doing your thing, your blog has seriously helped me in learning who to steer clear from.
Thanks. Don't worry though, regardless of who is lashing out it won't change anything. I'm actually just finding it fun to watch, I could never have dreamed I would piss scammers off this much.
a blog dedicated to highlighting bad traders is a pretty good idea. if only it wasn't being run by petty people who are too focused on people underpaying for rats and screaming for weeks on end about personal grudges the mods have against users lol be so serious. at this rate i am about to make my own blog actually collecting evidence on bad trades like a normal person
Thanks for all the info, if you could send screenshots from the web archive links that would be great, my ISP blocks it and I haven't been bothered to get a VPN yet. Also you should make a throwaway if you haven't already so it's easier to contact you.
You're a fucking loser. its even funnier you some disabled fuck that can't do shit but say thebsame shit we've all read before. bet you smell like ass and blame "mental health" for not showering. Get a real job and go join the work force rather then being a sad pathetic excuse of a person.
Hmm. otter is extremely angry that I called her out I think.
I won't make a habit of posting this hate stuff, it literally serves no purpose besides giving these weirdos attention, but I do find this incredibly funny. It has literally all just been "fuck your disabilities go get a job", lol.
Thank you for your post and remaining honest and impartial in it and i'm happy with that I was at least heard out- ultimately I didn't have any excuses for some reasons but it was important to me that I do what share what I did know. Though our definitions differ this is your blog and you did include everything I ranted about so I have no issues with your final decision. Thank you.
Thank you for reaching out and explaining everything so thoroughly. Unless anyone else has more evidence, I have no reason to think that you're a "full-on" scammer, I just can't reconcile your explanations fully with the evidence so I don't consider it 100% solved. But when I get around to updating the list I will be moving you from Verified scammers at least, I don't think there's enough evidence for that. (Nor for some other people on there probably, which is why I need to update everything and change some of the ways evidence is evaluated.)
Do not contact anyone involved. Do not harass kouyawolf.
After a neutral party talked with kouyawolf about the recent claims about them, kouyawolf made a tumblr account and contacted us to respond to the claims against them and provide evidence they believe helps to clear their name.
I asked kouyawolf about some discrepancies or details in the submissions we received about them, as well as about the original animal egg trade, and they responded to each thing I brought up. Regardless of anything else, I appreciate that they chose to talk to me and provide evidence when asked.
I will be attaching screenshots of the entire conversation. However, to address everything fully, I still need to go over things and will summarise in the text. You should be able to fully understand kouyawolf's response and my reaction to it without reading the screenshots, if you choose to do so. This will be another long post.
Summary of the initial evidence
*Note: any time 'valuable items' are mentioned, unless otherwise stated, it is specifically used to refer to items on the valuable items list.
kouyawolf spoke in one of the CS Discords about a trade in which they severely underpaid for a very valuable item, the animal egg 2, which can go for 60MA. The screenshots of this initial conversation can be found in this post. After this was mentioned, two separate people submitted evidence of dodgy trade attempts from kouyawolf, referred to as trade #1 and trade #2 in our conversation above.
It's tricky explaining exactly what the contents of the trade are without giving details; I don't believe that kouyawolf is malicious, but I can't just give people the trade links or the contents just in case. To summarise, this is the crucial information regarding the submitted evidence:
In trade #1, made in late December 2025, kouyawolf tried to trade a few non-valuable, non-old items for a couple of hoard items and three valuable items. Two of the valuable items are from the DIY cake set, including an icing. In this instance, kouyawolf was told by the other trader that two of the items are valuable. kouyawolf attempted the trade a second time but removed the third valuable item. At the time of posting the trade, both ourselves and the submitter considered this to be a reasonable indication that kouyawolf probably knew the third item's value, otherwise there was no reason for them to remove it.
In trade #2, made in mid-January 2026, after the animal egg trade, kouyawolf tried to take another item from the cake set, alongside hoard items, in exchange for two uncommons from 2014 onwards. Again, this trader tells kouyawolf that the cake set item is valuable. kouyawolf responds by saying that they believe/d the item was only worth an uncommon of its year. However, kouyawolf adds two more assorted uncommons to the trade rather than cancelling or trying to trade fairly. In this case, the screenshot of the original trade message is lost (if the original person who submitted it wants to send it again, that would be great); I can't confirm whether this was framed by kouyawolf as a statement or a question, but both ourselves and the submitted considered it to be "pushing back" against the item being valuable at the time.
Both of these trades, when submitted, came from different users. We verified that both were genuine trades via the trade links, and both submitters supplied screenshots of the trade messages at the time.
kouyawolf's response: general context
kouyawolf claims that although they do have the script on their main computer, they cannot access it while away from home via other computers or their phone, and they are frequently away. This does make sense, and while it's not something we can technically prove or disprove, I have no reason to doubt them on this.
They also mention that although they have been on the site since 2014, they have not been active for large stretches of that; they specifically state that they left in 2018 and returned in 2022 for a short time, then didn't come back again fully until 2025. Their posting history does seem to back this up, and again, I have no reason to doubt this is true.
Having said that, kouyawolf has an incredibly extensive collection of pets and items. As they say, they're a completionist, so they clearly have been trading regularly on-site - enough to know some basics. kouyawolf specifically states that they get confused on conversion and comparison between MA/Non and C$, which again is fair and I'm not necessarily doubting it, but it's not proveable one way or another.
While I don't necessarily expect them to have caught up on significant changes if they were largely inactive since 2018, they did seemingly return to the site fully in late July 2025, when they started bumping their trade thread again regularly.
By early December 2025, before all three of the trades we've gone over, kouyawolf indicates that they're aware that valuable items exist as a thing with separate worth to normal items (as in, not everything is worth uncommon of its year).
I believe all of this is relevant context. In my mind, this sort of thing helps to infer that kouyawolf is not quite as unfamiliar with values as they are claiming. However, that's just my opinion on this.
kouyawolf's response: the animal egg trade
kouyawolf provides evidence that the victim in the animal egg trade, S, is accepting a "payment plan" in which kouyawolf gradually gifts back pets equal to half the value of the animal egg (30MA). They show a DM in which S seems to agree with this, as well as a long section of their trade history, showing all the trades with this person, all of which are gifts. They also claim that they offered S the egg back, and that S let kouyawolf keep it.
(In the screenshots, I was busy during this period and asked kouyawolf for evidence of the agreement later on in the conversation, but they did actually provide evidence earlier. I do consider there to be sufficient evidence of S accepting this arrangement.)
In this instance, I do believe that kouyawolf is trying to make up for this, but they are only paying back half the value, and they are doing so mostly in assorted recent and low-value pets on S's wishlist, rather than sending pets of higher value. Ultimately, if S is happy with the arrangement, then we can consider it "solved", but it does not absolve kouyawolf of responsibility if they were intentionally trying to steal.
However,
in kouyawolf's initial messages in the Discord, they acknowledge that they have the script, but state that it doesn't tell you the item's value, and doesn't say it's valuable until the trade has already been sent. They do acknowledge that there is a star shown beside valuable items before the trade is sent, however.
An example here:
Even if the item's value is not described, and even if you somehow miss the star before sending the trade, you're shown a link to the valuable items guide immediately afterwards if you have the script installed. You can always cancel if you realise you've sent a bad trade.
kouyawolf admits in the Discord messages at the time that they do have the script available, that they know it shows stars besides valuable items, and even implies that they specifically did see it on the animal egg. However, their excuse is that they "didn't know how valuable it actually was". Personally, I struggle to see how they were unaware of the value of the egg at the time of trading. This isn't a concrete claim; I just can't really understand how that would make sense given all of this context.
kouyawolf's response: trade #1
I asked kouyawolf to address the following points in my first response:
Are you saying that you weren't aware of the value of the DIY cake set at the end of December 2025?
What was your reasoning for thinking the offer was fair?
For question 1, kouyawolf claims that they were not aware that the cake set included items other than the cake and icing, and that they didn't even know a valuable items list existed until they joined the CSDS Discord in November 2025.
For question 2, kouyawolf explains that they simply tried to trade wishlist for wishlist as they were unaware the items were valuable.
However, as we've established, kouyawolf likely did already know that the valuable items list existed and had the script installed by late December, and trade #1 did contain an icing item.
When I mention this to kouyawolf, they say they're not really sure why they sent a bad trade and don't have an excuse, but they were not trying to scam.
kouyawolf's response: trade #2
Again, I asked kouyawolf to address the following points:
If you believed the cake set item in this trade was only worth an uncommon, why did you not offer a 2011 (or even 2012) uncommon
Do you have any explanation for this trade, when it was definitely after the animal egg trade and when you definitely had the script, knew the valuables items list existed, etc?
For question 1, kouyawolf again says that they can't really explain why they sent a bad trade, only that they didn't have intent to scam and don't believe this should count as scamming.
For question 2, kouyawolf basically repeats the same thing, but also mentions that this trade must have been sent when they were on a different computer without access to the script.
I pushed back on this, given that kouyawolf had already been through the animal egg incident about a week prior and should have been more careful. I also point out again that kouyawolf reiterated that they thought items were only worth an uncommon of their year after the other person in trade #2 explicitly told them that the cake set item they asked for was valuable. Even if kouyawolf was trying to say this as a question, not a statement, they didn't cancel the trade or edit to make it fair, they just added a couple more uncommons to the trade. in my mind, it's hard to see this as unintentional.
kouyawolf states that they likely meant it as a question as they don't believe they would have made a statement, but otherwise again, they don't necessarily have an explanation, just that they did not and do not attempt to scam people.
More general points
A few other things that kouyawolf mentioned throughout that I thought were worth addressing in the original conversation and here:
"Why would I share the trade to the Discord if I were a scammer?"
Unfortunately scammers on CS seem to enjoy bragging about and showing off their scams, although admittedly they usually do that anonymously. However, theoretically it could just be that you wanted to "show off" a very good trade under the belief that people wouldn't recognise that it was likely "too good to be true" and would question if you had scammed people. Yes, it did come back to bite you, but it's not unreasonable to assume that you didn't expect that could happen when you shared it. I don't believe this is the case, it's just a theoretical possibility.
"These are only item trades, no one has accused me of scamming pets."
Items are not back-traceable to their original owners, which makes it impossible to tell if they came from new users or to check if the victim has received fair payment. Again, not accusing kouyawolf of doing this intentionally, simply pointing out that it's possible to do items only for this reason; there are other users, like catparty, who seem to only scam items but who do so very obviously and repeatedly.
"To me, a scammer is only someone who intentionally scams everyone all the time, so I don't think I should be called a scammer."
This seems to be a strange thing amongst CS users that scamming should only matter if it's extremely severe. I can't think of any other game-based community that would have a "minimum threshold" for when stealing and cheating suddenly becomes unacceptable.
I do understand what you're saying here, but I don't agree and that's not how we've run the blog so far. You can be a scammer and only scam once or twice; you may not be as bad as others, but if you're stealing, you may be posted here.
Summary and thoughts
Ultimately, kouyawolf's response does show that they are trying to make up to the animal egg victim. They do put forward some reasonable explanations, such as a lack of script availability on some devices. It's also true that it appears they have been largely inactive for some periods of time; I don't think it's unreasonable for them not to know everything when they come back.
Having said that, I do still want to point out that this does not exonerate kouyawolf from sending the bad trades, it only offers possible and unproveable explanations as to why they might have done so, besides scamming.
I've said this many times and I'll say it again, but if you want to trade fairly and honestly, then you need to do your due diligence and be careful. There is nothing stopping you from checking the join date of users you trade with, from disclosing that you use personal values, that you don't know guides, or that you're offering underpay and the other person should check the FTT. There is literally nothing stopping you from waiting to send a trade until you get home if you know you can't use the script and you need it, nor is there anything stopping you from saving a link to the values guide or bookmarking horror's list and checking those manually before you send a trade.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with trying to get a good deal, but if the other person doesn't know the real values involved in a trade, then you're just taking advantage of someone who doesn't know any better. They can't make an educated decision on whether or not they want to give you something for underpay - and many people will work things out with you, but you have to be honest about what you're offering and what you're asking for!
My personal opinion of this is that while kouyawolf may not be an egregious scammer, they are probably still sending underpay without properly disclosing that, at least some of the time, in the hopes that the other person accepts because they don't know their values. I do appreciate that kouyawolf seems to be trying to make it up to S. I don't think that kouyawolf is necessarily maliciously scamming people and I don't think they're doing it repeatedly, with the evidence we have at the moment. However, I still can't personally understand why you would send trades #1 and #2 without there being some intent behind it.
It's on the backburner that I need to go into the list and move some things around. I will probably reorganise the list into Verified, Likely, and Possible scammers, so there can be better distinguishing between the levels/amount of evidence we have. In that system, I'd probably put kouyawolf into Possible unless/until any more information came in.
i kinda want to know what himarry 124’s deal is regardless of whether they’re scamming or not, i honestly think they’re just constantly online
I know they've been mentioned a few times on the saltblog.
From what I've seen, they seem to play the game pretty unpredictably. I think maybe they've been around for long enough (or just got bored) that they just started doing random things for the sake of it. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they had either a full or a very large collection and they just emptied out so they could try and trade up to wealth again completely from scratch to prove it was possible. Sometimes they trade their valuable pets for way below their actual value because they want something specific, maybe as part of their experiments.
Obviously if anyone has any dodgy trades they're welcome to send them in. If there's no indication they've been scamming, I would guess they're just a little random.
I'm busy again at the moment and as I'm now solo here it's taking longer to check submissions and make posts. If you've sent anything in recently, rest assured I'll get to it when I can and (if you're not anon) I'll contact you if I need to clarify anything.
Since this did come up in a recent submission or two: yes, you can (and should) send evidence you have for people who have already been mentioned on the blog. The best way to prove someone is definitely scamming is to have actual trade links from victims.
Additionally, although I mentioned in the pinned post it's unlikely I'd ever take on a new mod, I'm technically considering it. At the very least if anyone wanted to help with research gathering, that would be great. I'm very cautious after Mod L's outburst about letting anyone do the write-ups, but if anyone has the free time and wants to help out, I guess you can send in a submission and let us know what you want to do or something. I do currently have quite a few people I'm trying to research and that's going very slowly with just me.
I don't believe that otter had another account. A anon claimed they knew otter had another account but all the "proof" they had wasn't really solid. Anon claimed they knew a group that "hacked" all her personal info. They also claimed some random ass art account was otters but there was no evidence to back it up. Its some dumb kid wanting attention. Then when asked for more information they went silent. I think it was a weird attempt to take the heat off of someone else at the time. There was a few names I'm heavy rotation and I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of them.
So, this one is actually quite interesting to me. I did get an ask from supposedly the anon who "exposed" this with an explanation, and from what I can see it does check out. I have a draft with more on otter's many potential aliases and tumblr accounts but I'll add a bit here because I think it's interesting.
There was an account (now banned) with the current username Howl's Moving Castle (985794). A fun way to track people's past usernames is quotes, because these don't usually update when someone changes. If someone quotes themselves in their trade thread and doesn't clear their posts, you can usually find them all there.
The HMC account does have an extensive trade thread, and that account has gone through a really crazy amount of usernames; I skimmed and I found, from newest to oldest, Green Goblin, La Quack, Lowfiwaves, Hufflepuffgirl, The cat returns, Juice WRLD, Dry Bones, Cherry Candy, Dr. Teals, Crash Bandicoot, Ginger Tea, Khai Dreams, Corgislove, and NightShiftGmoey. A few of these (namely Dry Bones, Hufflepuffgirl, and Green Goblin) have been mentioned on the old saltblog - they also had a reputation for being a notorious scammer.
The accusation from this anon was that one of the alternative saltblogs, csteasippers, was run by otter; their evidence was that csteasippers seemingly forgot to switch accounts one time while responding to a post about a DIFFERENT blog, notreallycs, signing off a post as "cherry". As you can see, Cherry Candy is a past username of HMC and the same user ID is shared in this ask.
I'm not saying it's 100% proven, but here is my reasoning for believing that otter is HMC and csteasippers and notreallycs:
Consistent typing patterns across the HMC account, csteasippers, notreallycs, and otter's current account, as well as the tessgirly blog that was trying to convince people not to report otter a few months back.
otter's current CS account was created within 2 months after the HMC account was banned.
otter is well-known for vocally disliking Horror's Guide and other established guides and lists; the HMC account tried making an alternative item valuing system at one point because they didn't like the valuable items list, and the csteasippers account was one of several of these assorted alts posting very serious claims about the creators of the guides.
otter is also known to change usernames as soon as she gets called out, which is why the HMC account has so many past usernames.
I believe the original anon also said something about the HMC account organising and naming their pet groups identically to otter's, although otter changed them when the anon mentioned this. However, I don't have any evidence of that right now and I may have misunderstood that comment.
Anyway, that's all I'll post about it for now. Like I said, it definitely isn't proven, but I do think this is a very strong indicator. I'm way too curious about otter, so I've well and truly fallen down the rabbit hole.
i'm sending in anonymously even though you can obvious tell who i am from my id, but it's interesting that they were trying to scalp items, especially a permanent store item, even back in 2022....
It's not very dramatic, but it is odd. It reminds me of my dad selling things on Facebook marketplace - he'll sell a pair of brand new shoes for £5 just because he wants them gone and someone will still ask if he can do it for £2.50. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting a good deal, but you have to communicate that. A lot of the time if you aren't saying anything about it, it's because you're hoping the other person doesn't know they're being lowballed.
