The Night Manager S2 E6
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The Night Manager S2 E6
About griffin lovell
griffin didn’t have a mom he could remember. Even though lovell’s behavior towards either boys was probably the same until the age they went to oxford, griffin lacked the memories of a period before lovell and before england. All he ever knew was that house in Hampstead, that room with the same books robin later read. He didn’t even have a miss piper . He says that the housekeeper lovvel had in his time was a cold cruel woman, when miss was the closest thing Robin had to a mother after leaving Canton. It is certain that after being accepted at Babel lovell’s attitude towards Griffin and Robin differed. Lovell never loved Robin, never saw him as a person worthy of love or respect because of his lineage but he did find him useful. Every moment where Robin felt remotely accepted by his father or equal to him in conversation towards the beginning of the book it was because of his growing usefulness to him. Griffin, the one who cannot dream in chinese and never could, was never loved & respected for the same reasons as Robin but he was never also of use. He was just a burden. I imagine lovell viewed him as a defective tool. He was never trying to even pretend he cared for Robin so I cant imagine how he treated Griffin. Even without saying a word, the disinterest towards him, the resentment for his inadequacy would be evident. I think that if the ties between griffin and lovell weren’t so evident, the professor would have sent him away before he had the chance to leave on his own. I keep thinking about the note rf kuang wrote at the end of the chapter where griffin dies. That griffin and his cohort were as close as robin’s were, or they thought they were at least. How oxford was the first place griffin felt like home at least until his lack of talent for silver working appeared. How even in hiding so many years later after everything fell apart, consciously or not he organized his safe house as his room in Magpie lane. The only place griffin felt like home was a place where even there, he never really belonged, but the only thing he could do thereafter was to return to it. In memory, by asking robin to say everything he experienced in detail or physically when he left him messages. He could’ve chosen any other place to inform Robin of their next move, a safer place not so close to the university but he did not. He wanted to go back to glimpse even through a closed window his old room. Griffin could never be happy or satisfied, even if he had seen and made Babel fall, because precisely Babel was the place where he felt content, where he felt less alone. Babel the place he never managed to leave behind and his home was at the same time the constitution he sacrificed everything to destroy. He was a man torn apart, an angry man who would rather be angry than accept that really he is sad, sad that everything he wanted to hold on to was never there really in the first place, never for him. He had nothing. Not even his name. He probably wasn’t even named when lovell took him. He has nothing of his. He holds onto nothing and nothing ever tries to hold on to him. Not until he dies. Where Robin for all his admiration, resentment, jealousy, frustration and love for his older brother cannot leave him. Griffin and that did strike me as odd as I read the chapter tells him again and again to leave him, to go, to stop trying to save him. I thought it was odd because when griffin never had anyone stay with him, by him, wouldn’t he be glad that at last someone stayed with him, and it was his little better brother, he wouldn’t die alone. But I don’t think griffin was that kind of person. I think that he was the kind of person that averted from, and was suspicious of, everything that was foreign to him even if it was what he desired most. He was like a beaten dog that couldn’t distinguish a threat from a caring touch so he flinched away from both. This is also shown when robin offers to buy him a warmer coat. He snaps at him offended. He bites.
What also made an impression on me on that note, was that Sterling Jones and Griffin had quarreled over the same girl, over Evie. I didn’t expect for griffin for all his daring in matters of politics and rebellion , to have the courage to hope he got the girl enough to fight about it. Not with a rich, white blond blue eyed man with a big name as an opponent. If not anything else regarding feeling griffin appeared at least, as a total cynic. Robin again and again observes how griffin had no spare compassion to give much like their father. Even when robin tells him that anthony died not much emotion shows on his face. He just faltered for just a second. Griffin’s behavior I don’t think can be explained by a lack of emotion. I do not believe it. I think that griffin had learned especially after killing evie how alone he really was. That sense of loneliness along with the remembrance of what he did, hardened him, I believe for good. He was a fugitive from that moment on and he never stopped running, even when no one was at his door he never stopped. I think he had an innate need to escape stemming from his guilt and his bitterness. I believe anthony was his only real friend. Cocious in nature maybe back then he didn’t manage to help griffin but I believe he was the only person that despite their differences, saw throught to griffin. Saw through his rage and harshness to his grief. I think that if griffin had the time to process anthony’s death he would have been privately crashed. I don’t know how much he would feel it, his heart being hollow for years and resisting of feeling like burned hands that cannot sense anything they touch, their nerve ending destroyed.
Another thing that made me very sad was that griffin after murdering evie, was maybe even more terrified than griffin. Maybe he was a resistant child but he was not accustomed to violence. He didn’t mean to do it especially to her. RF kuanf wrote that unlike robin, griffin did not have his cohort to steady him after. I can only imagine that griffin similarly to robin was haunted by guilt almost maddened. The only reason robin didn’t surrender to the police and didn’t lose his mind was rammy. So imagine someone being all alone. I think that griffin must have been horrified and appalled at that moment. Feeling that no doubt showed at the face of his friends, sterling & anthony. I think maybe that broke him. It is another thing to be hated by ones self and entirely another for your ugliness to be evident for your loved one to see. I think maybe then he pleaded, then he got defensive. This mechanism of defense he would never shake. As rf kuang writes he wore this brand of violence like a coat. I think he was so scared with what he did and was feeling that he adopted this angry, bloodthirsty persona. It was better to convince himself all was done on purpose than crumble under the weight of it.
I don’t believe that griffin didn’t care. I think he would’ve died for all of them. And I think he loved robin as much as he could. I think he cared of his opinion of him, I think he longed to be accepted by him. I think he wanted him to be good, I think he wanted him on his side for once. When robin got shot and confronted griffin about it, to me it was evident that he felt guilty about it even if he tried to shrug it off. I think maybe he was one of those people that cant bear to look in the eye one more thing they did wrong,they failed at and that was protecting his little brother. I think how his last act of love, and life, was to eventually save robin.
I remember them at christmas time when griffin was freezing, when he looked even thinner than before, beaten and bruised. I don’t think he ever had much money maybe he didn’t eat for days. But as haggard as was his appearance I remember when he got the present out of his coat. How he gave it to robin sounding like he wanted to avoid sentiments but still wanting to know and to see if robin liked it. That is one of my favourite scenes in the book. I think it is indicative of an alternative reality, where life was softer and faired. I think they would have been friends there.
Also the aspect of griffin’s deteriorating health really pained me. Because along with eventually robin he was my favourite character I always anticipated the next chapter he’d appear. So every time this happened initially I would rejoice but not for long. Then I would proceed to reading rf kuang’s descriptions of him. He never looked better always worse. Thinner, hungrier, more desperate, more bloodied or bruised more paranoid. Besides the terrible mental pain he must have endured I wanted if I could to alleviate the physical also. I had the feeling that it wasn’t fair after everything he should have been left alone he should’ve come to no more harm. But of course that is not how the story goes. I must harbor an internal belief that those who have endured struggles in their lives should be spared by the limitations and ailments of the flesh. I wish it could be so.
Another tragedy about him is the fact that after listening to robin speak mandarin he was capable after all these years to achieve silver working quite successfully. With lovell as a tutor a not-native speaker, he never could. That made me think that if younger robin had a native tutor like Chakravarti he could have done this earlier. I don’t think much would’ve changed. I just think that maybe griffin would’ve been spared a little of his father’s feelings of dissapointmet, a little of his anger and feeling of inadequacy.
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going to the griffin tag and seeing that there r other people who hyperfixated on him too like fuck yeah this tragic side character is unironically the best part of the book. he’s got that golden child/black sheep complex, daddy issues galore, broken relationships that haunt him and possible friendships that never came into existence. also has the most banger lines in the novel. oh yeah nearly forgot the most important part: has a cool long black coat.
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babel rf kuang cuts pretty deep doesn’t it
The fact that Babel portrayed Griffin as somewhat less academically capable (thus supposedly less smart) but everytime he opens his mouth he sounds so intelectual and articulate is just so attractive.
His level of independent thought and debate makes him sound the most intelligent to me + the street smarts too.
I would straight up cry if I had to debate or argue with Griffi. He would make an amazing lawyer, he was just in the "wrong" major
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(Scratch that, you always need some Loki)
Wow. Two years since the Loki series finale.
Sometimes the right art at the right time can completely transform someone’s life. The Loki series did that for me, partly in ways I won’t get into on this blog — but, long story short, that finale left my mind reeling and led me to an unexpected but very beneficial new road. I’m in a MUCH better place than I was two years ago, and I am so grateful to Tom Hiddleston and the entire creative team and cast of that series. They could have “phoned it in” and delivered some run-of-the-mill MCU fare, but they didn’t. They took the opportunity to use that particular storytelling medium to push the boundaries and they trusted the audience to follow a very deep, very complex, multi-layered story.
For me, at least, it was literally a life-changing experience.
Because there is something so utterly precious about Griffin Lovell/Harley. Like this boy probably did everything he could and was not able to satisfy his mentor/father despite it all for something that wasn't even his fault. Something that probably tore at his insides because despite being raised in an English and Hindi surrounded area, I am still Telugu and I can't think of not knowing it. And yet, I don't dream in it like my father does and that really makes me feel like an absolute outsider in my own house so imagine being Griffin.
Imagine being taken from ur motherland for something and then not being able to accomplish so you don't really belong to where u were taken but also don't belong to ur motherland because u were taken too early. And imagine when he realised this. Think of how much grief he had to deal with, he is lost. He has no shore, no anchor. And isn't that really a scary asf thought??
And maybe this ideology he shares with Hermes is his anchor? The only thing keeping him afloat? But imagine finding out u have a baby brother that prolly went thru all u did but turned out successful while u were just a failed demo? Imagine how shitty that must have felt?
(only on pg 254 as of now y'all)
I witnessed Robin's descent to corruption. It began with Ramy's death, and became cemented with Griffin's.
At first, there was still room for doubt. That he only witnessed the violence the Empire and the World have to offer, so in order to get Heard, he needed to speak their language - violence. And then he became cruel, he hoped they would be forced to commit attrocities. I think his cruelty peaked when he quoted Caligula. Like amongst everyone, Caligula ??
The only light he found AT the end of the tunnel IS death. Nothingness.
This child used to be so kind, prompt to Always choose peace. Despite his father's brutality, despite his brother's Desperate violence, he chose to be kind. Yet he witnessed the suffering of the oppressed, and has everyone hé loved ripped from him till he lost this softness and went for self-destruction.
Victoire, his only family left couldn't keep him alive, afloat.
I grieve for you young boy. I grieve for you Robin Swift, Ramy Mirza, Victoire Desgraves, Griffin Lovell, Anthony.
A Witch Hat Atelier crossover for the Lovell brothers!
He went back to his first morning in Oxford: climbing a sunny hill with Ramy, picnic basket in hand. Elderflower cordial. Warm brioche, sharp cheese, a chocolate tart for dessert. The air that day smelled like a promise, all of Oxford shone like an illumination, and he was falling in love.
“Words tell stories. Specifically, the history of those words - how they came into use, and how their meaning morphed into what they mean today - tell us just as much about a people, if not more, than any other kind of historical artefact.”
― R.F. Kuang, Babel: An Arcane History
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this is a bit of an odd question but do you believe there was something yaoi going on btwn sterling and griffin??😭😭 or something along those lines. i personally don’t know how i’d feel about it but maybe there’s some allusions to it i missed out on..either way, i like thinking about griffin’s life before everything so i want to know what you think their relationship was! (i asked bc i came across a discussion btwn you and another person on twitter about how their relationship radicalized griffin and i wanted to hear more of your thoughts on that if you liked..)
this is the funniest way to phrase this anon im dyinggggg ummmm yes and no? i don’t think they were ever together i just read griffin as bi and i think his friendship + betrayal with sterling can be read as a classic first unhealthy homoerotic obsession on griffin’s part. i enjoy dynamics like that a lot so this section in the book made my radar ping i was so ???!?!?!?!?!!?!!
i think griffin snapped out of wishing he could fit in faster than robin did but i think a part of him would’ve still been taken by sterling’s privilege and “princely” demeanour as he’s described in the book LOL. and i feel like him being enamoured with sterling when they first meet and then slowly realising how actually awful he was over the years would’ve played a part in griffin’s disillusionment of babel and just personally adds another interesting layer to griffin/his cohort’s dynamic to me. like im theorising but i feel like it makes sense that anthony wouldn’t have been fooled, while griffin’s proximity to whiteness and privilege afforded him rose-tinted glasses and equal footing with sterling for a while, similar to robin.
and sterling clearly…. “reciprocates” is a terrible word to use in this context but like he’s clearly just as haunted by griffin, if not even more so. like the shooting scene obviously, where he doesn’t give a shit if he dies as long as he takes griffin down with him, but also this bit when he first meets robin
and then when he can’t help himself from retreading his arguments with griffin during his interrogation , comparing them constantly + using the chinese metaphor of badgers from the same mound, etc. griffin reaches this point where imo sterling is a constant reminder of his faults and an awful and repeating obstacle to his goal of revolution, but still just an obstacle. whereas destroying griffin is sterling’s final goal. which i guess makes sterling bi in my head too but i care way less abt his racist ass so 😭 diversity loss this racist is bi etc etc
i think it’s fun and fitting if griffin was more obsessed (/pos) with sterling early in their relationship, while sterling grows more obsessed (/neg) with griffin towards the end. so like. yaoi is not the word i would use to describe the griffin sterling relationship but homoerotic definitely is 😭😭
(also bc i feel like i have to clarify sometimes, obviously sterling is horrendously repulsively racist and he and griffin’s dynamic is deeply unhealthy so this is not me “shipping” it as much as it is like. fleshing out griffin’s past and relationships in ways that i find interesting to his character.)
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Babel, by RF Kuang, is fun cause the first half is sad but also really sweet and hopeful and relatively low stakes and you’re like “aw this is nice, found family, thanks” and then suddenly it’s the most intense most emotionally heart wrenching book you’ve ever read in your life so that’s cool I guess.