Spiteful :]

My alt account I use to comment on situations when I don’t want my main involved. It’s the internet I can comment on Wtv I want !!!

[deadlyvengence]

why are some black butler fans on twitter encouraging a relationship between a real 14 year old and a real 20 year old? The 14 year old child talks about meeting up with his 20 year old boyfriend and anticipating getting ‘dicked down’ by him and this person’s mutuals, some of which are older are encouraging it. This 14 year old child is convinced that they are a real life child x adult ship from black butler, I’m not in the fandom but I think the ship is ceil x Sebastian?

The 14 year old posted this strawpage message he got and this is how his mutuals, who are in support of his relationship, reacted

You can’t even call this 14 year old ‘mature’💀 because there’s a lot of things he is unaware about. This is one thing he asked.

extra screenshots I thought were important

Last one is from their mutual’s account, their mutual is also in a relationship similar to theirs.

why is this allowed?

[deadlyvengence]

some people’s logic genuinely

”bitting isn’t even the worse thing people can do. (Holocaust)” part especially -_-

“Sending NSFW drawings to several underage people isn’t even the worse thing people can do. (Holocaust)”

[rimonoroni2]

my general opinion on what people should be "allowed" to portray and what topics they should be "allowed" to explore in fiction is that you can make whatever art with whatever themes you want but i'm also allowed to think the way you handled it was tasteless and should've been done differently. my negative opinion on your handling of sensitive topics is the price of admission for publicly showcasing your work. this is not a pro-censorship stance because i am not The Government

[guttergene]

Yes, people can make media about darker topics but they absolutely deserve criticize over the way they handle things. An example is, you're allowed to make books regarding rape but people are allowed to dislike you for handling it poorly or fetishizing it.

[rimonoroni2]

my general opinion on what people should be "allowed" to portray and what topics they should be "allowed" to explore in fiction is that you can make whatever art with whatever themes you want but i'm also allowed to think the way you handled it was tasteless and should've been done differently. my negative opinion on your handling of sensitive topics is the price of admission for publicly showcasing your work. this is not a pro-censorship stance because i am not The Government

[health-chronic-ass-iconic]

You can say whatever you want at the price of me also saying whatever I want

[rimonoroni2]

my general opinion on what people should be "allowed" to portray and what topics they should be "allowed" to explore in fiction is that you can make whatever art with whatever themes you want but i'm also allowed to think the way you handled it was tasteless and should've been done differently. my negative opinion on your handling of sensitive topics is the price of admission for publicly showcasing your work. this is not a pro-censorship stance because i am not The Government

[cryingprussian]

"I'm getting censored 😧" no you're getting criticised. those are different things.

[rimonoroni2]

my general opinion on what people should be "allowed" to portray and what topics they should be "allowed" to explore in fiction is that you can make whatever art with whatever themes you want but i'm also allowed to think the way you handled it was tasteless and should've been done differently. my negative opinion on your handling of sensitive topics is the price of admission for publicly showcasing your work. this is not a pro-censorship stance because i am not The Government

[rohirric-hunter]

I'm also allowed to talk about how the way you handled it was tasteless BTW. Don't love this new era of 'it's wrong to say anything bad about fanfiction ever' we're entering. This is also not a pro censorship stance unless I say it should be taken down or harass the author directly. Posting about it on my personal blog or in a private discord server does not constitute direct harassment

[rimonoroni2]

my general opinion on what people should be "allowed" to portray and what topics they should be "allowed" to explore in fiction is that you can make whatever art with whatever themes you want but i'm also allowed to think the way you handled it was tasteless and should've been done differently. my negative opinion on your handling of sensitive topics is the price of admission for publicly showcasing your work. this is not a pro-censorship stance because i am not The Government

[antlord325]

People are even allowed to go “that’s gross and I don’t want to interact with your art” and that does not make them horrible fascists

[rimonoroni2]

my general opinion on what people should be "allowed" to portray and what topics they should be "allowed" to explore in fiction is that you can make whatever art with whatever themes you want but i'm also allowed to think the way you handled it was tasteless and should've been done differently. my negative opinion on your handling of sensitive topics is the price of admission for publicly showcasing your work. this is not a pro-censorship stance because i am not The Government

[rimonoroni2]

this is getting really popular so i’d like to add the important caveat that your criticism of a work is no more unassailable than the work itself. just as one is entitled to be critical of something someone else is entitled to disagree with that criticism. i add this because some of you pretend to give a fuck about thoughtful analysis and then when someone points out flaws in your argument you declare that all criticisms are valid. this is untrue. the status of a hater is no more sacred than that of a liker. get off your high horse and engage in the thoughtful discussion you pretend to believe in or perish by my blade

[ilex-merciae]

[rimonoroni2]

my general opinion on what people should be "allowed" to portray and what topics they should be "allowed" to explore in fiction is that you can make whatever art with whatever themes you want but i'm also allowed to think the way you handled it was tasteless and should've been done differently. my negative opinion on your handling of sensitive topics is the price of admission for publicly showcasing your work. this is not a pro-censorship stance because i am not The Government

[deadlyvengence]

exactly right.

[sysblogforcavity]

"If RPF involving real minors was made illegal, the US government would use it to silence journalists telling stories about the children in palestine"

. . .

No? That's already happening, megan. How often do you see children in Palestine reported on? Imagine using an actual tragedy as a buzzword to try and persuade people to agree with you when there is literally NO correlation between making porn about real children and palestinian children fucking DYING from a ETHNIC CLEANSING. That's disgusting and actually so insensitive.

No one is trying to take away your stupid CP anyways, we're just calling you a cornball. For the love of GOD get off the internet and go find a real human person to say this shit to. I dare you. Like I'm so serious, you need to get out of whatever psychosis you're in where you think you're a reincarnated philosopher and have a human conversation and bring up real person fiction involving children being raped and its correlation to bombings. I dare you. Please do it.

You have this moral sense of grandiose that you try to get other people to agree with my bullshitting words out your mouth like "censorship" and talking about how us "westerners are out of touch". So are you pedaling the middle east (or your idealist homeland that you wanna go out and weeaboo out so badly) of Japan has consent laws and levels of CSA and violence against women under control? I already know you're talking about Japan. Everyone talks about Japan like that when they don't see it as a real country and as a real-life extension to anime and manga. People like you love objectifying Asia as a whole (while forgetting countries like Bangledesh, Yemen, Nepal). You see Japan and Asia as an extension as this utopia while simultaneously completely ignoring all of the real-life issues in the country. Yknow... the ones that actually affect people? Like how rape-culture is very prevalent in Japan.

I feel like this person is a perfect instance of what black people are talking about when they say white queers get WAY too comfortable distancing themselves from their whiteness. They were able to say that a little too easily and even doubled down. You're not a marginalized intellect against injustice.

You're a chud who wastes most of their day talking about fiction online while I haven't seen one post talking about ACTUAL issues in Palestine or even talking about how police brutality is being ACTUALLY censored. You're not anti-censorship, you don't give a fuck about the actual issues in the world and stop pretending like you do. You have the privilege to be sat up on the internet posting 29 videos in ONE day all about how desperately you want people to understand that the US Government is trying to take away your freedom of writing about minors being raped! 😱 (They're not. Get out of la-la land and open your fucking eyes.). You just want so badly that when you're criticized, you can have a higher moral standing in your eyes. You're not being oppressed by people disagreeing with you. You're not being silenced. You're being argued with and told you're wrong. It's a fucking thing that happens to regular people.

Come back to me when you discover what real systemic issues are and what real censoring looks like. But then again, I doubt you will ever understand or TRY to understand because you are a white AFAB living privileged in America. Just going leave it at that.

Yes, I am implying this person is a racist. I don't feel like it's a crazy take to say that when they're using a real life ethnic cleansing to justify their stupid argument. And regurgitating real talking point for black people for your agenda about things that literally don't matter.

Double small-text, that "megan" bit was a reference. I was not deadnaming them. I'm just not saying their name because I'll have a group of 4-chan "edgelords" jump me (their fans)

[deadlyvengence]

Just because someone doesn’t lewd fictional children, it doesn’t mean they’re incapable of being a predator in real life. I’m saying this because I don’t want people to be so gullible to believe otherwise.

There are people that will identify as an anti proship or lolisho, e.t.c. or share the beliefs of one to deflect from their real actions. I’m saying this as someone who is uncomfortable and dislikes lolishos , pro and darkshippers. I’m not saying that’s everyone who identifies as an anti or shares similar beliefs to one. There has been people like this too, since forever ago.

I do not want the lolishos , proshippers and whatever else, you know who you are, using this as a gotcha for antis =_= cus there’s been people identifying as such and using “fiction doesn’t equal reality.” while acting predatory in real life, since always. 

  zᶻ

૮˶- ﻌ -˶ა⌒)ᦱ

[deadlyvengence]

Got sent these and thought they were funny and thought provoking

This especially

Please note: I do not own any of the accounts shown and do not harass them. I leave the names uncensored so I don’t end up taking credit for their posts and comments.

[deadlyvengence]

This is so scary, media literacy has really died

I couldn’t imagine having my brain tied to and rottening with sexual media that I think anything is made for sex appeal just because there’s sex jokes. This is just annoying like stfu, too many porn dependent South Park fans on twitter talk like this, it’s not even that funny T_T

P.S.

Do not harass anyone shown.

These people in the screenshot could be joking but I’ve seen people say similar things to this and mean it

I can react and repost anything online 🤷🏾‍♀️ these screenshots were collected from an online forum so anyone is capable of viewing them.

[deadlyvengence]

TALKING ABOUT ‘THAT KIND OF PERSON’ IN THE SOUTH PARK COMMUNITY

Part 1

Talking about the South Park JLakwesha situation again (this one)

I’m talking about this again cause it’s come to my attention that one of JLakwesha’s friends on twitter has decided to use my words in a previous post against someone who was exposing JLakwesha’s actions which includes sending inappropriate art to minors.

I will be breaking this post up into multiple parts since I have so much to say and I know people won’t want to read everything. This part is all the important information

What they said:

What I originally said in that post which I have now privated:

Let’s make this clear:

I just went off of what I saw in the tumblr document and yet I was very wrong. There is evidence.

Then why at the time did I say it was only word of mouth?

I was being careful. Saying that someone sends inappropriate art to minors is a serious and dangerous claim and I was only looking for solid proof.

Saying there is no evidence was wrong. I take it back. Saying it was only word of mouth was wrong.

I misinterpreted the document and I wasn’t digesting the screenshots provided properly

Here’s why I’m wrong:

For this, I’m going to be looking at the screenshots provided in the document and on twitter only and not the words by the author in the document or the poster on twitter to remove any claims of bias.

(From twitter)

I censored the minor’s name because I don’t want anyone going after them.

What this screenshot gives the idea that JLakwesha was really friends with someone that could be 13 years old and was in a friend group with them (JLakwesha’s words say “most mature in the group.”)

The reason why I didn’t take this as solid proof was because JLawesha’s response to User Ghost claiming that they were friends with a someone who’s middle school age (11 to 14) was not seen

However, JLawesha’s friend basically proves it was a 13 year old and inappropriate art was sent to them.

(On twitter)

I say this because they don’t deny it. Ever.

This claim was made more than once.

They admit to it and excuse it multiple times

this screenshot right here pisses me off and I will be ranting about it in the next post.

“Is the victim still suffering?” Proves they don’t actually see the true error of their ways

Let’s get this right.

Yes Jlakwesha has sent inappropriate art to minors. Yes they do indirectly confirm it. Yes this is serious.

Yes there is a 16 year old involved that has been confirmed by jlakwesha’s friend

But I can’t call it any kind of proof of bad behavior if I’m taking JLakweshas friend’s words as evidence since they claim to have not known the age.

I think that’s really stupid because why would you go ahead with showing them your story knowing it contained sexual humor?

I can make an assumption on their behalf. The 16 year old involved likes South Park and since South Park has sexual humor they thought it would be fine.

..well it’s not fine since you should really ask people their boundaries before showing them that kind of stuff especially since you don’t know their age and there are lots of minors who watch South Park (granted they’re not supposed to but it’s kind of a known fact that a lot of minors are now fans of South Park) so you should really be more careful.

There’s also a 15 year old mentioned in the document on tumblr but JLakwesha’s friend never acknowledges them so I can’t say anything there.

Final remarks

I do not condone harassment

I do not believe that drawing lolisho content makes you a pedo or an offender. I believe its creation and distribution is harmful but I do not believe in harassment.

I believe people should openly discuss why they don’t like it and have intelligent conversations. Threats are not intelligent conversations. Doxxing is extremely unhelpful and immature.

I do not want jlakwesha to be harassed. I apologize in advance cause what I’m about to say is cruel towards them.

I want people to know what they’ve done since it is clear jlakwesha and their friends have no remorse and do not see the harm in their actions. I want people to block them and move on. I do not believe someone like this should have a platform or attention . I’m sorry. After I finish writing all the parts to this post, I will avoid picking up this topic again because I feel bad for all those involved.

[deadlyvengence]

how I feel

[deadlyvengence]

The biggest problem with the "it’s just fiction" argument is the massive double standard. You can’t claim that positive representation in movies and books is life-changing and matters for society, while simultaneously claiming that romanticizing abuse or pedophilia has zero effect on the viewer. If art has the power to empower people, help them cope, destress them, push hate (eg. old racist art of black people that was accepted back then), it also has the power to desensitize them. You can't have it both ways, either media has an impact on the real world, or it doesn't.

Also, comparing this to the video games cause violence thing is such a reach lol. Killing someone in GTA , hitting people in bully, robbing banks in Roblox to get a high score is a game mechanic and in most ‘violent’ video games you get negative consequences for doing bad things anyways, shipping is an emotional and romanticization of a relationship dynamic. When abuse is constantly framed as hot in fan spaces, it creates a culture where those red flags stop looking like red flags and start looking like a joke or something you should beat your meat too. That’s how you end up with echo chambers where actual predators can hide in plain sight because the community has normalized their interests.

We see the real world damage of this normalization everywhere. Look at how the barely legal tropes in 🌽 and media have completely warped how people view actual teenagers today. Because people have consumed so much of that content, they’ve started generalizing real life teen girls as being seductive or wanting attention from older people. It’s reached a point where the sexualization of actual minors is treated as normal or inevitable or “Pppshh! She’s practically an adult! There’s worse out there!” just because people are so used to seeing it in their fictional fantasies. That is a direct, measurable way that fiction bleeds into reality and puts real people at risk.

There is a huge difference between depicting something and shipping it. Someone like George R.R. Martin shows incest or abuse as a tragedy that destroys lives and kingdoms. Proshipping usually strips that tragedy away to focus on the kink or the romance of the taboo. That's a completely different moral framework. At the end of the day, calling out the harm in certain tropes isn't censorship it's just basic media literacy and holding creators accountable for what they choose to glamorize.

Also I dont identify as an anti anymore but I know antis are more likely to agree with this and not harass me so I’m using anti proshipper tags since proshippers would have it blocked c: I already had a proshipper link CSAM on twitter //no, not drawn// to me in my comments with the caption, “This is real c**** p****.” . This is also why when I was bringing awareness to the artist in the South Park fandom that was sending porn to minors, I still used anti tags. Proshippers would just harass me and try to defend them someone who feeds them the content they like. Yes there are antis who harass, are unreasonable and most of them don’t even know what they’re talking about but at least they’d do something that favors my cause but it also means I always need to say:

DO NOT HARASS PEOPLE!!! YOU ARE NOT HELPING !!! SPREAD AWARENESS, REPORT, BLOCK AND MOVE ON. SPENDING TIME DWELLING ON THESE TOPICS AND EXPOSING YOURSELF TO THESE KINDS OF PEOPLE TOO LONG WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR REAL LIFE.

that’s why I just put all my thoughts here on this second account and not my main where I’m always reminded of these kinds of topics.

[deadlyvengence]

This comment thread took the words out of my mouth. couldn’t of said it betterXD

I’m anti censorship but that doesn’t mean I’m anti judgement and anti boundaries. You just care about porn.