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Hot take: What Finn said is actually a BIG WIN for Byler.

In the clip, he says Mike "goes through four or five scenes not telling Eleven how he feels, which is crazy because everyone knows how he feels."

Exactly. Everyone knows that Mike loves El. So the question is… WHY CAN'T HE SAY IT? Finn is drawing attention to this fact.

He also says he wants people to take away from Mike in S4 that "it's okay to be compassionate." The definition of compassion is "sympathetic consciousness of others' distress together with a desire to alleviate it." SO MIKE'S SPEECH WAS COMING FROM A PLACE OF COMPASSION, NOT ROMANTIC LOVE.

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Here's the first panel (courtesy of someone on Twitter). Finn is so funny and cute :)

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was just talking about byler with my cousin and mentioned something about "ao3," and my grandma (who is 84 and kind-of conservative) said "AO3? That young left-wing congresswoman?" xD

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LOL it's actually comical how bad that fake Ross Duffer post is:

",but," "me and Matt" "#bylerscript becoming Number 1 trending" "Yes;" "The feelings however," "second dimension monsters" "I and Matt" "me and Matt's attention"

Need I go on? Normally I wouldn't criticize someone's grammar on Tumblr, especially since many people here don't speak English as their first language. But Ross Duffer, an American WRITER, would not make so many blatant errors. If you're going to make a fake post like this, at least get the basics right!

(Also, not that they ever would, but if the Duffers wanted to post something like this, they would do it from the strangerwriters twitter account!)

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I'm honestly so relieved the S4 8flix scripts were fake because when I read the Dear Billy "cool, cool" scene, I couldn't help but think "yikes!" Not about potential byler implications or anything, but just the non-dialogue writing… was… not good. It made me wonder whether we should put so much faith in the writing in the first place.

I mean we all noticed it and tried to rationalize I think, but "not just listening, but hearing" makes absolutely no sense.

And maybe this is just me but "dry as a California summer" is not only so corny, it also makes no sense. Speechless would be one thing, but if I put myself in Will's shoes in that moment I would be overproducing saliva.. salivating at the thought of my desires being fulfilled! Not at all dry lol.

It was the small things too, like "Mike drops the luggage, and then sits on the edge of a bed." This is an unnatural sentence. It's as if it were written by someone in a rush or someone inexperienced. The "and" is superfluous. The natural sentence would be "Mike drops the luggage, then sits on the edge of a bed" (or replace "then" with "and" and remove the comma).

Plus that script was supposedly the third revision, and you're telling me nobody noticed that Mike says "Mike and Lucas and Dustin" instead of "Max and Lucas and Dustin?"

I didn't call it out at the time, but I did think these things. Anyway, I guess hindsight is 20/20. Sorry if this is moot or if I'm being too persnickety. At least my doubts about the writing quality are diminished (for now).*

*Although Will's line "without heart, we'd all fall apart" still pains my ears. I mean, rhyming, really?!?!

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There's fun hype and smartly using your moment in the spotlight to further your brand/company/project and then there's just annoying. Just saying...

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Playing in my head rn:

Here you come again Just when I've begun to get myself together You waltz right in the door, just like you've done before And wrap my heart 'round your little finger

Here you come again Just when I'm about to make it work without you You look into my eyes and light those dreamy eyes And pretty soon I'm wondering how I came to doubt you

All you gotta do is smile that smile And there go all my defenses Just leave it up to you and in a little while You're messing up my mind and filling up my senses

Here you come again Looking better than a body has a right to And shaking me up so, that all I really know Is here you come again, and here I go

All you gotta do is smile that smile And there go all my defenses Just leave it up to you and in a little while You're messing up my mind and filling up my senses

Here you come again Looking better than a body has a right to And shaking me up so, that all I really know Is here you come again, and here I go

Here I go And here I go And here I go Here you come again And here I go Here I go And here I go

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I kind of want to walk into a SuperCuts and say “barber, give me the Will Byers Bowl Cut.”

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“Without heart, we’d all fall apart. Even me; especially me… These past few months, I’ve been so lost without you. It’s just I’m so… different from other people… and when you’re- when you’re different… sometimes you feel like a mistake. But you make me feel like I’m not a mistake at all, like I’m better for being different. And that gives me the courage to fight on. If I was mean to you or if it seemed like I was pushing you away, it’s just because I was scared of losing you, just like you’re scared of losing me. And if I was going to lose you, I’d rather just get it over with quick, like ripping off a Band-Aid. So yeah, I need you, Mike. And I always will.”

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Wow, I’m just realizing Mike and Will really got around in S4. They did it in all these places:

Jonathan’s bedroom

Will’s bedroom

On top of a car in the middle of nowhere

In the back of a hippie’s van

On a couch in a cabin in the woods

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Script delay = writers scrubbing all potential spoilers :/

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Can we please not freak out about this?! That is literally a fact everyone already knew: Mike likes El. We all know that. He even said he loves her in the show lol. That doesn’t change anything. I think Noah doesn’t want to get our hopes up too high, because if byler doesn’t happen he doesn’t want to be queerbaiting us. So he has to be careful. And honestly he definitely doesn’t even know what’s going to happen with it!

Tbh it’s equally dumb when we freak out in a positive way when Noah just mentions byler, but at least in that case it’s fun and not a downer.

Focus on the story, the characters, the dialogue, the framing, the symbolism.

Marketing, off-the-cuff cast comments, and “leaks” are all (to quote Nancy Wheeler) bullsh*t.

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Season 5 Mike Wheeler post-gay-awakening:

Source: I’m the costume designer.

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Before byler happens, as part of the build-up, I really need to see Will ride on the back of Mike's bike in S5 like El does in S1. And he puts his arms around Mike's waist and holds on tight. And Mike realizes he likes it… he really likes it.

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I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT THIS

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Saw this scrolling through byler twitter and it took me a minute to realize it was an ad and not an actual byler post 😆

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Wait so Mike and Will were in the back of that van for hours and hours… surely they would've dozed off a few times?

Like Will keeps nodding off and then his head slowly keeps falling to the left until it's resting on Mike's shoulder. And Mike lets Will sleep on his shoulder for as long as he wants and its so cute I'm throwing up

Someone with artistic abilities please draw it!!