A long winded question about Samarina as a ship pretty much.
Okay I don't really like to talk about these type of things much but this genuinely piqued my interest.
Obviously Samarina is like the most toxic Yuri to ever exist but I saw some posts that made me think quite hard about it more.
The reason the Yuri is toxic is because Samarie is deadass a creepy stalker who kills Marina's dad in some like sick attempt at protecting or winning her over (or at least something akin to that) and Marina just cannot stand her at all, like she totally hates Samarie's guts.
Most of her dialogue towards Samarie is extremely extremely rude and hurtful (rightly so) because this is a girl that has been stalking her and also murders her dad, I mean when you kill Dysmorphia and talk with Marina she literally says:
"Let's just get out of here. This place is such a bore..."
(Probably my favorite line from her ever really).
Now I bring this up because I see people mention if Samarie was a man the ship would be hated a lot more, which while I do not disagree with that sentiment due to gender unfortunately always muddying the water with these type of things, I always assumed there was a portion of people shipping this specifically for that toxic and unhealthy side, and I do not particularly see why both of their genders should matter much if that is reason why you enjoy the ship.
I am also curious about what would make the ship okay for those who do not like or even outright hate it, what elements are unacceptable to them?
Is it just the mere premise or is it the generalised portrayal of the ship? Or is it more so the double standard that some people who ship it would not do so if Samarie was a man?
Would the ship be okay in an au where Samarie did less of these actions or did them differently? At what point do her actions make the ship unacceptable? As obviously if she did none of these things it would be okay.
Would Samarie changing as a person and realising her actions were wrong and making a change towards remedying them make it okay?
Now obviously the answer is different for everyone but I mostly bring this up because I would obviously not particularly want my portrayal of the two to end up bad or particularly romanticizing Samarie's actions at all and I am curious as to how others really view and deal with that issue.
(Also kind of a side note but I don't like it when people say that they should ship Marina and Olivia instead, I don't really think that's a helpful or productive thing to say as again there are people that like shipping these specific two characters and not just the general idea of there being a sapphic relationship: nor am I particularly big fan of the seeming divide between Marlevi shippers and Samarina shippers, I think this divide is only pulling people apart really but that's more unrelated to this question.)
Chat do you like your joints noisey or quiet, loose or stiff?
I personally like sort of somwhat clicky, whirry joints that are relatively loose because I really like the idea of being able to 360 certain parts of myself,,,
Mmm yknow I tend to use She/Her mostly but there are certain moods I get into where I almost EXCLUSIVELY want to be referred to at it/It's.
Not fully sure WHY but methinks its calming to be dehumanized and reminded that I'm just a silly little object that needent worry about a thing in this world since I usually get in those moods after being stressed/during a coping mechanism.
Alternatively, to be a doll who is just a sweet little thing that can't remember a day in it's life and trips over that same nail on the shelf everyday and shatters it's pretty little skin.
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