Family tree of Izalith! (Well, in a certain timeframe, she actually has like 50000 more babies and you know it) EDIT: Nightreign actually gave Nameless King a name lol
Explanations for design choices and names under cut:
1) Izalith IS her actual name! It is a bit obscured, but Miyazaki did mention it in the design works interview ( x ): "...Despite his size, he’s actually the youngest of Izalith’s children, he stands gazing up at the ruins where his sisters live. " Quelana also mentioned it in Japanese script:
私の母イザリスは : ‘My mother, Izalith’
2) Quelaana/Quelaan is not a thing! According to the dataminers, it was just a mistake that endured so long it spread within the fandom, but nope, Fair Lady remains nameless. In fact, as you can see, Quelana is actually Quelaana, because of the long ー!
3) I've noticed the pattern between Quelana and Grana, both eldest. Quelana says she abandoned her younger sisters in Japanese script:
…私は、母も、妹たちも、すべて棄てて逃げ出したんだ
Their names are very similar, only Grana is missing the ー (that localised as double aa) and 'ku' sound is replaced with 'gu' sound! So, クラーナ (Qura~na) and グラナ (Gurana). The sisters also tend to come in pairs: Quelaag and Fair Lady had the same mutation, two sisters became right and left arms of Bed of Chaos, and then two eldest sisters share a naming pattern... So I've decided that they should be born as twin pairs (not necessarily identical as you can see), and repeat the naming pattern. But always replacing 'ku' with 'gu' didn't work because, I shit you not, in that case Fair Lady's name would sound like word gulag fsdhfdshfsd So I had to get creative with the sounds!
4) Appearances of Grana and the Parasitic Wall-Hugger (labeled 'Prince Izalith' internally and having same mutation as Jeremiah, only entirely swallowed) are based of the secret face data attached only to Grana! Whereas removing her helmet just gives placeholder default data, loading her through debug menu will (seemingly randomly) load one of these faces:
Other faceless NPCs like Ciaran and two Darkmoon Blades do not behave like that! This NPC is seemingly broken, but I believe the blond girl is "canon" since the body is female and seems to match her head! But attaching that guy to Grana's data specifically made me think he must be connected to the Witch's family!
5) Whereas Quelana has normal skin tone in character data, trophy that depicts her and her concept art show grey skin, just like her mother's:
The thing is, in Dark Souls 1 creator it is impossible to make purely grey skin because you need RGB type of color selection slider for it... which Dark Souls 1 does not use. Purple, green and blue? Sure! But not grey. So I decided to ignore her face data colors as technical limitation and base her off the art of her instead! It fits, because Izalith herself has grey skin too!
6) The Tailsman of Fair Lady's hair in Dark Souls 3 has her hair pulled through Old Witch's Ring:
(By dataminer Zullie: ( x ))
I added this part on her former hairstyle... Let's assume she allowed someone to cut her hairbun for their sake, since her hair helps with casting miracles and she is a very generous lady. I actually think ALL sisters used to wear a variant of Old Witch's Ring in some capacity after Ceaseless was born to understand what he was saying, but some of the portraits I've drawn don't let me showcase them!
7) Seeing how Quelana just looks like her mother and Grana just looks like her father, I thought it was fitting if twin pairs would be born with dark and fair hair! But Quelaag already has a circle of green close to her pupil and some grey shades in her hair, so I thought that the younger sisters get, the more the colors "mix". That's why the youngest sister just has colors mixed completely, whereas 'Prince Izalith' instead has fractioned colors from both parents!
8) The idea of Nameless King having had colorful mane and eyes in his youth is based on this theory I smoked recently:
His youngest version having 8 red strands in his hair is based on his symbol of Warrios of Sunlight having radiant red rays in Dark Souls 1!
At the same time, if Lion Clan people to him are what Corvians to Velka, it would make sense if they were based on him too, so he most likely had golden hair:
The black-maned lions are Hollow though, so I don't think of them too hard! So I guess Nameless King is as much Radahn prediction as he is Godwyn prediction! God of War associated with the lions and all.
The long red plume we've seen on Ornstein was always intended to be his hair, as we don't have it avialable in player variant of this armor! Dark Souls 3 added it on by fans' petition to do so ( x ), but it didn't yet retroactively change the lore; Artorias and Ciaran themselves cut off their long hair and attached it again to their headwears, so we might assume that Ornstein did the same later in life! Maybe he was getting old?
At the same time, Dragonslayer Armour has red plume as a decoration by defition. They are supposed to be a subordinate of Ornstein, since Ornstein is the chief Knight of NK. All of this to say, 'red lion mane' symbolism belongs to Ornstein, not to Grynn, and Grynn's lion mane must be golden! Besides, Shira is a daughter of Seath and an unseen relative of Gwyn, and she does have blond hair, so we already know blond hair gene exists in this family!
9) Theory that Lost Sinner IS Princess/Queen of Venn just makes the most sense, nothing else to say here... Venn was affiliated with the Moon though, and Sinner has both beard and breasts:
And whereas normally all gender-neutral pronouns is localized as 'he', in this case, devs specifically instructed people to not fuck this up and specify she IS a female character x) Moonlight IS gender-bending power of the setting as confirmed in Dark Souls 3 (and partially in 1), and it adds to her connection to Izalith whose grey skin and blue lips might hint to initial Moon affinity too! Moon and Fire always go together in Dark Souls and Elden Ring, and in Elden Ring they are also inherently hostile to the "Sun" or "Gold"... so, Jealous Moon!
10) I thought Izalith felt broken and used seeing how her firstborn was just a child of Sun, without any link to her. So in her grudge and strive to equality, she separated Jeremiah from her own being... Though, ironically, as you can see, her side ended up "dominant" if not suppressive anyways. I guess I felt like subverting trope of Lilith a little. It also interestingly enough mirrors Daughters of the Dark; two of them, Elana and Nashandra, have fair hair and green eyes, and other two have dark hair (and brown eyes, Alsanna has a hidden brown-eyed texture). She mirrors this type of splitting with her colorations a bit!
Like I said, I was studying the Sun's children designs! Learned that Filianore's coat and Gwynevere's sleeves and ribbons are transparent. Young Grynn is based on Warriors of Sunlight statue, but with some creative liberties because I am allergic to low details. :>
I based their colors on the day cycle theory I've made earlier! So, Gwyn's "morning" eyes are reverse Gwynevere situation (grey with orange circle), and Filianore's eye color is orange/yellow mixed together with grey!
+ Want to preface and add that Priscilla and Yorshka are not children of the Sun. Gwyndolin is Sun's LASTborn, whereas Yorshka is his younger sister! Meanwhile, Priscilla is not only pure Dark but also is a bastard child, when her father, Seath, is a legitimate member of Gwyn's family! He is a 外戚! But ❗ I still intend to draw the halfbreeds too, and Shira as well! Just another time, in another post!
i wonder what do you think what an "outer" god is supposed to be? do you consider the likes of the fell/flame god and the formless mother to be outer gods? i mean FG is kinda confusing considering he is usually portrayed with a physical form compared to other outer gods "not necessarily the god itself but how he is seen by others" similar to the rot god which probably possessed a scorpion form once.
Oh, Formless Mother is confirmed to be an Outer God!
Fell God really is very perplexing for me for sure! At the very least, I am 101% sure that Fell God is not an Outer God; he is never even mentioned as one!
He is, however, mentioned as an 'Old God':
Here is Japanese description of Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword:
As for what Old Gods are, I believe they were colossal creatures, and it is their enormously-sized skulls that we keep finding across the Lands Between:
Ancient Meteoric Ore Sword is an arrowhead of their arsenal! If their weapons were this huge, imagine how much bigger they were! I had a previous post regarding Fell God here ( x ) and his connection with Rauh civilisation, and this is the version in a reblog where @val-of-the-north also brought an evidence that they were fighting the drakes too! Check this one too! (it is short)
Another thing is that Outer Gods appear to be inhuman, strange in nature. Their Japanese title is 外なる神, which is the term literally used for Eldrich Gods like in Lovecraftian myths. Outer is a good localisation; it is unique, and refers to how they are basically aliens. However, Fell God was consistently humanoid, albeit cyclopic, which was considered an anomaly:
So, he was "malformed", for starters. At the same time, turns out that his body is not really what he is!
We see the Fire Giant summoning Fell God by burning part of his body, and it is repeatedly said that he can't be killed. He lingers on as sort of an entity. In other words, this thing:
is the "real" Fell God!
It looks a lot like the Sun, too, so I think the moons that Carians, and formerly Nox + Moonfolk have been discovering, might come from a Moon/Water Goddess mirroring him. Not to mention that whereas Fell God has Rauh connections, so does the Water Fairy ( x )!
I think the simplest conclusion is that whereas Outer Gods are aliens seeking Earth and our existence from out there, Old Gods have the opposite way! They're "earth born", formed from ground and other elements into their physical forms, but perhaps seeking to return to their roots? Again: it is Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword! There has been sort of meteoric shower that allegedly was the start of existence in general, and many other meteorites still were falling. There are also Alabaster and Onyx lords who are very much like humans but formed from the ore as well.
So I think Old Gods were born because of meteorites falling on Earth, but rather than becoming Fallingstar Beasts or Astels, they became humanoids and some of the oldest life forms. That's why the Sun and Moon connection, and that's why the essence of such Gods still lives even without physical body.
Again:
Farum Azula was struck by a meteorite and these are not all that spontaneous in Elden Ring setting, Old Gods were fighting drakes as well and Fire Giants, servants of Fell God, battled Ice Dragons... It looks like once in a while, Greater Will gets tired of the same age stagnating for too long and stirs things to motion, so maybe age of Dragons and Drakes overstayed its welcome? And that's why Old Gods were inclined to be hostile to the dragons - sending something that would create them had intention of finally changing the eras? So, era of the Old Gods and the Giants began. (Giants were to them what Drakes were to Ancient Dragons?)
Citation needed, since God of Placidusax was also a generic human woman, so Old Gods and Giants at the very least didn't predate humans x) I dunno whether Fell God and his ken skipped the whole "chosen Empyrean by the Two Fingers". Divine Towers that house minor Two Fingers were built by Rauh that are connected with Fire Giants, so maybe he did own the Elden Ring before.
...and then Marika, led by the Two Fingers (what a fucking thing to hear out of context lol), also caused the era to shift. It seems like the only thing Greater Will hates is stagnation... shit, maybe Marika's plan to have eternal era was doomed from the start? But that's a thought for another time sfdhhdfs
+ Gods of Fulghor might have been Old Gods as well! Not to mention that the lightning from Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword is actually magic damage.
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