Just When I Thought I Was Out

I'm Dovestorm, any pronouns welcome. I was big into the Warrior Cats fandom about 5 years ago. While I haven't read a Warriors book since then, I still love to create cats and clans of my own.

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Important Links

(For anyone looking to go through a series from the beginning, or want an easy way to support future series, here’s some links I hope you’ll find helpful. - Dove)

Ways to support me

Patreon(work in progress)

Current Series

Warriors of the Wild

Creating Cats

New Tales of the Forest

Series that are either on hiatus or cancelled

Warriors Destiny

A Forest of Tales

Acornclan/Shoreclan

Dawnclan

Dark Forest Disciples

Doveclan/Doveclan reborn

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Genetically Accurate Trees: Pt. 5

Time for Crowfeather and his kits with Leafpool. Let me know if you want to see Crowfeather's tree at some point or not.

First things first, here's Leafpool and her current genes:

Now onto Crowfeather.

This won't be the last time I use a headcanon design in these trees. Crowfeather on the wiki is described as "dark grey almost black". Since I've only ever pictured him as black, I decided to make him smoke to get that greyish coloring in his design. Other than the dominant "I" for inhibitor, which makes a solid cat smoke, Crowfeather is just a solid black cat. Easy enough. Now for the kids!

Jayfeather is pretty easy. And, since he has no children, we can give him both of his parents' dominant alleles for fun. He gets dad's "B" to make him black, and he's carrying one of mom's black-based alleles. I decided on chocolate because no one in this litter expresses any chocolate. Leafpoof is carrying a "d" from Sandstorm that she can give Jayfeather, and we can say Crowfeather is also carrying. I'm pretty sure both Crow's parents are black furred, so he could get his carried dilution from anywhere. Mom's "S" allows Jayfeather a bit of white so he can keep his blue eyes. I can't picture Jayfeather with any color eyes but blue, so he must gain white. Crowfeather is also now carrying a "i" for no-inhibitor to keep Jayfeather from turning silver. Leafpool isn't silver, so she only have "i" to give. Mom gives Jay both her "A" for tabby and her "Mc" for mackerel, while Crowfeather can only give "a" for solid. Neither parent displays ticked, so that locus isn't shown here. It still exists, I'm just not writing it.

Hollyleaf is also quite easy. (Ignore that I called Jayfeather easy and then rambled about his genes) She's a solid black longhair, I could make her smoke to match Crowfeather, but does he really deserve to have his daughter match him when he has Breezepelt, whom I always imagined as a mini Crowfeather? I didn't write it out for some reason, but she's "i/i" to keep her non-smoke. Leafpool gets her "a" to make Hollyleaf solid from Jake passing his "a" to Firestar(Nutmeg's "A" would be making him tabby), which Firestar then goes and gives to Leafpool(with Sandstorm's "A" making her tabby), so she can now give it to Hollyleaf to express. Crowfeather only has "a" to give her. Crowfeather is also now carrying "l" for longhair, Leafpool is already carrying one thanks to Firestar's floofy self.

Lionblaze is like Snadstorm, a fawn tabby instead of cream. Leafpool is carrying a bl from Sandstorm, and Crowfeather can be carrying. Same goes for dilution. Recessives can hide in the tree for generations, so Leafpool could've gotten a "mc" for classic from anywhere. Crowfeather can also be carrying a hidden "mc" as well.

With that, this part of the tree is done. Next part will cover Lionblaze's kits with Cinderheart(not all of them though).

Hope you enjoy!

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Genetically Accurate Trees: Pt. 4

Time to cover Sandstorm and her kits with Firestar.

As a reminder, here's fire boy and his currently known genes:

While I like the idea of Redtail as Sandstorm's dad, I am not doing that for this tree. Redtail, and probably Spottedleaf, is gonna get switched around in the trees before I make him Sand's dad. For now, we're just gonna make Sandstorm as if she doesn't have parents on the trees, because she currently doesn't.

To avoid tortie once again, Sandstorm is no longer ginger either. Instead, she is dilute cinnamon(aka fawn), which looks alot like cream. Thank @littlehungrywarriorcats for their video on Firestar's tree, because I did not know fawn looks like cream beforehand. I also didn't know rufousing existed before watching their videos, so thank them for that too. And the picrew, I love using the picrew they made as a quick way to design cats.

My adoration of a particular youtuber aside, Sandstorm is pretty simple. "bl" for cinnomon(b1 also works, but I like using bl), it's completely recessive to chocolate and black, so she gets two cinnamon alleles. Two "o" to make her non-ginger, two "d" to make her dilute, and two "w" because she's got no white. If it weren't for Crystal giving her descendants some white patches, Sandstorm could've ended up with a bit of white to ensure Squilf and Leaf get their white spotting. Thankfully, Crystal gave Jake her "S" for white spotting, which he gave to Firestar, who can now give to both his daughters.

Squirrelflight gets a "B" from Firestar to make her stripes black, she also gets his high rufousing to look ginger despite the two non-ginger "o"s her parents gave her. Sandstorm can only give "bl" for cinnamon, so Squilf is now carry for cinnamon in case one of her future descendants needs it. Sandstorm also can only give "d" for dilution. So, while Firestar gives Squilf a "D" to keep her non-dilute, she'll be carrying for dilution. She then gets Firestar's "S" and one of Sandstorm's "w"s to give her low spotting, which is displayed in her single white paw that matches half-uncle Scourge. She can get her "A" for tabby from either parent, and then Firestar's "Ta" to make her ticked, with Sandstorm only able to give "ta" to make Squilf heterozygous.

Sandstorm is now carrying for longhair so that Squilf can be her fluffy longhaired self.

Most of Leafpool's genotype is similar to her sister. Gets a "o" from each parent, dad's "D" and mom's "d", dad's "S" and mom's "w", "A" and "C" from either parent. Unlike Squilf, Leafpool is chocolate and non-ticked. Sandstorm can only give "bl" for cinnamon, so Firestar has to carry chocolate under his black. Thankfully, his mom is chocolate, so she can give him the "b" to give Leaf. While Squilf got Firestar's "Ta" to make her ticked, Leaf instead gets his "ta" to avoid her being ticked as well. Since her stipe pattern is now visible, she'll get her mom's "Mc" to make her mackerel tabby. She also gets Sandstorm's "L" to make her shorthair, and a "l" hidden under it because that's all Firestar can give on that locus.

And that's this section of the tree complete.

I'm gonna put off doing Squilf's branch for a bit, since I still don't know what to do for her granddaughter. So, next part will cover Leafpool's kits with Crowfeather.

Enjoy!

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Genetically Accurate Trees: Pt. 3

We've done Jake's kits with Quince, now for Jake's kits with Nutmeg. Specifically, Princess and Firestar. Just to avoid personal confusion, I used their warrior names instead of the leader names in the tree. So Firestar is Fireheart, Bramblestar is Brambleclaw, Squirrelstar is Squirrelflight, etc. I'm not including Firestar and Princess's 3 siblings here, but I might cover them in the future.

As a reminder, here's Jake and his known genes:

Now for Nutmeg. She's a brown tabby with a white tux pattern. Her stripes are brown as well, so I'm making her a chocolate tabby. She's a mackerel, so "Mc", and homozygous "ta/ta" because she's not ticked but her mate is ticked so the locus needs to be shown.

Princess and Firestar have a severe case of "cartoon animal genetics". Aka, the son is a clone of the dad, while the daughter is a clone of the mom. However, real animals do not play by those rules. I had to use rufousing on black tabbies just to get the kits to both look similar to canon and be genetically possible. Without that trick, Firestar would be very much black or brown while his sister would be tortie. And we're not at Nightheart yet, so ruddy ticked Fire boy shall be.

wow the golden fur makes Firestar look like Longtail. XDc

Anyway, he's another brown tabby with high rufousing to make him look more reddish between the stripes. Since his daughters both have white on them, and Jake now has a "S" to give, we can give Firestar a little white spotting. This is shown through a locket on his chest and the tip of his tail. He needs "l/l" to be longhair. Jake can only give "l", and we can have Nutmeg carry "l" under her shorthair "L".

The wiki image of Princess makes her look heterozygous ticked, so that's what I did. Outside of the ticking, Princess's genotype is very similar to her mom's, thanks to black-based Jake having a "o" instead of a "O" to give her. Just like Firestar, she's longhair in the same way, Jake can only give "l" for longhair, and Nutmeg is carrying.

And that's this section done! Like I said before, I'm not doing the other three Fire siblings unless I do a bonus post in the future. Maybe for the other version of these trees that I plan to make in the future.

Next part will cover Firestar's mate and kids. Hope you enjoy!

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Genetically Accurate Trees: Pt. 2

Welcome to Part two! Last part covered Jake and his parents. This part is just going to be Jake's kids with Quince, because I'm pretty sure Tumblr still has a limit on how many images I can add to a post.

As a reminder, here's Jake and his currently known (as of this post) genotype:

Quince is quite easy, just a solid blue shorthair. "B" for black, "o/o" so there's no ginger covering the black, "d/d" to dilute that black into grey(blue), "w/w" for no white, "a/a" for no stripes at all, "C" for fullcolor, and "L" for shorthair.

For their children, all three are black, with one being dilute black just like Quince. Jake needs a "d" hidden under his "D" in order to make Ruby a blue cat like her mom instead of black like her brothers. He can get it from either parent, but I'm just going to give it to Crystal. I know Somalis can be dilute, but it feels more likely for Crystal to have that hidden dilution allele than for Mocha to. Anyway, that means Jake now has a "d" to give Ruby, and a "D" to give her brothers. All three kids are also shorthairs, so they each get Quince's "L" and one of Jake's "l"s, since that's all he can give on that locus.

Also, now that Jake is black-based instead of red-based, he has a "o" to give Ruby. If he were genetically ginger, she'd be stuck a tortie. The inability for this tree to have torties just by making Jake black-based instead of ginger comes in handy alot, and messes with one cat much further down the line. We'll discuss that issue more when we get to it.

For Ruby's brothers, both Socks and Scourge are black cats with low white spotting, Socks having a tuxedo pattern and Scourge having a single white paw that I love giving cats. Thankfully, Crystal gave Jake a "S" to make him also have low white spotting, so he can give that "S" to both boys for their white patches to exist.

The amount and location of white spotting is presumed to be a mixed of polygenes and developmental, leading to two cats with seemingly identical genotypes looking quite different.

I'm not mapping eye colors, so the cats get whatever eye color I have them listed with, idk all their canon eye colors so just went with the colors in their pictures on the wiki unless a rule must be followed like blue eyes only allowed if the cat has white on them, or is colorpoint, for example.

That's it for

Quince and her kits with Jake. Next part will cover two of Jake's kits with Nutmeg, including the Warriors poster boy himself!

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Genetically Accurate Trees: Pt. 1

Welcome to a series that will, hopefully, not get dropped like the rest have. I have the first 3 trees mapped out already, I just need to put together visuals and write out genes. Currently, I have Firestar's tree written out for the most part, as well as bits at the top of Tigerstar and Graystripe's trees. To get the visuals of the genes done quicker, I'll be using a cat maker picrew by @littlehungrywarriorcats. I do plan to try and draw the cats, or at least their heads, to get a better look at the colors. Especially in Firestar's tree, since the picrew doesn't have a good way to show high rufousing.

Anyway, introductions to this series aside, time for the first section of the Firestar tree. I like to start with Crystal and her non-existent mate Mocha.

Crystal is a ginger and white she-cat with blue eyes. However, I want Jake to be black-based so Princess stays non-tortie. Jake can only get his allele for non-ginger from Crystal, since the ginger alleles are sex-linked and Mocha can only give Jake a Y to make him male.

So, Crystal's now black, and then we make her a tabby. While I could attempt to make her Somali of some kind, her white messes with breed standards and I think the black stripes add to her looking like a crystal.

The reddish brown between her stripes would be darker, but I'm gonna use the darker golden swatch in the picrew to show a cat has that higher rufousing. Crystal's genotype would then be: B/-,o/o,D/-,S/w,A/-,Mc/-,ta/ta,C/-,l/l (this isn't her full genotype, but a simplified version that currently only shows the expressed genes).

"B" for black, two "o" to make her non-ginger because Crystal is X/X, "D" for non-dilute, "S/w" for low white, "A" to make her a tabby, and then "Mc" to make her mackerel, two "ta" for non-ticked(this is here because I made her mate ticked), a "Ta" at all would make her ticked, "C" for fullcolor(I like points, so I always write this locus out), and two "l" to make Crystal longhair. We don't know what she's has under her dominant alleles, so we'll leave those blank for now. As long as those blanks are there, we can come back and plug in recessives when needed later down the line.

Now for her mate Mocha.

All we know is an author said he's brown, so we have to use headcanons for his design. Since I didn't make Crystal Somali, let's make Mocha one! He's now a chocolate Somali. Somalis are always "A/A,Ta/Ta". Jake and Firestar can't be homozygous for tabby and ticked due to their children, but Jake needs to get that ticked from somewhere, and Mocha can easily be made homozygous. I'm not doing Jake's siblings since they have no design description, so they don't matter when deciding Mocha's genes.

Mocha is now "b" for chocolate, "o/Y" for non-ginger, "D" for non-dilute, "w/w" for no white, "A/A" for tabby, "Ta/Ta" for ticked, "C/C" for fullcolor(I don't know if point or albino are possible in the breed), and "l/l" for longhair. This makes Mocha's genotype: "b/-,o/Y,D/-,w/w,A/A,Ta/Ta,C/C,l/l".

Lastly for this post, we have their son Jake. Again, Jake's two siblings Ferris and Whiskers don't have a design on the wiki, so I'm not doing them here. I might, as a bonus post in the future, try to give the designs and make up family trees for them.

Just like his mom, Jake is high rufoused. Rufousing is polygenetic, so I'm not really showing it in the genotypes. Since Mocha is homozygous for ticked, he has to give Jake a "Ta", which makes Jake heterozygous ticked. He's still got less stripes than the typical tabby, but more than a homozygous ticked tabby would. Crystal is homozygous for non-ticked, so can only give Jake a "ta", which make him heterozygous.

He has to gain a little white for future generations, and Crystal has that white to give (this is mostly so I don't have to give Quince and Sandstorm non-canonical white)

Jake's resulting genotype is now: "B/-,o/Y,D/-,S/w,A/-,Ta/ta,C/-,l/l". The gaps will be filled in soon, trust me.

Anyway, that's all for this part. Next will be Jake's kits with Quince, just to get them out of the way.

Hope you all enjoyed!

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Welcome back to Dove's attempts to revive this blog every few months or so!

I've been really hyperfixating on cat genetics, and wanted to share with someone.

I plan to work on some genetically accurate trees, and a few hypothetical kittens.

The trees I plan to work on:

- Firestar's tree (a version where genes get changed around to make cats as close to canon/headcanon as possible, and a version where only the top of each tree gets their canon/headcannon design unless the genotypes allow for it)

- Tigerstar's tree (a version where genes get changed around to make cats as close to canon/headcanon as possible, and a version where only the top of each tree gets their canon/headcannon design unless the genotypes allow for it)

- Graystripe's tree (a version where genes get changed around to make cats as close to canon/headcanon as possible, and a version where only the top of each tree gets their canon/headcannon design unless the genotypes allow for it)

- Bluestar's tree (a version where genes get changed around to make cats as close to canon/headcanon as possible, and a version where only the top of each tree gets their canon/headcannon design unless the genotypes allow for it)

Hypo kits I plan to make:

- MothLeaf (a litter with Mothwing as the bio mom using a donor, and a little with Leafpool as the bio mom using a donor)

If there's any family trees or hypokits that you'd like me to do, don't be afraid to ask.

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100 Kittens(Lynxstar): Gen 1

Moon 19: no kits yet

Moon 20: no kits yet

Moon 21: Kits on the way!

Moon 22: Kits on the way!

Moon 23: 2/100 kits

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100 Kittens(Lynxstar): Gen 1

Moon 13: no kits yet

Moon 14: no kits yet

Moon 15: no kits yet

Moon 16: no kits yet

I swear, at this rate, I might have to restart before I can get this cat to have kits.

Moon 17: no kits yet

Moon 18: no kits yet

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100 Kittens(Lynxstar): Gen 1

Moon 7: no kits yet

Moon 8: no kits yet

Moon 9: no kits yet

Moon 10: no kits yet

Moon 11: no kits yet

Moon 12: no kits yet

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100 Kittens(Lynxstar): Gen 1

Moon 5: no kits yet, no events

Moon 6: no kits yet

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100 Kittens(Lynxstar): Gen 1

Moon 4: no kits yet

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100 Kittens(Lynxstar): Gen 1

Moon 3: no kits yet

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100 Kittens(Lynxstar): Gen 1

Moon 2: no kits yet

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100 Kittens(Lynxstar):Gen 1

Moon 1: no kits yet

Potential future second parents for the challenge have joined.

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100 Kittens(Lynxstar): Gen 1

Mate #1: Mousespeckle

Moon 0

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100 kitten challenge

inspired by the 100 baby challenge on the sims, as popularized by simtubers like the buzzfeed girl (kelsey impicciche)

you have a parent cat, and your goal is to have that parent (matriarch/patriarch/whatever you want) have 100 kittens!

repeated pairings are not allowed (aka aside from same-litter kittens, all the kittens should have a different other parent)

what you need

a parent cat

allow same sex kittens

don't allow unmated cats to have offspring

don't allow affairs (ty theo for the catch!)

no mass extinction :<

all other options are up to you :3

how to start

create your clan

make your parent cat the leader

pick a mate for the leader

wait for them to have kits

once kits are born, break them up with their mate, and pick another mate

if your leader dies, choose one of their kits as the new parent cat/leader

rinse and repeat until you reach 100 kittens!

notes

feel free to pick up outsider cats to join

if needed, you can change the leader's age to be younger so they can have More Kits

you're also allowed to modify your game/increase kit chances etc!

if a kit dies before reaching 12 moons, then they don't count towards the total

if the selected parent cat/leader dies without any kits, start over from square 1

last but not least… have fun!

Here's the first challenge I'm gonna try to do to fill out the queue between work on some writing and family trees.

Here's the first leader/parent cat for the challenge.