padmé milf fucker moments

sorry i have failed my namesake and this is more broadly my horny PT thoughts

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Yknow what gets me is that L*cas knows his primary inspirations (adventure serials) are kind of goofy, not the best fiction of its time, corny, obviously constrained by budget and format etc. And yet people want to mythologize it to mean there's some golden quality to it that can make star w*rs good. That's like saying you loved the practiced posing and excessive pyrotechnics of Power Ranger shows and wanting to recreate that TV-budget production look as faithfully as possible at a theatrical movie-level. That's not what you actually liked about it.

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People are posting their prequel rewrites on twitter and some saying obi and ani should have a more emotionally significant first meeting with each other 🙂‍↔️They want him to be the padme of the trilogy so bad

Like feeling like qui jacked the jedisplaining and Forcesplaining parts for Anakin so we don't get the scenario where ani's impression of obi is of wide-eyed idealism so we can see it end in tragedy.

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I do love some of the an*dala takes here but unfortunately they sonetimes presume that like every decision George made is like, godly or inspired. And I really can't get behind that.

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Limitations are good. Lucas couldn't have achieved what he wanted to film in 70's and perhaps that limit is what made the stories in those films simply better.

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Padmé presumably lying there, vulnerable and unconscious on the warm metallic surface of Mustafar's platforms for a whole 10 minutes while Ani and Obi get sweaty bashing their wands together really tells you the narrative priority of the directors.

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au where obw compromises and helps a terrified anakin get padme to safety before any lightsaber is drawn

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Padmé presumably lying there, vulnerable and unconscious on the warm metallic surface of Mustafar's platforms for a whole 10 minutes while Ani and Obi get sweaty bashing their wands together really tells you the narrative priority of the directors.

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Cooking a hot speculative take that the reason why George didn't feel that the Tartakovsky microseries was stylistically in-line with his movies is because they were actually good at non-verbal, visual storytelling and George needs his stories to have dialogue reacting to what's on screen every minute.

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I think what gets me about people being so zealous about (their interpretation of) "the Skywalker story" is that being so overly defensive about the characters' supposed "dignity" is like one of the fundamental reasons why the s*quel tr*logy went off a very wrong foot.

I think the idea of a son turning violent and patricidal because of extraordinary expectations is a great idea!! It's a great counterpoint or response to the OT; coming from a journey about forging a connection to your heritage against all odds, we now tackle the idea about how much are children able to define themselves away from their birth family. These are the kind of legacy themes and extended commentary I'm all in for.

What I don't like is how the movie seems to feel the need to reset Han's reputation after all these years and just so Han can do a funny run-in with a former debtor. Again. That is not a meaningful development or response to the character as he is in the OT. It's a very poorly done reset of the status quo that wasn't even needed. It's too precious about this calcified idea of what the OT characters are and is not willing to make any significant development to them because creators and audiences alike are too attached to their reputation and dignity.

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I'm sure having to tell your wife that your plan to save her life involved helping the dictator remake the government into his autocratic, genocidal Empire behind her back was a very considerate thing for him to do

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I'm just saying but maybe ob*k*n wouldn't have been AS popular or easy to get into if the creators themselves weren't also trying to will an emotionally-resonant relationship between the two.

Like despite how Ben treated Luke and what he said about Vader Lucas gave Ben the happy Christian afterlife WITH Anakin, people took that emotional note and went on to write them being so compassionate and triumphant and cathartic with each other in the Force. Like idk if Lucasfilm wanted us to be critical of Ben I don't think they would've let the official books have Ben hug and maybe kiss Anakin and say "You did it!" as the their final moments of existence together.

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I gotta say this though that despite everything George has a really good eye for casting attractive leads. Absolutely no reason for Obi-Wan to look that young and well-proportioned but he instinctively knew that the miracle of film is is capturing beautiful people doing things.

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"the prequels can't have been poorly received! there was prequels merchandise EVERYWHERE!"

Begging people to recognize what aggressive marketing by huge blockbuster franchises are meant to do

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Related to prev but thibking about how the Zygerria arc in TCW was an attempt at making a "pulpy" adventure setting and all the fucking Ep. VI echoes it does makes me so mad. It's Jabba's palace but much much worse because it's shafted on to the TCW protagonists without any actual weight to their characters and arcs.

This is why I believe even trying to capture Lucas' own version of shit he liked is a lost cause because you get jarring as fuck tonal shifts like these where Anakin is appropriately angry about slavery but is also willing to play slave master?

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I'm always ready to shit on the prequels because I'm tired of seeing huge swaths of people pretend that it doesn't commit like dozens of storytelling crimes every movie

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You know I kind of admire people who say with their whole chest that they only care about the first six movies and that the only content that should actually matter is within those 15ish hours because I cannot find a more miserable way to enjoy a franchise as large and diverse in story and medium as this one.

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And I cannnn't i cannn't stop thinking about the difference in storytelling between the Ep. VI opener with Luke negotiating with Jabba vs. the way we're "re-introduced" to Obi-Wan and Anakin in AoTC.

Both feature time skips that show the characters' progression since we last saw them but one of them lets us see, without exposition from Luke or his allies, how he has matured using a stranger (Jabba's) perspective while the other puts us right where said characters are and use blithering contextless dialogue to tell us how we were supposed to think about them.

The opportunity to use Padmé's POV is right there! The opening scenes are of her decoy's assassination! The movie should have more faith in us being able to read the changes in Anakin and Obi-Wan's character by sticking us to Padmé and naturally feel the reveal of the timeskip alongside her.

And sticking to Padmé's POV would have made Anakin's private ranting about Obi-Wan stand out more! It would have made us sympathetic to the amount of emotion he reserves when he's trying to be a Jedi! It's such an enormous disconnect from audiences when they feel like Obi-Wan is the right one because we spend too much time with Anakin falling over himself.

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prequel glazers will defend the movies' script by insisting that it is meant to sound like an old adventure serial but also it's "Shakespearean dialogue".

Besides the fact that people are grossly misusing the word 'Shakespearean' it's plain that they don't actually sure what style of writing George was going for since his character dialogue is really that bad.