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#finally got around to making a pinned post

For all the ship art I make, I still need to improve on my ability to draw boats.

#foreshadowing

Aren't white spy and black spy basically the same people...? Like TF2 characters on RED or BLU?

I am not well versed enough for this discourse.

Yes, essentially! On a surface level, the spies are intended to be seen as basically the same. That's integral to the message behind it all.

Which is why it's strange that people, with only surface-level knowledge of SvS, often make those assumptions that would completely upend that.

If one delves deeper into the actual comics, one will find that the spies *do* have their own little intricacies. They *are* individual characters (at least, in the original run). Yet at the end of the day, they're still equals. They're each other's match. Despite their subtle differences, the point remains the same.

#ace's answers #I don't know if this can really be considered “discourse” as much as it is mostly just me venting.#But thank you so much for sending this ask! I hope this explains things well enough.

dueling-jesters

Okay somewhat of a serious post

If you like cis man Black Spy x trans man White Spy, please block me. I am not kidding.

I've been pretty transparent as to why this makes me deeply uncomfortable and why it has transphobic connotations that cannot be carefully worked through as opposed to the opposite, so I don't feel the need to explain myself anymore.

dueling-jesters

"Is White Spy female?"

"Isn't the White Spy a girl?"

"I always thought White Spy was a woman"

"White Spy is so feminine!"

"Black is more physically violent and stronger, White is more clever"

Straight couples Halloween costumes usually involving the man as Black and the woman as White...

I'm so tired.

#ace's vents #to be clear i'm not complaining about most people in the fandom #usually it's from people with only vague knowledge of spy vs spy existing.#but it sucks because. as much as one can do to discuss the characters and analyze their actual portrayals. people make assumptions.#it always sheds a light on underlying social expectations and stereotypes.#and the trans white x cis black thing? feels inherently transphobic for these reasons alongside others.#stupid fucking wedding color scheme gender roles bullshit #idk if i'll delete this later or not. I'm just. frustrated.#To be clear nothing has like. just happened or anything! It was on my mind for unrelated reasons. And I was reminded of my frustrations.#you never hear people asking if Black Spy is female. Only time people made it het with Black as the woman was with an intentional genderbend #What makes people think White is “a woman” and Black isn't? What's up with that??

Flipping through the Omnibus, I noticed how frequent White Spy's losses involved foot injury.

I also realized that, in some comics, White is *also* drawn with striped socks. Black just happens to be depicted with them more often.

What I've come to conclude is that White Spy steals Black Spy's socks as a form of revenge, hoping to slowly drive him mad over it!

#spy vs spy #black spy #white spy #may add scans to show examples at a later point

I've never put anything like these together before, so this is an exciting little project to work on!

Side note: These are not yet completed, nor are they all there is to this special little project. I've been wanting to do something like this for years!

Also, before anyone asks, I am not selling these, sorry :( They're only for personal use.

#spy vs spy #black spy #white spy #spy x spy #i'm excited to continue working on these and eventually share with you all something i've wanted to make for YEARS

dueling-jesters

Okay somewhat of a serious post

If you like cis man Black Spy x trans man White Spy, please block me. I am not kidding.

I've been pretty transparent as to why this makes me deeply uncomfortable and why it has transphobic connotations that cannot be carefully worked through as opposed to the opposite, so I don't feel the need to explain myself anymore.

#reblogging this because someone posted the transphobic predator's porn on the svs tag. apparently people keep finding it on r-3-4.#Which means the general public looking for cartoon porn stumble across THAT when they look for svs porn.#I'm fuming right now. I feel sick.

dueling-jesters

Also, on a different note, I think I can speak on behalf of this fan community that pedophiles, child predators, transphobes, etc. are not welcome here and will never be welcome back here. Especially if you used this community in the past to be transphobic and prey on kids.

dueling-jesters

I had this in the tags but y'know what... I'll add it here:

dueling-jesters

#reblogging because apparently people keep finding her shit on the r- 3 - 4 website. i hate this.#sharing the tags from my previous blog because they're serious.

White Spy brings his large package to Black Spy, letting his rival have it. Black Spy cries tears of joy over White Spy's long rod before getting struck between the legs.

Am I reading this correctly?

#spy vs spy #black spy #white spy #spy x spy

Went through some of the comics to get a few quick phone scans for something and realized in a few instances how... lovingly? Black Spy stares at White Spy.

Dude why are you looking at him like that?

I also took notice of another detail, which I have to assume was unintentional, but I need you all to see what I'm seeing here:

It's obviously a Welcome mat, and established as such in a previous panel, and yet... I'm reading "WED ME".

It's obviously not intended to be read that way at all, yet the way Black Spy's watching his rival in tandem with that convenient covering of letters to make it appear so...

I swear these spies give me cute aggression.

#spy vs spy #black spy #white spy #spy x spy

White Spy finds rolls of these labels and sticks 'em onto Black Spy's back at-random when he's not paying attention.

#spy vs spy #white spy #black spy #spy x spy #sort of. up to interpretation!#after operation dog i think it would become a running thing that white spy pokes at black spy over

full-time-fujoshi

https://archiveofourown.org/works/76603676/chapters/221189081

@littledragonettes Finally finished the chapter with your OC cameo! I hope you like it!

@dueling-jesters ☺️

#reblog #!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#giggling kicking my feet in the air #thank you for improving upon my day tenfold OP #everyone must read common ground NOW

chokingonunluckyclovers

So I Saw @dueling-jesters's post about the spy vs spy shirts and The worm in my brain told me what i must do.

i gave each a different style of crop top becuase I felt like it.

also dont mind the poses i couldn't think of anyhting creative.

#reblog #YES I LOVE THEMMM #The differentiation is a really nice touch!

spectrohyena

Back onto my Spy vs Spy fixation posting, I want to mention this one comic that I haven't seen anyone else talk about where the spies just randomly had kids

I LOVE THEM HJFNFJJGM IM SO MATERNAL TOWARDS THEM <3 <3 <3 AHSJSH AHHHHGH 😭😭😭

#reblog #in my hc this is dot and dash. i'm choosing to ignore the fact that the White Spy child doesn't have a mole. shhhhhhhh #could be a variety if scenarios. Their children. Family members. Clones.#Maybe their factions decided to experiment and try to train spies starting from childhood. These could be random kids.#Morse Twins

Do you have a discord?

I'm sure you mean well, anon, but due to privacy concerns I don't use discord for fandom puposes! If you would like to message me, my DM's *should* be open, currently! (Hopefully. I've had someone tell me they weren't able to, but I have the proper settings to allow for it.)

Perhaps this will be subject to change in the future, but as it stands, I don't communicate with other fans via discord!

#ace's answers #thank you for asking though!#adding an additional tag because now you have me wondering anon #is there a particular reason why you ask this?#ive heard some good things about one or two active servers. idk if there are more but.#as lovely as the community probably is on them i don't think i can currently get myself to use discord to engage in fandom activities #i like to keep things mostly public unless people want to get to know me a little more personally