How do you make a patch? You don't have to make it public if you don't want to. Or at least, redirect me to somewhere I can learn.
oh gee this blog is still relevant i used a program called patch maker.
have the original program + files in one folder, the patched / altered version in another. i think the program runs through the prompts when you do it? yeah
man there’s a lot of things i should be doing in regards to modding hell
> or in just short: there’s lots of things i’d want to do
examples of things i should be doing
> rohan mod (mono...)
> maybe a steel mod because then i can actually write then-
> also because of that last analysis i did yes yes
> a mod where all dialog is replaced entirely by the bee movie script
mmm i sure do love picking apart a game and over analysing everything
like character motives too mmm that’s the good shit
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it’s seventh stand user shitposting etri please stop already
tl;dr explanation:
gray morality: confirmed. also steel’s p manipulative ]
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
the thing about seventh stand user is that the ‘good forces’ ingame can be considered pretty subjective. ( this isn’t in regards to part three & more towards the original storylines
would you call it grey morality? i think that’s the right term for it
it really depends on how you look at it.
but look, how does your protagonist join the Joestar Gang? well
> they were manipulated into it. y’know, by steel, right at the start of the game, and he’s fully aware of the possible dangers (ie. death) and the mental trauma gained by getting somebody else involved. sure, it’s all for the ‘greater good’ in the end, but he’s manipulating a teenager to serve his own ends, no matter how good they are
kid’s got their whole life ahead of them, and by doing this you’re subjecting them to the very real risk of...y’know, losing it all. death ain’t something to be toyed with, y’know?
as pointed out here. he knew what kind of shit protag’s gonna get into from the get go. if you want to check, it’s the dev room explaination.
additionally, the protagonist has no beef with dio. no reason to go fight him, because he never did anything to them in the first place. hell, the protagonist even mentions towards the end that the whole ‘dio’ thing had nothing to do with them.
sure, holly’s sickness may have tugged a heartstring and could have been partially the reason why the protagonist went ( if you play your protag as a sympathetic person ), but the beginning of the game could also been a driving point to go
steel said something along the lines of
“if you leave dio to his own devices, your friends and family will be at risk.”
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it’s a lie because he knows the plot already and thus fully aware that dio never leaves egypt. ( actually, that whole introduction is pretty manipulative... even protag goes ‘alright seriously why should i get involved with something this dangerous this isn’t my problem’ )
destiny? rubbish, really
protag was never supposed to join the crew, so you can’t call that destiny.
as for gaining a stand in the first place, that’s a coincidence?
said coincidence is also steel’s fault but that could be considered ‘accidental’
( protag’s stand is implied to be arrow induced, caused by a fragment of the arrow piercing them? if you want to check, it’s the abandoned house in japan. y’know it’s steel because the notes mention dan penn but that isn’t important here )
but, the sole purpose of the protagonist going to egypt, the reason why steel pushed them into this, is to destroy dio’s journal. it’s not directly stated, but implied because the joestar crew can handle killing dio just fine, even with a few...losses at the end.
and why are they sent? to change destiny, the reason involved that could be considered rather selfish...? it’s to undo the weird time shit (ie. characters from all parts present in part 3 fangame ), which in all honesty isn’t that bad. there’s no implication that the universe is going to collapse on themselves if this continues, and additionally... really they just want to go back to their own time
> they’re also the only ones seemly aware of this? there’s no sense of confusion when you talk to the other canon characters so
plus, vins only reason to use hanoi rocks was to save her son?
sure, that’s pretty selfish as well and the shit she does to achieve that goal is very much questionable and fucked up( plus it would’ve fucked up part 6 if it happened ) but
> not going to go into observer stuff / vins in detail tbh.
no 2000 word essay today kids i don’t have the energy to go there too
mmm, so really nobody is truely in the right here when it comes to the original story line
with all this, this also justifies the dark side ending...
because hey, the variations to the last words to steel
protag:
"Shut up.
You're the evil ghost who lured me into this whole
situation."
protag:
"Shut up!
This is all your fault in the first place!"
( there’s more but these stand out )
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
you’re a teenager, you’ve been manipulated to do something that has nothing to do with you and when you reach the end, when you’re questioning everything, why did you risk your life for this...there’s a real chance of lashing out at the one thing, the one source of all the problems...?
dio may be aware of that ( aware that protag has no issue with him ) and take advantage of that if protag hesitates towards the end ( @ the stairs / ending split ) because he’s dio. of course he would do so at the chance if it gives him upper hand at destroying the joestars. plus, dio had never any beef with them in the first place (repeating but) the whole assassins after them is justifiable because? dude you’re out to kill him, of course he’ll send people after you, what did you expect, kid )
( additionally, there’s also the possibility that: the protagonist was never supposed to get involved in the first place in this fashion and the stand arrow piercing them was just a coincidence.
steel was in japan at the time before he got murdered
the possibility that originally, he was going to get involved himself and join the trip is a very real possibility. ( plus, out of the whole heart/mind/soul trio, steel has the most...uh, combat ready stand. his stand is hands. hands can punch. think of the hana hana no mi devil fruit that shit could come in useful because that shit swarms )
> or something. it’s not implied but. he was in japan prior to being killed, so...
and the protagonist joining the crew was because
> no other choice in the matter now. he’s dead, can’t do much while he’s dead
> what else can ya do there’s no other way time to get this unrelated teenager involved
and lets not go into on how they could’ve just contacted the joestars and tell them to destroy the book when they get there. ( sure vins may have prepared for that, but y’know )
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it’s fun ( & interesting ) to think about tbh
Updated patch with some bug fixes (ahem how did I even miss the game breaking ones) and added a .rar version of the patch to the v0.01a post.
> I’m no good at bug testing.
“I’d feel like it’ll be an insult to even call this an alpha ver”
hello naughty children it’s rohan time \(^q^)/
( in all seriousness, please help me test this )
disclaimer:
this mod is not associated or endorsed by clayman in any shape of form.
patch notes:
playable rohan!
> walksprites, stand sprites, they’re all here kids
> even one special one for all the sinners here :^)
> mostly complete moveset
(besides attack dialog weeps)
custom dialog for the beginning of the game ( thanks mono ! )
( to be rewritten later probably? it’s just an edit of the default atm... )
what this doesn’t include is:
literally everything else is untouched so far
the game is playable past the first boss fight,
however there’s no custom dialog beyond that point and there’s no guarantee how stable the game is past that point. since vanilla 7su is pretty stable, I’m going to assume it’ll at least play until the ending...which then I’m predicting it’ll crash and burn spectacularly
(if you get to cairo, seriously don’t go and fight dio.)
releasing this mainly for balance testing in battles. all skills are already learnt and the debug equipment can be found next to the tv.
but what I would really appreciate is that if you can give feedback!
so. please tell me: how broken is rohan? do I have to nerf him? that kind of stuff ( so please go around and whack enemies :^) )
my submit can be found here.
send any issues / critiques /ect, ect there please.
ask is also open.
download link is here. ( should be fixed. )
.rar patch is here ( patch contents of individual folders inside to respective folders, everything else just copy and replace in the main 7thjojo folder.)
the patch comes as an .exe file. back up your 7su files beforehand, I am not responsible if rpgmaker decides to delete all your saves.
also please patch it to the most recent version of 7su ( v2.48a )
alright hello i’m back
> and back to mod shitposting (well, at least....getting something done)
> seeing that mod has reminded me that hey, etri.
weren’t you working on something
things that i should finish:
finalize moveset.
> putting it off since forever gg etri
also...add in coding for bunny suit switch. because bunny suit.
because hilarity. because i didn’t spend one or two hours spriting that for nothing
> thinking of more alternate sprite sets but that’s probably overdoing it...
> if someone has suggestions throw them at me
probably rewrite introduction dialog? or tweak? mm i can rewrite i can do that
facesprites? i think i tried to give this a shot before but then i got distracted so well
mmm what else
draft up dialog?
think of potential events...?
also endings too still gotta figure that out
besides that, after i finish the stuff i should finish....
> maybe a demo version yes yes
> mainly for balance testing
shitpost hell is feeling surreal with all these characters
i mean it’s just
> the first few vanilla 7su ocs that went off the rails
> actual original ocs adapted for this
> consisting of a demon (?), an eldrich abomination and a...ordinary kid ( and more)
> kakyoin was confirmed
> and if modding hell is confirmed, well
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