The concept of ChatGPT telling Finn that this is how Mike should behave after Will got his powers.

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The concept of ChatGPT telling Finn that this is how Mike should behave after Will got his powers.
If you could change ONE thing in the ST finale⦠whatās your pick? šš
Saying Byler was never hinted at is wild. You canāt seriously expect me to believe that out of thousands of clues, not even two were real.
Iām just going to say this because I think itās important. Sometimes, our own fandom unintentionally fuels a lot of the mockery aimed at the idea of Byler endgame. Iām not sure why a fellow Byler would send a message to a well-known person basically framing us as ādelusionalā for believing it could happen. Itās completely fine to have doubts for valid reasons, but itās frustrating when some in the fandom seem to jump at any excuse to dismiss Byler just because the Duffers havenāt explicitly confirmed it.
"OH MILEVEN HAVE SCENES TOGETHER" --> BYLER DOUBT
"OH MIKE AND EL DON'T FIGHT" --> BYLER DOUBT
"AN ACTOR DOESN'T REACT THE WAY YOU WANT TO BYLER" --> BYLER DOUBT
"NETFLIX STILL PROMOTES MILEVEN" --> BYLER DOUBT.
like stand the fuck up! U guys have at least 10 solid proofs and y all worry about details. Basically you will always have Byler doubts until you get a proof that it is endgame which you won't get until the end of the season so either take a step back from the fandom to rest a bit or deal with that fact !
"Leakers" have really gone off the rails. At least before Season 5, some of them tried to sound credible. Now itās just random people making up fake Byler or Mileven āleaks,ā to the point where the big trend right now is someone pretending to know about Mileven doing you-know-what just to rile up Bylers. Iām not sure what the average age in this fandom is, but this is honestly pathetic.
If you are tired of dealing with ship wars then idk focus on smth else until you get proofs of what you are claiming is correct.
What the actual.........!!!!!!!
"If Byler isnāt endgame, donāt bother explaining why. it wonāt matter. I know what I saw on my screen. Just rewrite the show."
ā A disillusioned fan with eyes wide open
Y all can say whatever you want but the most obvious Byler proof for a straight person is this one because it's clear, no subtext, ... Just a clear parallel between Mike and Dustin:
Honestly, I donāt understand why some people think Byler canāt happen if Mike and El kiss in Season 5.
Weāre watching Stranger Things, a show where relationships shift all the time. Characters hook up in one episode and break up the next, only to be involved with someone else later on (just look at Nancy, Steve, and Jonathan). So please donāt come into my asks saying you doubt Byler just because of the possibility of a Mileven kiss.
First of all, itās not confirmed. And even if it does happen, we have zero context.was it real? A vision? A goodbye? What happened after? A kiss alone doesnāt define the endgame. Even if itās genuine, that doesnāt mean Mileven is meant to be.
For real.
I just want to point out that if Finn, even as a young director, didnāt understand Mikeās reaction in the van scene , especially considering what follows with the monologue and felt the need to speak to the Duffer brothers about it, that says a lot. It suggests he sensed the scene would come across as simply cruel if Byler wasnāt going to lead anywhere. I wouldn't even be surprised if Finn tried to change the van script a bit and got told to stick to what was written.
FINN IS A GOOD DIRECTOR!!!!
The ST costume designer everybody. šššš:
Something my dad said to me:
āI never see the straight community declaring a gay character is really straight and then try to speak it into existence. But I see the gay community do it over and over and then run with theories until they believe the stuff they made up.ā
Yāall see why I complain about him now š? Save me, Iām a Byler in a Mileven household. Heās said worse stuff regarding Mike but damn bro. Itās almost like the show is dangling it on a stick in front of us. People talk about how they save Mileven comments to come back and ask stuff like āyou were saying?ā Imma be that way to my dad. I may not even say anything, I have two reasons for wanting Byler endgame. The main reason is because I genuinely love them. The second reason is to be proven right because I despise this āgay people make every straight character gayā mindset
And itās weird because he says shit like that but then say heās not homophobic and heāll be like āmy feelings towards fictional media isnāt my feelings towards youā but yes the fuck it is. Itās the same damn concept. If youāre saying this shit about the community Iām in, you ARE talking to me. I donāt think heās overall homophobic. But he says stuff like this and it pisses me off and itās why I never talk to him about any lgbtq related topics.
Tbh I think heās actually my biggest source of Byler doubt. He always gaslights me into doubt tbh š.
As a straight person, I can tell that sometimes straight people tend to say stuffs like that. Now whether it's homophobia or simply criticizing a behavior, you can't really tell cause most of the times it just means the person is annoyed of a behavior a community has but respects the community.it's like when you hear a straight person saying:"why do gay people make their whole personality about their sexuality".I think your dad simply wants you to stop mentioning Byler to him a lot of times cause not only he doesn't care but he doesn't believe it will happen.
Byler and Nancy are so different. Yet, they parallel each other so much. At this point if the Duffers don't make Byler canon, it means they queerbaited their audience on purpose:
The following video was posted by @lcveaedit on Tiktok. It points out more Jancy-Byler parallels
People : Why Byler would be queerbaiting if it doesn't happen ?
Me : idk ask the ST writer who posted this and those who protected on the streets using a panel mentioning Byler knowing that it will make noise.
Aww Milevens must find Eddie's monologue to Dustin so romantic I guess š«£š
Say that you don't ship mileven without explicitly saying it :
1. Caleb
2. Gabriella
3. Finn
Said *you wish * and rolled his eyes after Millie said that she wanted El and Mike to get Married
4. Mattew
5. Noah
If you ever have doubts about Byler, ask yourself two questions:
1. Are your doubts influenced by others? Are you questioning it because many people are either doubting it themselves or making you feel crazy for believing? If so, remember that these doubts genrally come from external noise, not the show or its creators. Some people project their fears of queerbaiting due to their experience with other projects onto Stranger Things, or they're frustrated by the possibility of Byler happening and find satisfaction in your uncertainty. Donāt let their reactions cloud your judgment.
2. Are your doubts about the Duffersā intentions? Are you worried because the Duffers havenāt made it explicit yet, and you fear they might pivot back to Mileven? Keep in mind, you donāt invest time and money into subtle but consistent hints if your goal is to queerbait. If Byler werenāt endgame, the Duffers would likely have steered the actors away from promoting it and wouldāve leaned into Milevenās "endgame" narrative by now.
Lastly, remember that no one can dictate what you should or shouldnāt ship. Youāre free to enjoy Byler, even if it doesnāt become canon. Having high hopes is fine, but try to keep expectations grounded. You're not delusionalāyouāre simply paying closer attention than most fans. ā¤ļø
Saving this in case I need it one day