rip my interest in this show

lise, 20, norway/california skam owns my ass i would give my life for sana bakkoush chris berg needs more love

[evalienmohn]

i'm gonna disappear for a lil while

hey y'all, this may is pretty much the busiest month of my entire life so far, and thus, other than continuing some of my translation work for skam, i'll be taking a hiatus from tumblr until the end of may, possibly even early june. my dash is also increasingly negative with all the recent fandom grossness, and it's unfortunately getting in the way of my enjoyment of the show. here's to hoping it's better when i get back! i love you all, i hope you enjoy the season, and i'll see you in a month 💜

[butcheleven-old-deactivated2019]

i just want to take this opportunity to remind everyone that when an interviewer asked julie point blank if vilde was a lesbian her official response was “no comment”

[emmanette]

[closetlesbianvilde]

a timeline of vilde realizing she’s a lesbian and subsequently shoving that part of her way down deep

or: how i imagine the situation might look like from her pov and what might have been going through her head from s1 to now

–> vilde hyperfixates on willhelm but isn’t actually attracted to him, just interested in him because he’s popular and she craves attention/validation but she doesn’t get turned on by the thought of him, says she doesn’t get turned on by anything in fact (except makeup and clothes apparently), feels the need to get herself drunk to go through having sex with him and says she’d be relieved if he didn’t show up, later tells noora that she was relieved not have to worry about how he felt about her anymore (again: she was only ever interested in the idea of him) 

–> vilde becomes obssessed with the idea that noora is hiding a secret girlfriend and is a lesbian, constantly brings it up, and in reference to asking noora if she’s a lesbian and having the girls laugh at her question she gets upset and says “it’s not weird that i think so, you never talk about boys or sex!” (hmmm…), maybe like…testing the waters a little bit, it’s a thought at the back of her mind that won’t leave her alone and she needs to express it somehow

–> eva kisses vilde at a party, and it’s like this hyper-careful bubble she’s constructed around her (not even intentionally) bursts – someone is kissing her, a girl is kissing her and she’s enjoying it, she’s getting really into it, she’s turned on by it and she’s shown to be really enjoying it (so much so that she kisses eva again at later parties), later we overhear her saying “the feelings that arise don’t necessarily mean you’re [translation: “i’m sort of freaking out that i felt something i haven’t felt before when kissing my close friend, who is a girl, but it doesn’t mean that i’m a lesbian, it can’t” because tbh she’s trying to convince herself] “what feelings?” “turned on!” even thought she said in s1 that “nothing turns her on”

–> maybe this is where she starts really questioning her feelings, evaluates how she feels about girls vs. guys, starts to wonder if she might be a lesbian after all, maybe starts to fall a little for (or at least feel attracted to) eva, starts to get butterflies in her stomach whenever they touch, starts to laugh a little too loud at her jokes, and maybe starts to indulge in those fantasies a little, what it would be like to just stop trying to hold up a certain image and just follow that nagging feeling in her gut

–> eva starts making out with penetrator chris at parties again, and in first ep of s3 vilde goes looking for her, finds them making out and seems very upset/disappointed

–> maybe she starts to feel guilty for having those thoughts about her best friend in the first place and mad at herself for indulging those fantasies, because that can’t be her, she can’t be gay, so she starts retreating back into her image and then conveinently another boy (magnus) starts showing interest in her, and he’s someone new she can focus on/hide behind

–> we don’t see her a lot in s3, but even with magnus she’s so confused/terrified of this part of her she’s really starting to question that she’s not really thinking about/talking about boys a lot and maybe the image still starts to slip a little

–> fastforward to end of s3, chris accuses vilde of being jealous of her because she’s “not getting any dick,” and vilde immediately get’s defensive (”i get plenty of dick!” when we know she doesn’t), suddenly magnus appears with “i’ve never fucked and i wanna fuck” and vilde jumps at the opportunity (“you can fuck me”) because she’s panicking that the girls will jump to the same conclusion she did with noora in s2 (”you could be a lesbian, you never talk about boys or sex!”) because she realizes she hasn’t been, not enough, not as much as she thinks girls who like boys are supposed to

–> cue vilde in s4, being absolutely insufferable with her relationship with magnus, talking about sex all the time and shoving it in everyone’s faces (even though it sounds off/forced and some of the stuff she says about sex seems like she doesn’t actually know what she’s talking about), desperate to make sure they don’t see what she’s really hiding, even though that part of her is still there, just shoved way way way down deep 

–> pls just let her be a lesbian, set her freeeee ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[skamedits]

isakyaki Before or after?

[allminetherainbow]

Okay, so I made a video. This is why I think Vilde is gay (among a whole lot other reasons!). I do not mention compulsory heterosexuality in the video because it’s too complex to explain in just a few words. But you can look it up here. And really, there is so much that point to it. 

[tarjeisandvikmoe]

It’s not even been a month since Sana’s season started and what I’ve seen out of this fandom is nothing but straight up ignorance and hatred, and I’m so fucking sick of it.

This is not the fandom I joined last November.

We don’t attack each other for our opinions. We sure as hell listen when someone tells us we’re wrong and attempts to educate us. We grow from our mistakes and we learn together, but some of you literally won’t fucking learn.

Season Three wasn’t a walk in the park. There were ugly fetishizers. There were people who shipped Tarjei and Henrik. There was plenty of ableism. The level of straight up islamophobia, ableism, biphobia, lesbophobia, transphobia, overall anti LGBTQ+ sentiment some of y’all have going on, and the abuse apologizing that I’ve seen across my dash these past few weeks is fucking astounding. 

How can you watch this show that is attempting to educate you and make you a better person and not come out of it leaving with a more broad scope of the world and be more accepting? How can you not sit and at least attempt to learn someone else’s point of view? 

I’m not a Muslim, but there are people in this fandom who are. They fucking deserve your respect, and their opinions hold more weight than any of ours could ever dream of having. If you cannot understand that Islam is a religion of peace and acceptance and have an issue with it, just leave. You aren’t wanted here. We don’t care about your opinion of what Islam is and isn’t. I’m a Christian, and I am not vilified for the mistakes of my religion and the hatred and ignorance that has stemmed from it in the past. I will not allow you to sit and do the same to Muslims. Respect the opinions of Muslims in this fandom. Don’t speak over them. When they say you’ve said something wrong own up to it and fucking apologize. Grow up and learn from your mistakes. Be a better person. It’s all you can do. 

The ableism I’ve seen is gross. It’s disgusting. Disabled and mentally ill people are fucking human beings who have feelings. There’s no argument there. Even is not his disorder. Even is a human being with a personality who has likes and dislikes who just happens to have a mental illness. That illness doesn’t define him, and it’s not cause for you to hate him. He’s not a fucking liar. He’s allowed to feel shameful for what his illness has caused him to do in the past. He doesn’t have to share it with Isak. Even is his own person, and Isak is his own as well. Don’t expect Even to reveal his darkest secrets to Isak when not even Isak would discuss the first half of first year with Even. Even is allowed to have secrets. That doesn’t make him manipulative. So many of us in this fandom are mentally ill, and this shit hurts us. The asks concerning all of this stuff can physically hurt. The way you say things can literally be life or death for some people. Don’t say ableist shit. 

The level of rude asks and opinions thrown towards LGBTQ+ individuals in this fandom is inexcusable. I know it’s a shock, but people are allowed to make everything gay. Everything can literally be fucking gay. If you don’t like it, get over it. I’ve consumed heteronormative media since the day I was born. You can handle a few headcanons on your dash about why Vilde is a lesbian. You don’t have to think she’s a lesbian. No one is forcing you to acknowledge that Vilde is a lesbian. You do you. If you think she’s bi or pan, that’s great, but you don’t have the right to go into someone’s ask and tell them they’re wrong for thinking Vilde is a lesbian. So many of you are clearly lesbophobic, and it’s funny considering you’re screaming “Evak! My small soft gay babies!” the next second. We don’t have to have permission to hc characters as gay. It’s not your fucking place to tell someone who’s trans/nb that “Isak doesn’t look trans” when they hc Isak as trans. If they want Isak Valtersen to be a fucking trans boy, they can. It’s not hurting you. All it’s doing is exposing your level of transphobia. We’re allowed to project our sexualities onto characters. If you have an issue with it, you’re homophobic, and you need to grow up and educate yourself. 

Another issue: biphobia. Some of y’all just really love vilifying Even don’t you? You really want to see him fuck up, and it’s exhausting. Even isn’t going to cheat on Isak. He’s not gonna fall in love with Mikael and ride off into the sunset with him. Isak and Even are in this thing called life together. Isak goes down with Even in that s4 trailer. They both love and support each other. Can’t you use your own eyes and see and respect that? You don’t have to fall back on old harmful stereotypes to fuel drama or have opinions. Even is in love with Isak. Respect that and acknowledge it. 

Lastly, today marked the return of our old pal William. William, who it was revealed literally made Noora feel bad after Nico. William who manipulated Noora onto their first date. William who shows abusive tendencies. There are no redeeming factors for William as a character. You can like William. I’m not going to sit here and say you can’t, but you cannot excuse his actions. You can’t sit and say he was okay when he manipulated Noora. You cannot say his actions towards her in London were in any way okay. You shouldn’t fucking defend him. Acknowledge that he’s messed up. After you’ve done that, if you really want to like a character who’s like that be my guest I guess. Abuse is so fucking serious. 

William is a manipulative person with abusive tendencies. Don’t compare him to Isak, Even, or Jonas. All 3 of them? They fucking grew. They learned from their mistakes, and they expressed regret over them. They apologized for them. William can’t even send Noora a fucking text message. Isak, Even, and Jonas literally don’t even deserve to have their names in a paragraph with William. Isak, Even, and Jonas are what every single one of us should be like. We all have fucked up and said shit when we were uneducated, but like them, we have to take responsibility and grow up and learn to be better people. 

Skam fandom, do better. Be better.

You are better. I know you are. 

Take a second before you send someone an ask and think about what you’re really saying. If you make a mistake, apologize and learn. Never stop trying to grow and learn and become educated. We stop progressing the second we let hate and ignorance dictate our thoughts. 

[bloonstuff]

It sort of bothers me that they used Noora not being able to testify against Nico as a plot device to break No*rhelm up. Like, they took this very real issue and important issue in cases like this wherein people never get justice because of the fear of testifying and made it a small plot side plot to facilitate No*rhelm breaking up. Made it all about how William feels about Noora.

I understand it happens, people report and cannot follow through but I feel like it just undermined one of the most important aspects of S2. One of the most inspiring and powerful aspects of S2.

I feel like it’s the same sloppy writing that saw Emma out Isak for the sake of the wider plot, then ignored how not okay and serious it is. 

[isaks-even]

i realized why we never see jonas and mahdi anymore… bc they just physically can’t be in the same room with vilde/magnus 

[gansevy]

to the people calling isak an ableist and a homophobe: did you even watch season 3??? where the storyline was about him dealing with internalized homophobia and the fucking climax of the season was him reconnecting with his mentally ill mother and accepting even, a bipolar boy who he was in love with, into his life making him know that he was not alone?? isak said some dumb shit, yes. but he was called out on it. he listened and he learned from it. the narrative never glorified his actions.

[martajones]

You don’t judge your friends, and you stand up for them no matter what.

[bechnaesun-deactivated20210325]

i want to give a shout out to all my mutuals who are dealing with homophobic assholes right now. y'all are so brave for weathering through this - i know i would’ve just slammed my computer shut. please remember that you can step away if you need to. educating the straights is emotional labor you did not consent to!! take care of yourself first - this fandom can fucking burn.

also @ all the said homophobic assholes: vilde’s 🖕a 🖕 lesbian 🖕

[usertoxicyaoi]

people in the fandom who suffer from mi: *said from the start they knew even was mi bc they could relate and saw the signs.* gross people in the fandom: “STOP PROJECTING!!!” canon: *even has bipolar disorder.*

muslims as well as people who like to analyse in the fandom: *connected all the dots about the hints being dropped in s3 about even and islam.* gross people in the fandom: “FGS NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ABOUT MUSLIMS. EVEN’S NOT INTERESTED IN ISLAM YOU’RE JUST READING TOO MUCH INTO SHIT!!” canon: *even is so invested in islam that he’s not only got sketches of a hijaabi woman on his wardrobe in his room, but went so far as to learn the qur’aan in arabic, and has muslim friends too which all connected to his deep interest in islam.*

even and sana enthusiasts in the fandom, based off religious beliefs: *said from the start even and sana were connected and saw all the links between them through islam in canon.* gross people in the fandom: “LOLZ DELUSIONAL PEOPLE BE REACHING SO HARD THEY’RE GONNA CRY TEARS!!!!” canon: *even and sana have known each other all along all this time.*

people that in the fandom who relate to vilde: *are saying with personal experience that they can tell vilde is a lesbian.* gross people in the fandom: *SHE’S BI!” “SHE’S HAPPY WITH MAGNUS!” “FFS SHE’S STRAIGHT GET UR LESBIANISM AWAY FROM HERE!!!!* canon: …………….. i mean, do y’all gross people really wanna go up against being proven wrong when people with experience have time and time again been right?

in short, when people who have personal experiences are telling you they can relate to a character and their situation, and can pick up the signs, you shut up, sit down, and you listen to their valid reasoning.

[skamenglish]

SKAM S04E03 (English)

[evakskam]

[boxesfullofthoughts]

Some mornings, Even will untangle himself from Isak completely, rolling out of bed to make breakfast. More often, he will try, and Isak will hold tight, and Even will stay, chuckling to himself and murmuring about octopi. These are the mornings Isak prefers, the ones where he can stare at Even’s face until he slips back into sleep or curl into him, every part of himself warm and safe. - evak, ~1.1k, fluff

[skamenglish]

SKAM 4.03 Clip 5 - I Judge No One (English Sub)