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Sometimes knowing spoilers for shows is more fun cause u get to spend the show being like how the fuck does that even end up happening ..
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the drawing room scene is so insane to me. not just the fact that everything fades away when benedict and sophie see each other plus the whole tea debacle and the argument, but also the fact that benedict is subconsciously thinking of sophie as the lady in silver the whole time.
why is he talking about swimming in a LAKE when trying to figure out if miss hollis is the lady in silver. he asks her if she speaks french, which has nothing to do with the masquerade/LiS but has everything to do with sophie! he brings up the conversation in the library about his pronounciation!
benedict can't keep sophie out of his mind and it shows in his words and his actions. he's constantly associating her with what happened at the masquerade! it's almost like in his heart, he KNOWS
someone said they feel like benedict doesn’t realize sophie is the lady in silver because he's not thinking about the lady in silver whenever she is around therefore he can’t recognize her AND I CAN’T STOP THINKING ABOUT THAT
Benedict Bridgerton + literally itching for Sophie Baek
I think I've spoken so much about walker already but to me on re watch it's just so funny that when the topic of ST S5 comes up, he's so quick to initiate the stancy enthusiasm, and implying that stancy was the main thing he was looking forward to in S5, he wasn't even asked about who he shipped or the triangle, he was asked about steve/dustin. twin just wanted to air out the laundry about his ship since everyone else seemed to pretend like they didn't exist LOL
In your opinion how and when could Nancy and Steve get back together in the 90s?
Well we have a bucket load of unresolved feelings, two characters who can't help the fondness from oozing out of them when they're in each other's vicinity, and a monthly meet-up on our hands, so I'd say something like this:
Group hangouts where they can't stop finding each other's eyes across the room, sneaking little looks at every opportunity. Steve always makes Nancy laugh, of course. They're not subtle about how much yearning is stretched out between them. When they're around each other, there's the feeling of two people hanging on the precipe of something; they just need to find the courage to jump off. Robin and Jonathan get to the point where they're exchanging looks like, "Can you believe these two?" Lots of eye rolling. They can see the inevitable outcome these two idiots can't.
And of course Nancy gets Steve's number, and after she calls with a question one day, they start talking regularly, in between meet-ups. Calls that start from the most mundane check-up questions spiral into the late hours of the night, Nancy lying on the bed of her cramped Boston apartment, unable to hang up because it's the only time her apartment doesn't feel lonely (maybe the only time she doesn't feel lonely), Steve hanging onto every word she says. They don't care that they have to get up early for work in the morning because they can't let each other go. And it's easier this way, the separation of distance, keeping their conversations to phone calls in the hushed late night hours when it feels safe enough to say anything.
It's much harder when they're in front of each other in person, and Nancy can feel how the tether to Steve has grown stronger. It's harder to ignore how her heart skips when he looks her way, or when their arms brush as they walk alongside each other in the entry hallway, or his hand touches hers when they're passing cartons of takeout around the kitchen table.
Steve doesn't want to hope their conversations mean anything significant, not after how battered his heart feels, and he's just happy to have Nancy's friendship. That's all this is anyways, right? The late night calls, the wistfulness he swears he can hear in her voice, the look in her eyes when she opens the door to the meet-up house and sees him for the first time—it's just friendship, right?
When Nancy goes back to her apartment after their meet-up, she tells herself the same thing every time: she doesn't know what she wants, and Steve does. She bottles everything else away. She has an internship to focus on proving herself in, anyways.
Sometimes Nancy asks him about the girls he's seeing, almost masochistically curious. There's an undercurrent of jealousy at the edges of some of her words, and her teasing front is almost enough to disguise it.
But Steve catches onto it, and it frustrates him. He's the one who laid his heart bare for her, and she still hasn't ever acknowledged that confession. It hangs in the background of their conversations (along with The Night they still won't speak about), more painfully noticeable during calls like these. They always end strained and awkward, sometimes snippy, usually with a clipped, "I have to go."
But her and Steve's calls also get deeper, swimming into more intimate waters they can't go back from. On Barb's birthday, Nancy ends up quietly bringing it up on the phone. She tells him about the last birthday Barb and her spent together, Steve listening intently. It starts small, the way they start poking the Barb-sized elephant in the room that's always lurked in the corner of their relationship, Nancy mentioning when something makes her think of Barb, though still dancing around The Night everything went wrong.
Until Nancy's drinking one night when she calls Steve. He can tell immediately that something's wrong. So she tells him about a case she was investigating, trying to help a mom find her daughter. But it was too late; Nancy was too late, and they'd found the daughter dead. Steve recognises the guilt in her voice.
It reminds Steve of the conversation at Tina's party, the one that's haunted him ever since. Not just because it was the implosion of their relationship, which was always going to happen, but because of what slipped through: that she blamed them, blamed herself. And he's never been able to stop seeing that weight clinging to her.
"It's not your fault," he tells her this time. The conversation starts to drift into murkier territory, into deeper wells of guilt, but it's late, and Nancy's words start to slur together. For that night, they manage to side-step The Night again.
But then the anniversary of The Night happens, and it's too heavy between them to talk around it. What starts with a quiet, "I miss her," from Nance spirals into "I shouldn't have left her. I shouldn't have made her come to that party in the first place," and finally, finally Steve can say to her what's he's been holding inside him ever since that night at Tina's. He tells her she couldn't have known what would happen to Barb. That the only one at fault was the Demogorgon. The conversation is messy, sometimes going in circles, sometimes Nancy even angry at Steve's attempts to relieve her of this guilt she's white-knuckle-gripped onto for so long. But there's catharsis in finally acknowledging it, all of their tangled up feelings.
Maybe that one phone call doesn't cure everything. But it does feel like letting go of some of that weight, for both of them. And there's a palpable feeling of freedom in their conversations after that, without them needing to dance around The Night anymore.
When they see each other again for their December meet-up, they can both feel it, how much lighter they both are. Nancy's comfortable enough going in for a hug of greeting with Steve, and they just melt into each other, their eyes shutting in relief. It's like coming home for the first time all year. Their eyes usually find each other like magnets at regular intervals, but that night, they can't keep their eyes off each other at all. Robin and Jonathan might as well not be there (to their chagrin). When their hands brush, they linger, fingers twitching to fold around each other, but they just barely hold themselves back. The air around them crackles with the feeling that they're a step away from something new.
When they're preparing to say their goodbyes and touching on their upcoming plans, Steve reveals that he's planning on using his holiday break to do a little solo travel before he goes to pick up Dustin. He holds Nancy's eyes, an unspoken invitation, maybe not even fully conscious it's an invitation until he's looking at her. He's not ready to open the door to all of his hope yet, because he's been there before, thinking they were on the precipice of something only for it to go nowhere. But he'll crack the door open, and he'll let her know it's open.
Nancy heads back to Boston to finish the last week of her internship. Her apartment's lease is up at the end of the month. She's still deciding what all her next steps will be, but she realises she does know the first. She does know what she wants now.
So she shows up at Steve's door in Hawkins, bags in tow, the day Steve's heading off for his trip. And Steve, he can't help the smile that just completely overtakes him. He picks her up in a hug and spins her around. After a year of them trudging through their jobs, walking back to empty apartments at the ends of long days, finding pockets of light in their conversations with each other, it's like they've finally let all the light in, and they're both glowing in it.
Steve needs to be sure, so he asks her, "What is this?" And she tells him. She tells him she didn't forget about his speech to her in the Upside Down. She tells him it wasn't about the "nuggets," that she got that. It was just easier to focus on that and deflect from everything else. But she's done hiding from her feelings.
She tells him when she dreams about her future now, he's there, too. And she's nervous for a second when she adds, "If your dream's still the same, that is."
Steve can't hold it back any more. He pulls her in for a kiss. "It never changed," he tells her when they finally pull apart.
So they head off on an adventure together. Of course, they still need to figure out the exact details: Nancy, which job she's going to take, Steve if he can find a job in the city, if they're even going to stay in Boston or go somewhere else, but they're not too worried about it all right now, because they know the most important part:
They'll both be there.
So, just to be clear...
We're all in agreement that Nancy was supposed to admit she has feelings for Steve during the break-up scene, right?
Because the whole lead up is about how they're not being honest with each other, which is shown pretty clearly at the end of season four when they're boarding up the cabin.
Jonathan's big confession is obviously that he never applied to Emerson. He's been lying to her for months because even though he knows the relationship has run its course, he hasn't wanted to admit it. This is a big thing to admit, so Nancy needs a big confession to match. Which ends up being that she could have visited him during spring break but chose not to because she felt suffocated and needed space. After six months apart. Okay. Doesn't make a lot of sense and the two confessions really aren't on the same level, but okay.
The issue is that season four tells us that this isn't even true. Nancy tells Robin that Jonathan was supposed to visit her and cancelled at the last minute, and that this is just the latest example of his pulling away from her. She doesn't know what's going on with him, but she's upset about it. She also tells Fred that she's annoyed by Jonathan's absence. So basically, in what is supposed to be a big moment of honesty, we have Nancy taking responsibility for Jonathan's poor behaviour in order to share the blame around more evenly and make Jonathan look like less of a terrible boyfriend. This kind of writing only makes sense if they originally intended for Nancy to confess something else and then changed it.
And obviously as a Stancy shipper, this change is frustrating. But also just as a fan of Nancy's character in general. Her budding friendship with Robin was one of the highlights of season four, and Nancy's opening up about her relationship issues was the turning point that cemented them as officially friends. Now it seems as though Nancy wasn't even being truthful with Robin in this scene, which completely undermines the importance of it.
Anyway, just another in my long list of complaints about the character assassination that was season five. Seriously thinking about doing a full rewrite of it just so there's a pay-off to my emotional investment.
divorcegate being an explanation for the lack of stancy makes so much sense. ross going through a divorce between the making of vol1 and vol2, also makes sense
And now she never will get to again. I hate the Duffer Brothers.
Disappointment aside, it's actually quite fascinating how the Duffer brothers failed to deliver on so many fronts.
Did you watch Stranger Things for the sci-fi? → I'm so sorry. They didn't even do gravity right.
Did you watch for the action? → The final monster was mountain-sized CGI slop. The final battle lasted 10 minutes. None of the characters sustained any injury whatsoever.
Did you watch for the horror? → They replaced the grim, dark, and unsettling Upside Down with a bright yellow monster lair styled after Arizona.
Did you watch for the romance? → They killed El, derided Byler, ended Jancy, and left Stancy unresolved. Rovickie was developed all season just to end with a pessimistic throwaway line in the epilogue.
Did you watch for the found family and friendships? → The party is rarely together, and El spends most of the season separated from her friends. Steve and Robin barely interact. Jonathan and Joyce have no meaningful moments together. The epilogue establishes that the characters all go their separate ways.
I genuinely hope the "it's mandatory for female characters to be single to be an independent boss lady" concept burns to the fucking ground. they made nancy into a one dimensional gun girl in S5 (and even the fucking anti stancy redditors agree, can you believe it??) by playing into the gun x nancy fanservice.
so what is the verdict here? that she has to be all alone or else she isn't a badass? that she needs no comfort when her family was in a near death situation because she's just cool like that? why was the same argument not applied to jncy? nobody said she needs to be independent when she was with jon.
and how often do y'all see "he doesn't need no girlfriend, he's an independent man" for male characters? yeah, exactly. clearly y'all think male characters can be successful and independent despite being in a relationship, and want them to find love, but it's different for a female character huh.
and it's rather ironic because jon had the least going on for him outside the relationship with nancy, and he was the one who needed to find himself, but ofc, since he's a man people have decided that the logic doesn't apply to him.
people do the same thing to eleven, who has been isolated and alone her whole life, and somehow she STILL needs to be alone because others are speakimg on her behalf of her apparently not needing a relationship, when hses never expressed that herself, and she has to prove her worth by remaining in isolation or her "badass" status gets revoked. but I won't get into it here.
what breaks me about the lack of stancy resolution is how bad it makes nancy come out looking, antis have been on her throat for years, especially in S5, claiming she isn't considerate of steve's feelings and I've always jumped to defend her, and by not verbally addressing it ever, it only proves them right, this is part of why I was so sure there would be a resolution, but of course I should've known how little the duffers care.
in the books, she gives him hope, and tells him she'll think about it, she doesn't let him down easy because she knows she feels some type of way for him that she'll have to figure out (similar to the whole pacey/joey "you're off the hook" "I don't want to be off the hook" thing, which is clearly what they were going for initially)
and steve is very sweet about it, tells her to take all the time she needs, and is very excited that she even considered it.
this also only regresses her in the sense that she still cannot properly communicate what she wants, just like in S2, and avoids her issues, obviously because ofc they gave zero fucks about resolving the core issue (barb)
they made her reject steve through jon, which you could argue is unreliable since she could easily just be saying that to make him feel better post break up, STILL gave him looks post break up.
she never gives steve a direct resolution, and rejecting him to his face would've hurt less. the duffers clearly want to have their cake and it eat too, by keeping it ambiguous and unambiguous at the same time, trying to play it safe, but it satisfied no one.
With how bad the writing was for season 5 regarding Stancy….. I honestly can’t blame Steve for moving on off screen after waiting 18 months for an answer to his confession and watching Nancy be in a relationship with Jonathan even when she’s miserable. In the book, she tells Steve she’ll think on it which makes him so excited but never actually does tell him about her feelings. He only finds out through Jonathan that Nancy joked around about the six nuggets which must’ve hurt that his dream was being treated like a big joke to her. I really do think we were originally going to get a stancy endgame because in the book she avoids Steve because he makes her feel things which scares her. Season 4 feels like a fever dream now. I read that script, her heart was skipping at his confession and all that chemistry between them was wasted this season. Also to add that the duffer brothers should’ve ignored Reddit and twitter about Stancy because the GA loved them. My mom certainly did. She liked Steve better and questioned why Nancy is with that creepy loser when Steve was right there 😂
i did not miss the way they conveniently made steve "flying alone with this vecna creep on the lose?" harrington NOT turn back and worry and scream about nancy offering herself up as bait, and avoided having the camera on him, had jon do it instead, AND not showing nancy's expression when steve fell off the tower. not even an attempt at a platonic scene between them at the very least, duffers I know exactly what you are.
something im thinking about. both nancy and jonathan separately said (in eps 6 and 8) that steve wasn’t the reason for their breakup. so that technically renders the argument that stancy was only brought back in s4 to create conflict for jncy totally moot. so again the question must be asked … why bring them back at all if there was gonna be no payoff whatsoever??
“So…” Robin drags out, surveying Steve with a knowing twinkle in her eyes, “When are you gonna tell Nance there is no Julie?
Steve’s head snaps in her direction, expression weary and eyes just this side of red from the beer. “What do you mean?”
Robin raises her eyebrows. “Seriously, Harrington? How long are you gonna lie to her?”
“That’s not-” His face twists as he shakes his head before letting his shoulder deflate. He presses his fingers to the bridge of his nose. “It doesn’t matter. She won’t care; she’s-”
“She’s miserable, Steve!” Robin exclaims as though she has taken personal affront to his statement. “She’s miserable, and so are you. And as far as I could see, she was still very much giving you the eyes, so I don’t understand why you won’t just pull your shit together and tell her the truth-”
“What truth, Robin?” Steve cuts her off, looking back up. “What truth do you want me to tell her? That I’m a pathetic idiot that can’t even think of anyone that isn’t her? That I don’t care that we’re not in the cards, that we’ve never been in the cards, that I’d rather keep shuffling that same deck than just play a different goddamn game-”
~ i.e. a fic that i am dangerously close to writing