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transandrophobes love to use the "trans men have so much representation in fandom" rhetoric and conveniently leave out that most of that "representation" is just straight up fetishization
You know the common occurrence of a (usually younger) trans guy dating a cis guy and they start feminizing themselves while in that relationship? I donât like that itâs treated as a character flaw of said trans dude and not what it actually is, abuse.
> looking for a new discourse
> ask the poster if this discourse is a well documented irl issue or bullshit interpersonal grievances
> she doesn't understand
> pull out detailed diagram explaining what is irl issue and what's bullshit grievances
> she laughs and says "it's a good discourse ma'am"
> open post
> it's grievance
The Department of Education worked with the far-right Family Research Council to officially designate March 12th as Detrans Awareness Day last year. But what actually leads people to detransition? It's not regret, but social stigma, incited by the very figures who claim to protect detransitioners. I want to hear their stories describing how the current moral panic influenced their decisions.
people say trans men dont do anything for the queer community or that trans men just go stealth and abandon other trans people but two trans men are suing Kansas state for civil rights violations after they stripped trans people of their driver's licenses
ive seen people report this as "two transgender individuals" they are TRANS MEN. ftm transgender men. degendering them by calling them "individuals" enforces our erasure and invisibility. I hope they win and the licenses of transgender kansans are reinstated, I hope its remembered as a historic civil rights case, and I hope their identities as trans men are never stripped from them in the retelling of this story.
someone on Twitter qrted my post about this and said "trans people are getting erased from public existence but this is what is the most pressing issue to you"
this IS trans people getting erased from public existence. trans folks in Kansas getting stripped of their ID is getting stripped of the legal recognition of their identity. and when you ignore the gender identities of these two Kansas trans men two are suing the state and refer to them as a nebulous, degendered "transgender individuals" you are also stripping them of their gender identity. they are about to enter the legal battle of their lives to insist on their right to be seen as legally men and have their name and correct gender marker on their government ID, how can you pretend to care about that fight if you dont even want to call them trans men?? like, all of this is connected, its the very same issue.
stop asking transmascs if they just have internalized misogyny and start asking cis women if they just have internalized transphobia
a lot of people have interpreted this as me saying we should focus on the ways cis women can harm the trans community, and while that's true, i was actually trying to draw attention to the sheer amount of people who settle for calling themselves butch or masc or gnc women because they've been taught the terms "nonbinary" "trans man" and "genderqueer" are immature and cringe
hey. what. run that by me again. you can't be saying that on the same reply chain that you say this
A reminder that testosterone is not birth control, is not guaranteed to stop your period, even if it does stop your period is not guaranteed to stop you from getting pregnant should any sperm find themselves located in your vagina, and does not make you infertile. Trans men and mascs needing access to abortions is a very real thing and in fact trans men and mascs dying over lack of access to both abortion and pregnancy care is also a very real thing. Do not let anyone convince you that it is a mere hypothetical- we have lost enough people to this.
stop asking transmascs if they just have internalized misogyny and start asking cis women if they just have internalized transphobia
people do not seem to understand that being a trans guy, or god forbid nonbinary, is a thousand times more embarrassing to broader society than being a cis woman. if someone assigned female at birth wanted to escape shame, embarrassment, or harassment regarding their gender, transitioning would absolutely NOT help. im sick of binary trans men spouting this truscum rhetoric repackaged in transfeminist language.
stop asking transmascs if they just have internalized misogyny and start asking cis women if they just have internalized transphobia
ohhh. i get it. these people think being transmasc is just inherently misogynistic.
someone who blocked me in my comments made me realize i should make this clear, so here. saying ANY of the following things inherently stems from the belief that transmasculinity is inherently misogynistic.
"transmascs have extra work to do in unlearning misogyny, more so than every other trans person (and/or more so than cis people)".
"transmascs must find misogyny and hating women very gender-affirming".
"transmascs are transitioning away from being women because of internalized misogyny".
"masculinity is inherently harmful and destructive and oppressive of women, so transmascs are just transitioning because they want male privilege".
all of those statements stem from the very basic idea that the IDEA of being transmasc is misogynist at its core. if someone says things like that, they fundamentally believe - whether they will admit it or not - that being transmasc makes you more of a misogynist than people who are not transmasc.
Did you knowâin the United States aloneâtransgender and gender expansive (TGE) individuals with uteri are more likely to consider and attempt to DIY/self manage an abortion without clinical supervision?
36% of those ever pregnant considered (more than 1 in 3), while 19% attempted to do so (nearly 1 in 5)âwith a quarter (25%) using physical trauma as a method, while none of them reported using misoprostol or mifepristone (recommended by WHO as abortion medications)
This is compared to lifetime prevalence of the general Self Managed Abortion (SMA) of 7% (tho, on the rise as of the overturning of Roe vs Wade), in the population that is not TGE, where nearly 50% used medication and 20% used physical methods. Some of these individuals came in contact with clinicians before, during, or after their SMAâsome of whom may be supported by clinicians.
In the TGE population surveyed, 88% of those who attempted abortion without clinical supervision used more than one method. Of those who attempted, 10% included that they were intersex.
Of the 13 individuals who chose to share the results of their (14) SMA, 9 ended in miscarriage or the return of a menses, 4 ended in a subsequent clinic-based abortion after their initial SMA attempt failed, and 1 ended in birth (whose parent is an intersex individual).
13% chose to describe the difficult situations that influenced their attempt; this included suicide attempts, intimate partner violence or other physical harm, fear of harm to themselves, or a fear for personal safety if anyone discovered the pregnancyâa fear that prevented seeking professional care. This reasoning is also vastly different from those who aren't TGEâwhere nearly 50% felt SMA "seemed easier or faster"
Some of their stories include: a Cherokee genderqueer two-spirit individual denied abortion access for a rape-related pregnancy; an agender individual (who used pregnancy tests at school and work due to being terrified their abuser would kill them if he found out) that spent a day and a half, sick and unconscious on their bathroom floor (longer in bed) while crying; and a nonbinary individualâwhose insurance did not cover abortionâwho considered drinking poison, as "dying was a better alternative to forced pregnancy." There was also: a trans man who stuck a needle into his front hole; a genderfluid individual who drank a lot of alcohol, took a mild overdose of their prescriptions, repeatedly hit their lower abdomen with a hammer, and then stopped eating for a few days.
Abortion attempts without clinical supervision among transgender, nonbinary and gender-expansive people in the United States (link)
And
Self-Managed Abortion in the United States (link)
Anyway you DO in fact have to think about how you would respond if someone close to you got accused of something terrible*, and if your answer is "I would do nothing, because it's more important to protect my circle from harm, and it's probably not true anyway", congrats! Now you know exactly why most communities allow child and domestic abuse to fester like an open wound
Additionally, while it's important to understand the underlying reasons why some groups of people are more willing and able to commit abuse, focusing too much on identity is foolish. Adopting the stance that real abuse is only possible when one is a parent/blood relative/man/white/cis/straight etc, and only committed for a narrow range of reasons ("exerting power") is completely disconnected from reality, and simply makes it easier for you to comfortably ignore abuse that doesn't fit the model!
PSA you still need to examine whether it happened. Responding to an accusation as if it were a fact is how minorities get lynched.
Lynchings are about white supremacy and using accusations of violence as a pretext for violence against a racialized Other. This post is about intracommunity issues, and abuse committed by and to people close to you, the reader. The vast majority of perpetrators of child and domestic abuse never face any meaningful consequences for their actions. You must understand that when it comes to your own personal friends and family, the likelihood that you will have any significant evidence to "examine" is low. You have to make a choice anyway. If "lynch mob" is one of those choices, that's on you.
Anyway you DO in fact have to think about how you would respond if someone close to you got accused of something terrible*, and if your answer is "I would do nothing, because it's more important to protect my circle from harm, and it's probably not true anyway", congrats! Now you know exactly why most communities allow child and domestic abuse to fester like an open wound
Additionally, while it's important to understand the underlying reasons why some groups of people are more willing and able to commit abuse, focusing too much on identity is foolish. Adopting the stance that real abuse is only possible when one is a parent/blood relative/man/white/cis/straight etc, and only committed for a narrow range of reasons ("exerting power") is completely disconnected from reality, and simply makes it easier for you to comfortably ignore abuse that doesn't fit the model!
You can cut past like 90% of gender essentialism by shifting from "men are like X because they're men, and women are like Y because they're women" to "people are held to different standards, given different amounts of criticism, grace, encouragement etc based on positionality and they change and grow as a result."
Hey baby transmascs, never detransition for a shitty straight guy no matter how attractive he is or how lonely you feel. You deserve better, you deserve to be happy. You deserve a partner who will love you truly and want you to be the most authentic version of yourself.
Additionally, baby transfems, never detransition for a shitty straight girl no matter how attractive she is or how lonely you feel. You deserve better, you deserve to be happy. You deserve a partner who will love you truly and want you to be the most authentic version of yourself
Never give someone the time of day who just treats you like a "safer man", you're a woman.
its weird how people can understand being forced into the role of a wife is one of the most dehumanizing and life ruining things that can happen to somebody, until transmascs are worried about conservatives trying to do exactly that to us and all of a sudden its not that big of a deal, why are you mad, conservatives literally like you
SORRY THIS IS HILARIOUS
Closely related: how people will understand that pregnancy is a physically gruelling, painful, dehumanising experience at the best of times (even if you live somewhere with the best possible technologies and social and legal attitudes towards pregnancy and/or abortion), and that forced pregnancy has been used as a tool of patriarchal and imperial control for generations, and that the threat of being raped with the specific intent of getting the victim pregnant in order to further control, humiliate and dehumanise them is omnipresent in western culture, and that even if you personally can't get pregnant, if you ever thought you possibly could, you will have been soaking in this messaging all your life... Until a trans man is talking about it, and suddenly "That's just dysphoria, why are you bragging that you can get pregnant, sounds like you love your feeeeeeemale biology, maybe you should hurry up and detransition, gross tmra,"
I honestly don't think most people actually agree with this, like most people I know think pregnancy is great and women should want kids and whatnot.
To me it's one of those things that is dependent on what circle you're in. I feel like when I've been in circles that consider themselves leftwing they'll at least pay lip service to the idea of forced and unwanted pregnancy as traumatic.
It's just that they'll then drop all the ideas they payed lip service to once they encounter a member of the female sex who takes it seriously as a form of oppression instead of using it for rhetorical leftist brownie points.
hey so. can you get the fuck out with your terf shit
i killed her
It makes me so sad when I see trans guys pushed into feminized labor or jobs in the house typically expected of women and they think itâs transgressive or breaking gender roles like youâre doing *exactly* what is expected of you actually. I donât think itâs empowering when Iâm included with the women in the kitchen during family holidays while my male family members sit on the couch and watch football. It doesnât make me feel like I have âpositive masculinityâ or that Iâm breaking barriers it makes me want to tear the whole sexist system apart
I think this applies to partners too. I know a lot of trans guys who are really frustrated because their partners do less than their fair share of the housework or their partners push them into feminized sexual roles and call it feminist. Itâs weird and it doesnât make any sense. Iâve seen people joke about making trans guys do the dishes as reparations and I get that itâs in good fun but in a society that views trans men as women and women as lesser than⊠trans men have already *been* doing the dishes. Most trans people transition in adulthood meaning trans men mostly grew up as girls/were seen as girls. You all know how families treat daughters, how society treats teenage girls, itâs not reparations itâs the same shit weâve always been pushed into but with a coat of blue paint.