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EXAMINER'S GLOSSARY
Classpect Analysis:
Knight of Space
Seer of Void
Character Analysis:
New Kids: Harry, Tavros, Vrissy, Yiffany
Jane Crocker
Class Analysis:
Heir: 1,
Knight: 1, 2,
Maid: 1, 2, 3,
Seer: 1,
Witch: 1,
Aspect Analysis:
(none yet.)
Guys I've only just realized people have been commenting on my posts from years ago I'm sorry for not responding 😭😭
Bruh I forgot denizens existed. The Homestuck lore has too many layers 😭
(Jk I enjoy how interconnected the world building is)
I've recently been wondering what classpects would make up the most successful SBURB session. And I have an idea;
Most Integral: Knight of Rage, Heir of Breath, Maid of Light, Seer of Space
Good: Sylph of Life, Rogue of Time, Page of Heart, Witch Hope, Mage of Mind
Least Bad: Thief of Void, Prince of Doom, Bard of Blood
A Knight of Rage would be amazing to have in a SBURB session.
Now mind you, this is with my very underwhelming understanding of the rage aspect. That being violent emotion, anger, and so on. (On a side note it does feel like depressing emotions like sadness, constant embarrassment, and low self esteem are more connected to the void aspect)
With the knight rule seen in three different SBURB sessions, whatever aspect a knight has, the rest of the party will not. No one gets mad at each other! Yay!
That being said, the Knight of Rage could totally fit the jock stereotype (Rainbow Dash specifically comes to mind). People who are this classpect may fight using their emotions and instincts rather than their brains, maybe over time they incorporate some muscle memory? But overall, there are no thoughts between those eyes.
I can't believe Vriska learned boundaries. It only took probably a century.
Hmmm... I should attempt at the Bard Class.
Classes and aspects that aren't with any of the human kids is difficult because we don't follow their stories as closely, and sadly for me, I can't get a very good idea of how their Medium world contrasts their home. I do feel like I have a good idea on the story of a Bard though, so let's give it a shot.
There are two phases in a Bard's story. Let's follow Gamzee Makara, a Bard of Rage, for this. The first phase is where the Bard will act completely inverse to their aspect. Gamzee was more aligned with the hope aspect. He was kind, believed in Juggalos, and he wasn't murdering everyone he saw.
In the second phase, Gamzee has a breaking point due so the nightmares from inadequate sleep and goes on rage-induced murder spree where he kills Nepeta Leijon and Equius Zahhak.
Consulting the wiki (give me a break it's been a while 😭) it seems Cronus Ampora has had similar phases. One where he follows a prophecy where he is destined to kill Lord English, and a second phase where he does not.
While Cronus when we see him is acting more within the hope aspect by believing he has rizz, I wonder if this is more of a default subdued state. After all, in Homestuck 2, Gamzee was not on a rampage before he was murdered. Then again, what would a hope-rampage look like? I have no clue. Thinking Cronus have a chance with any woman he sees feels like mania to me, I suppose. It is important to consider that the alpha trolls' stories were cut off before the game could end and emotional arcs might not have been concluded.
In Homestuck 2, whichever of the kids is a Bard will be leaning heavily into an aspect that has already been used (life, breath, heart, or hope).
Wow. I haven't been on here but I want to point out how weird it was to see Terezi say that Dirk looks like a little lad who wants berries and cream. 100% valid but I'm used to jokes from over a decade ago in this web series.
do you do session analysis or would ya rather not?
Session analysis are probably too much for me to be honest. But I think the success of a session can be brought down to a few key components.
Firstly, does your session have a Knight and a character with a Space aspect? If not, there will be no new universe to go to and therefor nothing to win. Now, the Alpha Kids (Jane, Jake, Dirk, and Roxy) were able to win the game, but that's because the Beta Kids were able to crash in one their session.
This brings me to my second point and the main argument I have. I think winning a session comes down to outside forces caused by vague circumstances. Jack Noir was a hassle for everyone, and the reason he became so powerful was of his own volition and because of the Beta Kids creating their sprites. The Alpha kids were able to survive purely because they happened to be ecto-related to another session of people that needed to jump to another session. Crazy stuff like that.
So if you want to know if there's a chance your party will win a session it comes down to two things; do they meet the win conditions, and do you want them to win? How stupid they might be is surprisingly irrelevant.
I hope this helps!
Seer of Void
Funnily enough, I used to feel represented by this classpect most. Perhaps because I was an edgy early-teen.
For seers, there are many obstacles pre-SBURB from the opposite aspects and is shown mostly in an environmental sense. Rose Lalonde, a Seer of Light, is seen in a perpetual dark storm. Terezi Pyrope, a Seer of Mind, navigates their environment by smell and instinct rather than logic. A Seer of Void might be in a perpetual heatwave or wildfire, and sick shades would serve an actual purpose other than aesthetic.
As for hobbies, there's nothing to pin down. Everything Rose seems to be interested in has a purpose later on. Maybe a Seer of Void's hobbies might be a bit meaningless in the sense that none of it can be used to complete the game or their house is strewn with unfinished projects.
A Seer of Void's land is absolutely in pitch black in some sense. I can do a SBURB Land analysis some other day, though. Because I think the Seer of Void's skills are more interesting right now. A Seer of Void knows what is not important but not know what the plan should be.
"So what if we surround the enemy--" "No. It won't work." "Okay... We sneak arou--" "Also no." "Fine! What about an ambush! Would an ambush work?!" "... Maybe??"
I am between two options for Tavros Crocker's classpect. I think he is either a Mage or Bard of Blood.
Why I originally picked Mage of Blood was because he is being negatively impacted by most of his connections.
But now I am leaning towards Bard of Blood. First of all, how interesting it would be for Tavros to follow in Gamzee's steps. My understanding of the bard class is that they (consciously or not) invite destruction through their aspect, and there seems to be a battle between their aspect and the inverse in the beginning. Tavros Crocker so far has been desperate to stay out of family drama but has underlying spite towards them.
I assume Tavros Crocker is going to have a breaking point. His family (mostly Jane) goes too far and instead of cutting his ties he will destroy her using them. I hope it doesn't carry to his friends though.
Round 2 Side A Poll 5
Arthur Pendragon VS Dave Strider (Homestuck)
Arthur Pendragon
Dave Strider
Arthur Pendragon (The Mechanisms)
"He's a cowboy. He lives on a space station that's slowly falling into the sun. He's in a poly relationship with Lancelot & Guinevere (theres a song about the pendragons being in love and it FUCKS.) He's got a trans son. In the end, he's the sole survivor. Hes even got a great song about his tragic fate."
"They are a sweet little baby! And a murderous space pirate! Love them"
Dave Strider
"Has a sword called Caledfwlch (excalibur)"
"Dave Strider is King Arthur coded but if King Arthur was a weedy 13 year old DJ wearing sunglasses."
Vote Dave Strider as the new King of England!!
As a treat, I want to theorize about the Homestuck 2 Classpects. As we know, there is a set of four kids, totaling together with all the humans we have a set of twelve!!
Theoretically, this leaves us with bard, mage, sylph, and thief along with blood, doom, mind, and rage. To sort between Vrissy, Tavros, Harry, and Yiffany. It is safe to say this session will be a crazy one.
Possible classpects are hard to theorize as none of these classes or aspects have been seen in depth through the other two sessions on Earth. But here is how my theories stand as of now:
Harry is a Mage of Mind
Tavros is a Bard of Blood
Vrissy is a Sylph of Rage
Yiffany is a Thief of Doom
(These are subject to change so I will cover these characters in separate posts)
Homestuck day is tomorrow and I'm acknowledging it now in case I forget!
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So I just realized something about the lands in the medium for seers. They literally show their aspect. Before the player goes into the medium it seems to be the opposite.
Rose goes from her house that was always dark and raining, and quite unlucky, to a world that was so bright you were almost blinded.
Terezi, before she went to the medium where the sky was literally the mind, she was blind, leaving her alone to instinct, or emotions that guided her around, if that makes sense.
Based on this and seen through the ancestor the Sufferer, Kankri Vantas--a Seer of Blood--was probably very isolated but in a way free. Free because his status as a mutant blood (and overall lime blood status) would have him in big trouble.
Heir time!! Not heir of time, just my ideas on the class. Specifically the way an aspect connects with pre-sburb life and medium adventures.
Heirs are known for having immense amounts of their aspects but it's not easy to control. It doesn't even seem like they're supposed to. More like harnessed with awesome vibes.
It's seen pre-SBURB as John Egbert is able to get out of any scuffle with his dad. He is never able to be pinned down. This continues into the Medium and spreads to his teammates as none of them are stuck for long. Jade Harley can teleport, Dave Strider can travel through time, and Rose Lalonde can see and take actions towards the optimal future.
Unconsciously harnessing their aspect is also seen through Equius Zahhak, a Heir of Void. Throughout the series he is not mentioned often, and he is portrayed as unappealing to the readers which actually plays into the aspect well. After the trolls are effectively blocked from winning the game, they are able to hide in the void of their SBURB session. In fact, they are so well hidden that they are never found until Vriska Serket tries to solo Jack Noir.
I admittedly cannot remember much of Mituna Captor, a Heir of Doom. What I would theorize is that pre-SBURB he had a ton of constraints. This can actually be seen in the Captors' ancestor, Ψiioniic (yes. I had to copy and paste this name), who is bound to the Condesce's ship as the Helmsmen. Though the aspect obviously carries over later in the session when Mitunia and his eleven teammates die. A big whoopsie.
