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you have ocd? :0
my psychiatrist is trying to figure that out... I do take pills that are usually prescribed for OCD but that's because they're also for agoraphobia (which I'm currently struggling with)
so there's a possibility! not something that makes me excited but yeah. my only confirmed diagnosis is still bpd. wouldn't recommend
edit: to clarify I think I might have it but my doctor said it can be a symptom of something else or just my anxiety acting up, we have to wait and see... my therapist doesn't like talking about diagnoses with me for Several Reasons I Won't Disclose. so I don't know
damn so Tom has ocd... brother is another me...
GOT CRITICIZED ONCE A BRO THREW A TANTRUM
yeah...
if ur trying to get the info rant on the tyche post into main tags it wont show bc its a reblog 😿 and i think its def something people should see/be informed on!
yeah apparently it doesn't really matter anyway, no one will care because of this:
which is bullshit btw. you can't take the most important thing of a religion (the deities) and go "uhm actually this is separate from that!" like...????????
I'll make an SMP called Jerusalemsmp and my oc will be the son of Saint Judas and in my smp Jesus can shoot wine from his wrists. but because i said in the description it's separate from Christianity then I'm in the clear. you understand how ludicrous that sounds? how disrespectful?
I don't expect anything from a dude who admitted to using AI for his previous project. I did have high hopes for shubble but I forgot she dgaf about doing actual research. otherwise she wouldn't have taken a sponsorship from a company that used ai for their game, just a few days after tweeting against ai
is shelbys tyche inspired champion okay?? i know a lot of them have issues (martyn, scott’s design having orientalist elements and scott now changing it) so i was wondering if hers was okay 🫤
i think pow should’ve really reworked the concept if they were going to have nooooo research or cultural sensitivity to peoples irl beliefs imo. a general fantasy series with deities they made up could’ve been easier if they “didn’t want to deep into it” percy jackson style but bruh
I wanna say yes and no for sh*bble
tyche is the goddess of fortune and she's depicted as blindfolded or blind, with a cornucopia full of harvest and a wheel. her champion's design has the blindfolded element which I think was nice, but that was it. the whole smp is orientalist. Edward Said talked about it best of course but the concept of taking an actual religion as Hellenism is, so rich and complex, and reducing it to... champions? a game? taking it as a joke? it's indeed orientalist because it reduces and simplifies something from the east to fit into a marketable idea for the west
it's the same reason I never read Percy Jackson nor interacted with stuff like lore olympus and such. imagine a group of greeks made an smp based of... idk, the way they think US elections work (idk I'm out of ideas it's Saturday). and they completely misrepresented it. people would be rightfully mad
I personally know folks who worship certain pagan gods. I for one give a lot of my time to eris, goddess of discord...
anyway, that's what I think
after watching her pov in full for the first ep I think I can be rightfully angry
it's clear she didn't do any research on the actual epithets of tyche beyond reading she's a fate goddess. some of her others, much more important epithets are: success, fortune, providence and luck
Tyche was worshipped in that capacity. she brought good fortune to communities and harvests alike, she was given offerings during spring and summer to receive abundant crops when harvesting, and she was in a few cases the one people turned to in order to protect their cities from bad omens
she had nothing to do with predestination and sealed fates as shubble portrays... those were the 3 Fates, more commonly known as the moirae, daughters of nyx: Clotho, Lachesis and Atropos. they control the thread of every mortal's fate
they have nothing to do with tyche other than the fact they're about fate. there's no real overlap in their mythos
also, coins are not even part of her symbols or iconography. like, at all. her actual symbols are: a full cornucopia (wealth, good harvests, abundance), a ship's rudder (to showcase how she guides fate at her whim), a wheel or ball (to represent her unpredictable behaviour), a mural crown (to symbolise how she protects cities) and wings (to portray luck's ephemeral nature because it just... flies away)
the only reason people associate her with coins to begin with is because she was put on them during the hellenistic period... and then the whole heads/tails stuff in the west. so, again, another case of orientalism
we won't be tunning in again. I saw enough
is shelbys tyche inspired champion okay?? i know a lot of them have issues (martyn, scott’s design having orientalist elements and scott now changing it) so i was wondering if hers was okay 🫤
i think pow should’ve really reworked the concept if they were going to have nooooo research or cultural sensitivity to peoples irl beliefs imo. a general fantasy series with deities they made up could’ve been easier if they “didn’t want to deep into it” percy jackson style but bruh
I wanna say yes and no for sh*bble
tyche is the goddess of fortune and she's depicted as blindfolded or blind, with a cornucopia full of harvest and a wheel. her champion's design has the blindfolded element which I think was nice, but that was it. the whole smp is orientalist. Edward Said talked about it best of course but the concept of taking an actual religion as Hellenism is, so rich and complex, and reducing it to... champions? a game? taking it as a joke? it's indeed orientalist because it reduces and simplifies something from the east to fit into a marketable idea for the west
it's the same reason I never read Percy Jackson nor interacted with stuff like lore olympus and such. imagine a group of greeks made an smp based of... idk, the way they think US elections work (idk I'm out of ideas it's Saturday). and they completely misrepresented it. people would be rightfully mad
I personally know folks who worship certain pagan gods. I for one give a lot of my time to eris, goddess of discord...
anyway, that's what I think
so the concept was just announced and yeah, screams orientalism
and I never replied to the tarot stuff whoops sowwy
is shelbys tyche inspired champion okay?? i know a lot of them have issues (martyn, scott’s design having orientalist elements and scott now changing it) so i was wondering if hers was okay 🫤
i think pow should’ve really reworked the concept if they were going to have nooooo research or cultural sensitivity to peoples irl beliefs imo. a general fantasy series with deities they made up could’ve been easier if they “didn’t want to deep into it” percy jackson style but bruh
I wanna say yes and no for sh*bble
tyche is the goddess of fortune and she's depicted as blindfolded or blind, with a cornucopia full of harvest and a wheel. her champion's design has the blindfolded element which I think was nice, but that was it. the whole smp is orientalist. Edward Said talked about it best of course but the concept of taking an actual religion as Hellenism is, so rich and complex, and reducing it to... champions? a game? taking it as a joke? it's indeed orientalist because it reduces and simplifies something from the east to fit into a marketable idea for the west
it's the same reason I never read Percy Jackson nor interacted with stuff like lore olympus and such. imagine a group of greeks made an smp based of... idk, the way they think US elections work (idk I'm out of ideas it's Saturday). and they completely misrepresented it. people would be rightfully mad
I personally know folks who worship certain pagan gods. I for one give a lot of my time to eris, goddess of discord...
anyway, that's what I think
the issue with pantheon smp isn’t limited to a handful of bad/racist character designs, or the creators’ lack of research/knowledge about the culture they’re basing the smp on, and in fact if you’re focusing on those comparatively superficial issues (which are still issues, mind) then you’re limiting yourself to surface-level analysis and failing to address the root of the problem. all the character designs will be racist because the smp itself is, fundamentally, built off a racist premise: the idea that all interesting or attractive or appealing aspects of foreign cultures “belong to” that nebulous and fascistic idea of The West, to be pillaged and exploited and (mis)appropriated and altered, for profit and for personal enjoyment. there is a long history of westerners treating foreign cultures that way, including ancient greek culture! to focus on specifically the debates over whether scott’s character design is orientalist or whether martyn’s character design is misogynistic or whether legundo’s character design is just blatantly fucking racist is to miss the forest for the trees.
I'll reply to everything tomorrow but I want to say FUCK whoever decided to make A MAN artemis' champion. you have done zero research and it fucking shows
"oh but she had three champions who were men !!!" WRONG
one of them in the majority of accounts is said to have TRIED TO RAPE HER and was a fucking boaster, saying he'd kill every living creature on earth and could win against the gods themselves (Orion)
the other was the literal son of hermes. you know, the GOD? and Apollo's (also Pan's) favourite. trained by Artemis because his father wanted to equip him for a good future (daphnis)
the last one is the only truly normal man she willingly trained and that's because he spent years and years devoting his life to her until she finally caved and trained him (hyppolitus)
you're mischaracterizing the goddess that PROTECTS WOMEN AND LITTLE GIRLS with THREEEEEEE exceptions to justify a man being her champion
there's a reason modern day cults to Artemis are exclusive to women. she does nottttt fuck with men
gonna be back briefly and leave again. feel free to send tarot asks as I need to get the hang of things again for Some Personal Stuff
im not the anon that sent you the links but im now seeing an increased hatred against Brazilians and Brazil and I just want to say that you were right, they're coming for us too
leaving now. thanks to those who sent me nice stuff both anon and privately. I won't stop loving my country or my continent. the big powers want us divided but I'll always support my fellow latinos in south america and up north.
i think the argument that there's a hate campaign is dumb and makes no sense. the us and israel is also trying to take land and resources from other latam countries like mexico and chile (not to mention venezuela) and you don't see us hating their people, why is that then? maybe because they didn't spent weeks being violently and disgustingly racist on twitter where since the automatic translations, everyone from everywhere in the world saw it. these are just the first 5 examples i saw from scrolling for like 10 minutes:
https://x.com/ErrorArbitralTR/status/2079731374802534698
https://x.com/luby_silva/status/2079385673593712995
https://x.com/kingsmdtzz/status/2079305760014475592
https://x.com/NovoRomantic/status/2079599413224173671
https://x.com/pollymollyy_/status/2079599327782297864
idk how you can look at this and still think that your people didn't make everyone hate you on your own. we can hate racists all we want and if you have a problem with that then make your people stop being racist. if you're argentinian and not racist we're not talking about you and you have no reason to be offended, and i'm sorry you have to deal with such horrible people in your country, but don't fucking defend them or pretend they're not doing anything wrong, that there isn't a huge number of them compared to other nations and that our rage is unfunded. you should be ashamed of them, not trying to sweep their disgusting behavior under the rug. when racists from other countries tried to use that same hideous racist meme i saw their compatriots dogpilling the shit out of them and so everyone understood they were irrelevant and to be ignored, meanwhile the progressive side of your country just let that slide and now that everyone turned against you you're trying to play the victim, well it's not gonna work. and i'm sorry about those anons you're getting, that's awful and i hope you believe me that i wasn't the one sending them. you should definitely block them.
i wasn't going to reply to this because I read it and I thought huh? but okay. so here we go.
1. there IS a hate campaign. there HAS BEEN smear campaigns in the past to other nations. Venezuela (and this is something I got from my friend that LIVES THERE) also went through something similar to justify the US intervening, kidnapping Maduro and now selling land to Israeli folks after the recent earthquake. not to mention stealing oil.
2. just because you haven't seen it, it doesn't mean we haven't fought against the racists online. most of the posts that began this whole thing are accounts paid by our government that's more concerned about being the USs lapdog than helping their own. we don't agree with them, we hate them, we try to educate them. your algorithm only shows you what you interact with.
3. saying we're more racist than other countries is factually wrong:
back in 2021 and 2022 Chile had protests to CLOSE ITS BORDERS TO FOREIGNERS
not to mention Mexico. you can read this article from 2023
4. I haven't swept anything under the rug. time and time again I said there's racism here as there is in every country. still, saying Argentina as a whole is racist it's just an ignorant fallacy ad populum.
5. telling me to stop people from being racist while I'm actively doing that online and offline doesn't make any sense. you don't know me. we ARE trying. we also ask people to stop believing everything they see because it's simply not as true as it might seem. you just don't want to hear us. WE ARE DOGPILING ON THE RACISTS literally one of the links you send is someone from Argentina saying THIS IS OUR FAULT because this group of people (white supremacists that support Milei) started it and we didn't stop it as we should've. no one from the "progressive side" as you said let that slide. not even the players. Messi literally paid for Vozihnas family tickets so they could watch the final. everyone that even dared to bad mouth cabo verde was hated on. we're literally trying to stop our government to put fees for foreigners at our universities so they can still attend for free despite people mocking us for the malvinas war and saying we should be genocided and turned into a lake.
6. that little sorry at the end doesn't matter to me. you don't care I got threatened to be found and raped until I'm unconscious. you care about appearing woke. you look dumb. I'm not playing the victim. I'm saying I got violent threats just because of the place I was born. you can hate the racists. I do. there's a line that's been crossed. keep justifying it I guess
tfw when you try to be SO woke and te tropiezas y ruedas por las escaleras y terminas siendo racista y cayendo en propaganda anti-minorías.
And they believe they are immune to propaganda and falling on the horseshoe theory, like sure Janet.
ngl if my nation's team had multiple openly racist players i wouldn't root for them and would be ashamed of being represented by them and make sure people know i don't condone them but i guess you just don't see racism as something bad enough to drop some useless ball game over. it's giving if you were born in israel you'd serve the idf
using a genocide as a comparison to this is vile and shows where you stand. I'm openly pro palestine, I've gone to several protests against Israel and our current government. I'm half Arab, they bombed the country my family is from.
Argentina is not the only country whose players are problematic. Ronaldo is a rapist. Mbappe defends a rapist on his own team. Spanish players called us monkeys after the match was over and back in 2024 they were openly racist against their sub20 football team. Robinho and Dani Alves, both from Brazil's national team, both accused of rape as well.
Argentina also refused to play against Israel back in 2018 when you bunch didn't even care about Palestine yet while Portugal gladly went against them in a match. we were the first country of Latin America to recognise Palestine as a state. Spain was sending Israel weapons just last year.
there is racism in every country. Brazil has a violent caste system that kills many black and afro descendant citizens every year. in Chile they can deny you medical attention just for being a foreigner.
I don't condone what the players have done in the past. still, I'm not gonna be ashamed of them. they represent my country and my country comes first.
Argentina has open doors for anyone that wants to set foot on its land. we let people work and study here for free. we don't discriminate based on national origin or skin colour; anyone that comes here has the same rights as a natural citizen, that's an actual law we have. not to mention: non-binary ID for those who want it, free or cheap gender affirming care, public healthcare system, 1% mandatory trans labor quota, etc.
I hope this psyop ends soon. it's clearly manufactured to make sure people stay silent and look away when we get invaded and our resources taken away by the US and Israel. it's a shame you don't see that and let manufactured hatred blind you.
also, I don't think this warrants being threatened to be assaulted violently and dismembered by the anons I mentioned in my last post. but I guess it's okay to have people openly hope I get gang raped if I ever set foot in a different country... just because I was born in a country you dislike. makes total sense.
much love to everyone. see you in a few weeks.