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Franklin Nelson Archive

[foggyinphx]

I just... I just want Foggy back

[complicatedwomenpodcast]

reassembling my mattfoggy divorced moodboard. them....

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“What my partner is trying to say, is… we’re still building a practice.”

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I adore how in Marvel Daredevil Foggy narrates his small actions and gestures to better communicate with Matt.

I imagine him continuing to do so out of habit despite knowing Matt as the daredevil.

When Matt comes through Foggys window yet again, bruised and beat up. Foggy of course immediately goes to aid, but he doesn't hide his eye roll. "Im rolling my eyes at you Murdock" when Matt grunts and struggles to get settled on the nearest chair, "Im wincing now Matty." When Foggy returns with a med kit and start to patch his buddy up as best as he can "I'm shaking my head disapprovingly." He says when he finishes.

Matt who has been silent through it all, wills up the power to get up, kisses Foggy on the forehead- "I know Foggy. Thank you." He whispers, gentle and soft as always. Then proceeds to leave as he came.

"I rolled my eyes again" Foggy says, never shouting because of couse Matt freaking Murdock could hear that.

[poepoe-thebunny]

Foggy, Fogwell's and Boxing: My Favorite Detail from the Season One Finale

Having just finished the season one finale of DD, the idea that Foggy knew about Fogwell's and Matt's boxing, but clearly didn't know about Daredevil, is fascinating to me. The fact that Matt DIDN'T know that Foggy was aware of his boxing and Fogwell's (Having assumed it had something to do with Matt's dad) is equally fascinating. Sensory wise there isn't a lot that can get past Matt most days, so Matt had to either have been working through something, or Foggy is a lot sneakier than most assume he is.

I think Foggy knowing though does explain how quickly he reorients himself around Matt post reveal. Foggy has some serious concerns with Matt as DD, partially because he's terrified of finding his best friend dead in an alley somewhere, and partially because the show's nuanced take on vigilantism and the legal system does force us to acknowledge that even if he's saving people, a random dude running around in a costume may not be the most effective way to stop crime. Obviously, we as the audience know that Matt loves his community deeply, and the corrupt police force in Hell's Kitchen is unreliable. But It's a great way to show the nuance of the everyday people in a world as big as the MCU. But most notably here, Foggy doubts Matt yes, but that doubt is very brief. Once Foggy wraps his head around the knowledge of Matt as DD, he openly states that he's starting to believe in the good of DD, even lying to Karen and saying that DD has helped them in the fight against Fisk (Which he has, just not in the way that Karen thinks). But he also begins actively reworking his own misjudgments about Matt's capabilities. Foggy has always known that Matt was an independent, capable person. Part of the reason they are friends is because Foggy acknowledges and treats Matt with adult gloves, even if he admits to feeling sorry for the issues Matt's disability brings him, something that very clearly upsets Matt. But once Foggy himself is aware of how capable Matt's hyper senses are, we see briefly that he begins to rework their dynamic. Even during the talk at Fogwell's, Foggy asks something like "Could you see that?" and simply takes Matt's word at the fact that he could. I think it reflects a lot of their relationship, Foggy not treating Matt as incapable, but simply asking casually what is and isn't the way to do something. It's surprisingly candid and I think that straightforward sort of no-nonsense casual approach is what won Matt over in the end. The realization that Foggy response to DD wasn't to view Matt as incapable, but rather to rework their system around Matt just like he's done their entire friendship, except this time the truth is fully out in the open. I think that detail, that Foggy knew about the boxing, does a lot of lifting as to how quickly he comes around once both have had time to cool. Matt's boxing history and Fogwell's aren't as big of a secret as Daredevil, but it's clearly something Matt holds close to his chest. Both due to being aware of how other people treat him and his blindness, and also because of the emotional weight it carries due to his father. I think that moment says a lot about the way Matt and Foggy function in their relationship. They aren't perfect people. Matt is traumatized and prone to guilt and being reckless. Foggy is shown to be deeply insecure, still too trusting of the system, and in some ways hesitant to run full speed into things

. Foggy's greatest flaw is not seeing the full scope of something, yes that's true, and Matt's secrets are one of them. But Foggy's greatest strength is the dignity and empathy with which he regards those secrets. DD was a secret he didn't know about. The boxing was a secret he DID know about, and instead of forcing Matt to tell him, possibly dragging up bad memories of his father, he gives Matt the space to have this secret to himself.. When Foggy reaches a point where he's needing answers, Matt knows he's not doing it with the intention of hurting Matt. Even when angry with Matt about DD, watching Matt on the couch, Foggy was angry yes, but never did he raise a voice or a hand to hurt Matt. It has likely taken years of trust, fighting, figuring out how to fight properly and coming back with the INTENTION of fixing the hurt, to set that precedent. Foggy lets Matt have his secrets, he doesn't demand them, and when he does it's only when he reaches a point of concern that someone might be hurt, most typically matt himself.

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IYKYK

I just think he deserved so much better

[foggynelsonarchive]

Growing up in the nineties as a "different" kind of kid certainly wasn't easy. But I'm sure he was stronger than all the vigilant he admired so much.

The kindest purest soul, for sure.

[coldishfries]

comic mattfoggy doodle while I practice rendering!!

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Most Homoerotic Moment: Round One Match Ten of Thirty-Two

"No, baby, I'm with you. You and me. Old times, new times, all the time."

Matt saving Foggy from hell

Voting ended onMay 22

[pedro-reed]

Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe ↳ Foggy Nelson

[marcspector]

Daredevil v3 #17 / Superior Iron Man #3

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[chrlie-cox]

[miffy-piastri]

i miss foggy so much

[foggynelsonarchive]

I just wish I knew what Marvel/Disney thinks they're gaining, by treating Foggy the way they have.

Financially...Story-Wise...Foggy being erased from Daredevil is like McDonald's saying "Hey, we're not selling burgers anymore. We're going to offer nothing but tacos now!". Like, what is the benefit of not only taking out one of the pillars of the whole show, but then doubling down, and doing arcs where he is a very important part without him??

(*Siiiigh*) It just makes no sense, man...

I like your analogy.

You know, I wish there was someone brave enough to sit down in front of Dario and everyone else and ask each one about this decision. Because I don't buy this story of "We thought about keeping him in a cage, but it would be too unrealistic, but hey, we're the good guys and we love him, okay?"

The other day, Mr. D'Onofrio, out of the blue, commented on one of my posts that they intend to bring Foggy back in flashbacks because they love Foggy and Elden so much, and I highly doubt both of those connotations.

Even if they keep resorting to wigs and de-aging, that's clearly impossible. I also don't think they're going to make Foggy a ghost in Matt's mind.

I believe Foggy's story is over, unfortunately.

What I've seen is new fans simply accepting that Foggy had to die for… long sigh... a greater good and that it was a beautiful tribute to him, while a large part of the real og Daredevil fans are simply giving up the series, and rightfully so.

With the original, most loyal, and oldest fans ceasing to care, the creators feel free to adapt Foggy's arcs for other characters. It's great; nobody will care if it's someone else who gets Matt's license back or scenes like this one.

Or if another character has cancer, or if another character has an abusive mother who happens to be a lawyer as well.

The big problem I see, and I'm not the only one, so let me make it clear I'm not the paranoid one here, is that in the minds of the fans and the people behind Born Again, Foggy is chubby and useless. He doesn't fit into this new show, he didn't deserve a happy ending.

Look at how he was written in the first episode.

Karen says, "He does not have the game for Kirsten McDuffie."

Why? Usually, friends lift each other up and don't belittle them as if they weren't good enough.

But why wouldn't a man like him have a chance with Kirsten? What was so wrong with that Foggy in Karen's mind?

Foggy doesn't fit into a series where villains have to be hot to be loved, and women have to be badass and skinny.

Foggy was just… Foggy.

He was too human, flawed, he drank, he swore, he bribed, he argued with his friends for their own good, and he protected them. But he was just a chubby guy, and now in the eyes of the new fans, he's just a fembot, a bridge that led Karen to Matt, Matt to Dex, Matt to Fisk… He'll never be able to be just Foggy and tell his own story.

Why did his mother want him to be a butcher? We'll never know what happened to Marci either.

We even have Brett back, but we don't have Foggy, and look, Brett never existed in the comics.

Those who truly love the characters don't readily accept what they're doing to the new Daredevil. That isn't Matt, that isn't Karen.

Karen was good because she was intelligent, smart, and a shrewd investigator, not a fighter and lawyer like she is now. Matt cared, now he's an empty shell staring blankly at Foggy's memory. The real Matt wouldn't forgive Dex.

Fans who truly care will always miss Foggy and will always feel outraged by the way he was humiliated, made a fool of, and discarded. There will still be those who will watch and recognize the gaps where Foggy would fit in, or even the scenes and storyline of his that are being given to other characters.

I love what Elden said, that Foggy existed before him and will always exist*, and who knows, maybe one day Foggy will receive the justice he deserves at the hands of more competent people.

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[comicpolls]

Favourite Civilian: Semi-Finals Match One of Two

Foggy Nelson

Linda Park

Voting ended onMay 17

[pomegranate-belle]

If you know anything about me at all, you probably know I love Foggy Nelson (and that should be enough to secure your vote, right? ;D). If you don't know anything about me, or Foggy, let me tell you why he deserves to make it to the top of this tournament.

Foggy was first introduced in Daredevil #1 in 1964 - the very first issue of Daredevil ever penned. He and Matt have been best friends and business partners quite literally since their creation. And loving his best friend is one of Foggy's core aspects, one that's lasted through sixty years of ups and downs, of zany superhero antics and multiple faked deaths, of trips to space and hell itself! These two are so inseparable that most alternate Daredevils in the Marvel multiverse also have a Foggy - truly the mold of "frequently bought together, do not separate". Please have a compilation of many (but certainly not all) of their hugs.

Through all that time, Foggy hasn't ever gotten superpowers or become a vigilante - but he's beloved anyway, by fans and other Marvel characters alike. He doesn't need to be upgraded or made more powerful and important; he's already the most important person in the Marvel universe to his best friend.

Being almost aggressively civilian doesn't mean Foggy's necessarily normal, either, though. We are, after all, talking about a guy who pretended to be a gangster and blew cigar smoke in the face of the Kingpin (godspeed "Guts" Nelson, you are a legend).

He's done some pretty crazy stuff over the years, sometimes in the name of protecting his friends, and sometimes in the name of impressing a girl (mood, we've all been there, buddy). He's got a complex inner life that's constantly given importance on the page, including complicated feelings about his best friend being a superhero, severe mommy issues and self-esteem problems, an arc where he survives cancer, and his fair share of relationship troubles. He can be funny, or snarky, but he's not relegated to being the butt of every joke, which is great to see for a fat character.

In conclusion:

[foggyinphx]

Well, what do you think?

(Vol. 1, #222)

[foggynelsonarchive]

Handsome, as always

[foggynelsonarchive]

It's been years since Foggy was with someone, and I'm curious to know who this is.

He just deserves some peace and quiet, and I love it when he's having a good time, simply enjoying life as he should.

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