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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BILLY!!!!!! 🥳🥳
TW/ SA/Rape, and allegories for such via supernatural means, child abuse, murder & self sacrifice of a teenager, grooming of a teenager, and other shit Billy Hargrove had to deal with.
Just saw a post saying someone thinks Billy would have kids just to beat them up.
I don't like throwing this around non-jokingly. But either get therapy or throw yourself in a hole and fucking rot in hell. That boy was barely even EIGHTEEN when was murdered! He was abused and broke his whole fucking life, watched his mother be advised before she left him to their abuser- And then when he was seventeen he started being looked at like am object by GROWN FUCKING WOMEN, and was groomed. One of them almost fucking slept with him (which would've been rape)! Then he got possessed and raped by the Mind Flayer (Don't even try with that bullshit, it is clear as the sky on a sunny day that the Mind Flayer and ask the shit Henry/Vecna keeps doing is an allegory for rape) and forced to hurt people. And then after ONE act of kindness from a STRANGER- He was able to beat the MF's control and sacrifice himself. TO PROTECT A CHILD.
He WOULD NEVER fucking abuse his kids. IF he had any to begin with, as someone who's gone through basically all the same shit as him, minus the supernatural parts obviously, I don't even fucking WANT to have kids out of fear I'd ACCIDENTALLY hurt them or fuck them up somehow. I am so SICK of people trying to act like he's just as bad as Neil. DO NOT COMPARE PEOPLE (especially fucking teenagers who are still stuck with them-) TO THEIR FUCKING ABUSERS!
Bro, I saw that post and my jaw dropped, like what the hell?! Disregarding the fact it was accidentally incorrectly tagged, that is one HELL of a take to have! I know some people really don't like him, but for crying out loud dude... do any Billy antis understand the concept of 'if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all'? Media literacy and mischaracterisation aside, it's not like there was any need for that to be said in the first place? It honestly felt like a purposefully spiteful jab at Billy and was just so out if place when you take in the context of the entire post too. They could have just left it as it was without needing to include the only negative (albeit very short and unnecessary) comment about a character they made sure to clearly point out in the tags that they didn't like (which again, wasn't needed either). It completely ruined the rest of the post and undermined what they were saying about the other characters imo.
I understand people don't find unpaletable victims inherently appealing, but an assumption like that, and the implications it has towards irl abuse victims, isn't really something that can be glossed over just because he isn't well liked.
Also, thank you so much @tomatette and @keaganz for asking for the person to remove it from the main tag
P.S I 100% agree with you about him being scared of having kids in fear of becoming like Neil. You shouldn't even need to experience it yourself or study psychology to comprehend that an abused and broken boy wouldn't automatically turn into the embodiment of evil and create a life for the sole purpose of repeating the cycle. Some people are just braindead smh 😞
"Oh, Billy flirted with Karen so she was in the right"
Children and teenagers having interest in adults is a very normal thing, it's part of the whole figuring out sexuality thing. But, as an adult, when a minor flirts or otherwise expresses interest, it is our job both morally and legally to either turn them down or ignore the advances. It is never okay to take advantage of them and flirt back, let alone groom them until they're (barely) legal for sex. I don't care if he flirted first, that's literally normal teenager behavior. She never should have responded the way she did. His actions were normal and can even be considered healthy, her actions as an adult twice his age were not.
As adults, it's our responsibility to not take advantage of children for sex, regardless of any interest they may express. I'm very new to this adult thing but even I know that. She's twice my age, she should know it, too. Her actions were not okay.
i swear chat if i see ONE more person use another abuse victim as a scapegoat to demonise billy i will go insane
comparing hopper to billy is an invalid and dumb arguement for a number of reasons.
for starters, hopper is a grown ass man, who has had YEARS away from his abuser, he has a loving partner and three kids he can now call his own. as well as a wide range support system.
billy was a child being actively abused and groomed with no one to look after him or to protect him but himself. not to mention he died before he ever got the chance to even plan what his freedom would be like.
Antis are so dense there's no point in trying to change their minds 🙄
Anyway here's a little video of Billy lmao
um so if yall wanna talk about characters who get violated and allegories etc etc….
like billy is a character who CONSTANTLY loses his autonomy. if its not neil running his life its gross ass women treating this CHILD like a piece of meat and then he is LITERALLY turned into a puppet but an interdimensional being that, lets call it what it is, molests him.
billy is never treated as a person. by anyone in the show, or by anyone WRITING the show. the ONLY people to ever give him any humanity are dacre himself, and eleven.
but yall dont wanna listen to that yall don wanna receive that because boohoo hes not a perfect meek victim. he had the audacity to be pissed off about his circumstances and lash out. so yall gonna sit there and create a false narrative about how he wanted everything bad thing that came his way, that he deserved it like genuinely do you hear yourselves???
have your personhood stripped from you at every turn and see how well you adjust.
billy is THE most tragic character of stranger things no that is not up for debate. if you dont see that thats your own damn problem sort it out yourself stop making it everyone elses problem
Also the way they literally paralleled Billy’s flaying with Max getting Vecna’d, basically beat for beat. Getting grabbed by the ankle, being dragged across the ground, trying to hold onto something, this gif…
I’m unwell
Oh, and while we’re at it, did we forget this line?
Male!Billy Hargrove is soo hot🔥But what about fem!Billy Hargrove😳
Want more?
I am done being polite. I am done being reasonable, I am done with the idea that I have to be the better person, if one more person shows up on any feed with your narrow minded, pea brain bullshit about being anti-billy because you can't process basic information like fiction, nuisance and story writing I will actually start getting disrespectful about it.
You are the same whores that like bakugo even though he told deku to fucking kill himself, the same motherfuckers that ships children together, the same bitches that want to literally fuck serial killers like Billy and stu or Henry fucking Creel. Grow the fuck up you fucking little child, we all tried to be nice to you about your opinions.
We have never once told you that you should fucking die for your love of characters, we have not once told you to delete your work, or change it, or label you vile things for the fuckin characters you enjoy, but you know how many of you anti Billy cucks have? ALL OF YOU. you call us the villains?? The monsters?? Oh I'm sorry did we tell people to fucking kill themselves over fictional bloody characters? NO. You did!!! I swear to God I am a live wire and I'm ready to lose my fucking shit.
Yes! Serious question, because I didn't get an answer, how does liking Billy mean that younger Byler shouldn't be cannon? I am neutral on the younger Byler ship. I thought we left the shipping wars behind after the whole liking Hannigram = pro child murder debacle.
And yes, I did feel slighted for being called a racist homophobic conservative bigoted transphobic Trumpist for liking a fictional character. Also, as someone pointed out the hypocrisy of saying that while inhaling the farts of someone that actively endorse genocide and literal child murder is staggering!
Honestly solid question. I don't care if it's canon or not. It literally doesn't matter to me. They are fictional characters. They don't control my life. Billy leaves an impact yes, but if Billy never comes back I'm not going to fucking kill myself or something. I have issues with how people handle their ship. I am now seeing borderline cultist propaganda for bylers. Talking about how it has to be canon or order to save homophobia or some shit it was fucking delusional. If I said they should be canon it was probably from anger or how they love it so much and used it as a way to harbor hate. Cause in reality if it does become canon they will get worse because they would think they won with their argument. I want fandom to be a safe space, not one of war and hatred.
I completely agree, there is just too much hatred for Billy fans, and it doesnt even stop at the Stranger things community! And there really wasnt a need for that person to be so passive aggressive to Billy fans in that one particular post. Yeah, post whatever character analysis and interpretations you want, but dont stereotype Billy fans as right-winged, homophobic bigots who try to push heteronornative agendas onto queer people when the vast majority of us aren't. He's a fictional character for christs sake! Why cant people accept that you dont have to glorify his actions in order to enjoy him as a character? It's as if Billy antis refuse to believe that people are able to seperate real life from fiction, or ignore people's ability to see the potential in his character just because he wasnt given a chance to change in the show. Its even more mind boggling that they cant comprehend being able to extend empathy to someone who isnt a 'perfect' victim. Like dude, tons of people fawn over William Afton and yet you dont see people screaming at them to kill themselves because liking him is 'condoning and perpetuating child murder', so why do it to us? Its just ridiculous
Another, another Billy redraw
Hey guys! Thanks so much for the support on my previous posts, it's really meant a lot to me. Im sorry I havent posted in a while, I've been busy with exams n shit, but I hope another Billy picture will suffice 🤗
Ta Da! ✨️✨️
I started this buggar a few months ago, and its just been festering in my galley for aaaaaaaaaages! The face definitely took the longest (his nose was the hardest to get right, it's just too smooth and perfect), and there was no way in hell I was gonna be able to recreate that background 😅.
On a seperate note, does anyone else think his red shirt is one of his best outfits? Good lord...the tight jeans and slightly oversized red button up tucked into said jeans... It was a fashion statement to say the least. Mwah, chef's kiss🤌
"Billy killed people" while he was possessed, if we want to use that as an excuse to hate Billy then I can for sure hate will for getting hundreds of men at the lab slaughtered and he full on knew what was going on more so than Billy did. When Billy was possessed he completely lost control of himself and you can see that if you actually watch the show.
Also Eleven constantly killed people so bffr
"Billy is racist" even the actors for Lucas and Billy disagreed with that, also I would even say that if you actually look at his backstory with his father you see that Billy seen his dad and mom fight a lot, then he sees his sister and Lucas fighting (as his first impression on him) so he doesn't like seeing that happening.
"Billy is abusive" yes, you know who else is? Neil, you know who Neil was abusive to? BILLY. do you know what happens to someone that's been abused? the cycle continues.
"but max doesn't want to be like that" Max ALSO has a parent at home that cares about her, Billy doesn't. Billy's mother abandoned him to possibly die from his abusive father, and then Neil would constantly rub into Billy's face that he is with a new woman now and that Billy better accept that fact or suffer the consequences.
"but Jonathan was abused too and he isn't like that" first, I don't even remember that, if anything I know Lonnie bullied/abused Will, verbally, BUT you're forgetting one very obvious thing. LONNIE LEFT, not Joyce, the toxic parent left and the god parent stayed. Billy's mother, the kinder parent, the one that actually cared, LEFT.
I will actually make a better post that goes in depth about Billy and his character because I think he is actually one of the best written characters ever and he deserved more screentime, a second chance, redemption, all of the above.
WHO LOVE MA BOI FIZZY??!!
My sister's art 😚
Another S3 Billy frame redraw
Since you all recieved my first post so well, I thought I might as well try my hand at another scene I've been wanting to draw. For 9 hours of work, im impressed with myself.
I decided to post it now before I try to add more, or else I'd be stuck editing for at least a few more days 😅
If you couldnt tell, I edited it again after exporting the video (it takes aaaaaaaaages to re-export)
Thanks for all the likes and reposts on my other one. I hope you like this one too :3
Billy Hargrove S3 frame redraw
My first post on tumblr, thought it should be Billybob. He deserves more love ☺️
I hope you like it
(I must admit, his eyes and nose were an absolute pain in the ass to get right)