His scenes with papa we cute and all, and he was the star of the show so to speak, but that being said, I hate his portration in the movie.
For starters, he became the 'main villain' of the movie only because Bowser is...the way he is through nearly the entire movie ( see my previous post). In a way, he feels more crueler than even Bowser. In the games hes portraied as a more mischivious child, helping his dad conquer the world, and getting bored easily. In the movie he's the one doing the conquering, and the imprisoning and the torturing, and not to mention the fighting. And, dare I say, he's doing all that better than Bowser ever did.
I understand he had to be more capable than his game counterpart, but did they have to amp him up this much?
My second gripe with his portration is that hes supposed to be a teenager..but he doesnt look like one. He looks like his regular kid design with nothing changed. Even worse that the only difference between his baby and regular look is his size. Thers literally no other change. He's still the toohless little kid like he always is. And the worst part of this is his voice. I really really hate his voice still. It doesnt suit his very young kid looks and I have no idea why they thought it would be ok. And not to mention, the eyes. His eyes are as uncanny as ever, and they should've just made him have regular eyes like his dad at that point. But of course they would never stray from his patented game design, no matter how unsuitable it looks for ceartain things.
Another gripe is his cruelty to princess Peach in particular. They don't have that much interactions in the games, but at one point he did call her his mama. That means he liked her, and would want her to be a part of their koopa familly. But in the movie it would seem he would rather scewer, burn and bo-bom her instead. If he was doing it as a revenge for his father's imprisonment it was never made clear in the movie.
I dont see movie version Jr ever becoming friends with, or not wanting to kill both Mario and Peach. Its sad really.
My final gripe? His various 'forms'. They're cool and all but whats the point of them. They don't seem to make him stronger or give him special powers. It feels like they're just there as part of the kajillion references in the movie.
His only saving grace are all the little moments with Bowser where he somewhat reverts to his game self for a bit. I really wanted to like him, but I just can't. This is not what he was supposed to be like, and I'm sad we are forever stuck with this version of him for the movie.
Again, this movie is a complete mess and I hate how its ruining its own characters for the sake of game references..
I wanna say spoilers below, but I think everyone has watched it already. Its long read ahead, you've been warned
Yes it was fine, quite more chaotic than the first one. I can see why some people are complaining about the "no plot/ substance" thing, but seriously, there is a plot and substance...just the bare bones of it is all. This movie kind of felt shorter than the previous one. There were simultaneously too many stuff going on and also nothing much happening inbetween, idk.
The highlights:
Bowser and Jr. So glad they had this much screen time. The first movie didn't have nearly enough screen time of Bowser I think. Jr in particular really stole the show, and all the Bowser/ Jr moments were perfection.
But the "downgrade". Compared to first movie, Bowser is all over the place. He's completely OOC for most of the movie in my opinion. I can't see him ever agreeing to any kind of "therapy" or joining a book club of all things. He's too conceited, too manipulative and too full of anger for those things to ever work on him. The cracks show throughout the whole movie, because you can't stuff down all his bad traits. They're all definitily still there, seeping out when he inevitably loses his temper. And he might be apologetic at first, saying stuff like "still working through my demons", but I doubt he ever wanted to change to what they made him in the movie. People say that Jr. brainwashed him back to being 'evil', but I think the real brainwashing was this "therapy session". We are definitely missing a massive chunk of what happened during his imprisonment, and what made him fall for "therapy".
Personally I think his mind just cracked from desperation and loneliness. He was locked up and surrounded by people he hates, and who hate him back, for what looked like many months. He was probably deeply humiliated by his defeat, and having creatures that he deems much weaker than himself, treat him like a small pest and locking him up in a tiny cage made his failure even deepr. And most likely, he was by himslef most of the time, no minions to keep him company, nothing at all reminding him of home and being stuck in enemy territory, completely at their mercy. And worst of all, the one who defeated him was also there, being all friendly with "his Princess".
And maybe he thought he could fool them, be 'good' and 'work though his demons' just long enough for them to trust him and free him, which would've been in character for him. And it worked just as he planned, people were beginning to trust him, or fall for his act rather ( well except for Mario). But somewhere along the way he started to lose himself, becoming something that he wasn't, hence we get this 'good and reworked' version of Bowser.
And I was half expecting for him to finally drop the act when Mario lost his own temper and made him big. But no... instead we got more of brainwashed Bowser, who proceeded to make frineds with Mario now, something he would never ever do under any circumstance. Mario is ,and will awlays continue to be, his rival when it comes to princess Peach, and his enemy. Someone Bowser easilly hates and somone who he sometimes reluctantly works with. The only time Bowser acted even romotely friendly like in the movie, was in the game Brothership. And even then everyone was in a state of dreaming. That's how much Bowser being friendly with Mario is utterly ridiculous, and out of character for him. If anything, it just solidifies that he's been brainwashed by 'therapy' for him to act this way.
This brings us to the other OOC thing. His 'friendship' with Luigi.
Yeah, what even is going on there... I wanted to excuse Luigi somewhat, for he is naive and genuinely sees and encourages the good in people around him, but I can't. He's OOC here too. Both in the games and first movie he's afraid of Bowser, understandably so. I can't think of a single time where he isn't with Mario if they're 'forced' to work with Bowser. I doubt he'd ever go near him if he's by himself, even more so after the first movie. Bowser tried to kill him, said he'd do so infront his own brother even, and Bowser even tortured him a little bit. Luigi saw first hand just how frightening Bowser actually is, and the second movie completely erased that fact. Instead Luigi has become a part of Bowser's "therapy". He encourages him, he trusts him, he's friendly with him.
My "kind of excuse" for his attitude? Luigi has forgotten how frightening Bowser is because he's small and in a cage. He treats Bowser like a pet for the entire movie, even after he gets big, because Bowser still acts 'good'.
And from Bowser's side? He latched onto Luigi because he was the first one to fall for his 'act', and continues to fall up untill Bowser becomes himself again.
Jr. is the one who saves Bowser. He reminds him of who he is and where he belongs, and Bowser finally errupts with the feelings he has most likely pushed and buried deep in him so he could act 'good'.
"Good Bowser" would've made sense if he cut the act the moment he became big ( or when they left him alone with the Queesn Bee), but instead they messed him up. I feel like, even without Jr's help he would've eventually found himslef again. And he didn't need "therapy" to bring out his 'goodness', because he already has good traits. But, he only shows them to the people he most cherishes, like Jr. for example. And he can be cooperative and work with the enemy, but nothing like he did in the second movie. This Bowser was completely wrong, and not how he should've been portrayed.
About princess Peach and Rosalina.
I'm not sure about the sister thing ( and no, I don't ship them..) It's just, what does it even mean? Rosalina seems like an ethereal being that's lived for..probably as long as the cosmos has existed, and Peach seems like a..normal human. Rosalina has cosmic powers, and Peach has nothing at all aside from being kind of agile. Them being sisters kind of makes no sense. Is Peach going to manifest some god-like powers in the third movie now? She's already overpowered normally, I don't know what giving her even more powers would accomplish.
Like, I'm happy she finally found her real familly, but whats the point of her being a cosmic being and not a regular human.
All in all, this movie is a mess. Hopefully the third one will be better, but eh...it probably won't be.
Me trying to focus on drawing pages, but then I see a bunch of movie screen shots on twitter and I just....( I totally did not doom scroll all day just to spoil myself )
If I dont see this movie soon I'm gonna f*king explode