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he didn't know who was going to shoot until the very last minute
What is the very last minute? We have all seen his writings. In the middle of august, he wrote about how the target was UHC, that he had been learning about it, the details are coming together and it checks every box.
In October, he wrote about whacking the ceo at the insurance conference. So ?
no one realized he's missing until it's time for him to attend his friends wedding. the ones in hawaii even kaitlyn cared about him more than his social circle in gilman sad tbh
Idk it makes more sense that the people where he lived would notice his absence before the people back home. But honestly the main thing is that we have no idea about the behind the scenes, just what was posted on social media, including that kaitlyn was trying to push his parents to do more apparently. We don’t even know his entire social circle, we don’t know who he was close to in Hawaii other than kaitlyn. The loudest ppl talking about him aren’t the closest
He appears pretty avoidant to me, and the whole situation and the things others have said about him, like how RJ said he wouldn’t see him for a week and Luigi would say he was bedridden and that he wouldn’t ask for help or make a deal out of it, Adam texting him in June trying to check in on him, saying he realised he hadn’t heard from him in a while, his mum not knowing where he lived or working… it could indicate that he usually keeps a distance.
Lack of natural discipline and impulse control, and a conscious awareness of this lack; consequently prone to "overcompensating" by "reprogramming" self-regulatory habits in an offbeat and extreme way that he will then show off to others.
this is very true; he didn't wait to be properly healed and went out to do "adventure" lack of patience. he was still healing and was advised to take months off but didn't fully listen. eager to leave reddit fusion post asking others to do surgery; in a way showing off to others that he heals quickly (but he didn't heal properly irl)
I think I see this situation differently to most and I’m really not sure why.
He said he was putting off the surgery for years because he was scared of it (and idk who wouldn’t be), and kinda implied that he had it too late. He repeatedly said to others that if it’s affecting your nerves, then you need surgery before permanent nerve damage sets in. From his posts, it’s clear it was affecting his nerves for at LEAST a year before surgery. The only thing that prompted surgery was an A&E visit (reported by the news, and we can infer a bit of the details from his Reddit comments around that time) that happened a couple weeks prior to the fusion.
From my perspective, it seems like he’s trying to prevent others going through what he went through and is currently going through. To get the surgery before it affects your nerves. Like he knows the surgery can only do so much, and he wants others to get it before they get past the point of no return.
Lemme find and paste his Reddit comments to back this up with evidence before I continue/
“With a grade 2/3 at 24 y.o. and near-constant burning/twitching in both ankles/calves since March, I don't see myself avoiding this for too long lol. But just trying to learn as much as I can before the surgery comes.” - mister cactus sept ‘22
“I got caught in this loop for a year, all the while putting my life on hold in my 20's and damaging my nerves while I waffled on the decision. I have surgery scheduled in two weeks and I keep wondering why I was so afraid of it
Surgery is not a 100% guarantee, but that's not something we can control. And once it hits this bad, we probably have to do it anyway. With axial back pain only, it's probably safe to wait until it's unbearable. With sciatica as a symptom, sooner can only be better imo” - mister cactus, July ‘23 (a few days after the A&E visit)
“In my case I had surgery 2 weeks ago because I had nerve issues. Surgery was painful for the first couple days, but I was shocked that by day 7 I was on literally zero pain meds. Can sit, walk, stand as long as I want and I don't even feel the fusion. Obviously will be awhile until I get into rigorous activity, but it was way less of a big deal than I had anticipated” - Aug 23
“Had L5/S1 fusion 3 months ago. I may be an outlier, but at day 8 I was taking zero pain meds and haven't had a bad day since. I even had an open TLIF as opposed to the newer minimally invasive surgeries. The surgery wasn't nearly as scary as I made it out to be in my head, and I knew it was the right decision within a week, and that I won't have to bother with injections or future surgery for many years.” - oct 23
“If you can feel it moving, it's moving. That isn't in your head. I had the same exact experience.
I had the same exact experience with doctor's dismissing that symptom. I think it's so bizarre and horrific sounding they literally can't believe it lo.
Goods news is that feeling goes away completely after surgery once your stabilized. Time for surgery and to find a doc who listens.” - feb ‘24
“Yea I had L5/S1 spinal fusion 6 months ago after 1.5 years of failed conservative treatment. Within 7 days of the fusion I was on zero pain meds. […] (my point is just that your body isn't supposed to be in pain and need meds.)
[…] From childhood until age 23, my back would always ache if I stood too long, but it wasn't too bad. Imo that sort of achy symptom makes sense to medicate if it's bothersome. But once the spine is unstable and you can feel the bones moving/grinding, that isn't something you try to medicate. That's something you go in and fix.“ - feb ‘24
“If your spine is broken and unstable to the point where you can't run, do you want to be walking around with that? What are you going to wait until you take a bad fall and that instability causes some real nerve damage and you NEED surgery?
To be honest, once the pain becomes low-grade but all the time, it could be time for surgery. I mean the situation sucks for sure, but the solution isn't to retreat into a bubble.
Fwiw I'm 25 years old with a L5/S1 fusion. It's clear to me that the day my spondy went bad to the point where I felt it every day, I had crossed the threshold into surgery though it took me a year to realize this. Generally speaking, back surgery is a serious decision and PT is sufficient for most people, but with instability it's a different game.”
“…we have 50+ years of data on spinal fusions and we know it works well in cases of instability. Don't try to reinvent the wheel.”
There’s lots to criticise him about but his encouragement for surgery and the way he goes about healing isn’t it imo.
He has multiple issues related to his back. The aim of the fusion is meant to fix the instability of the spine. Which it seems like the surgery has mostly accomplished, given what he said in Jules’ letter about how he would feel his spine sliding for a year and a half.
I could be wrong of course, but when he talks about the lack of pain on Reddit, it seems like he’s only referring to back pain. Which, when you read the posts he’s replying to, makes sense. He never really talks about how the surgery has impacted his nerves.
With a condition so time-sensitive, and with seemingly lots of doctors telling sufferers that they’re too young for surgery, I’m really glad he was taking the time to encourage others to get surgery.
I really don’t see him stating that he was shocked at how fast he came off pain meds as showing off. He was clearly very scared about it, and was trying to communicate that it wasn’t as scary as it seemed. Idk if it’s his style of communication that makes it hard to see this, but it’s clear to me (but I’m neurodivergent so maybe that’s why? There have been others outside of this space who said his tweets and Reddit have a strong neurodivergence flavour, and it is likely a factor in how he’s perceived. And NO I’m not trigger!!!!!a broken clock is right twice a day)
Another thing to note is that it’s apparently common for back surgery recipients to feel way better for months or even up to a year after surgery, then as things settle, pain starts. Maybe that’s the case, and that compounded with the fusion potentially being botched, nerve damage, the suffering he has already been through, and other factors like deep regret and depression, I can completely understand if he wasn’t able to see any light at the end of the tunnel and thought “fuck it. I’m going out with a bang, and take the trash out with me”, since the nerve damage has already happened and the surgery wasn’t meant to fix that.
I don’t see it as a lack of disciple or impulse control, followed by extreme reprogramming. There are other things pointing to that like where he mentions gaming and his addictive personality, but in this context, it feels like nearly the opposite. Putting off surgery and clearly considering it deeply, getting opinions on it, sticking with conservative treatment for a year and a half, managing to exercise consistently enough to get jacked, all whilst struggling with severe chronic pain…
this is very true; he didn't wait to be properly healed and went out to do "adventure" lack of patience.
Lack of patience, sure maybe, but he will never properly heal in the way he probably wants to. Plus spinal fusions are not a one and done. It’s common for it to get bad again and to have revisions. I see it as someone at the end of their tether who had a mental breakdown after trying to hold it together for so long, and I think that chalking it up to a “lack of discipline” or patience etc. is incredibly reductive and not fair at all.
And when you look at his accomplishments, gilman valedictorian requires the highest gpa over 4 years, struggling during college but persisting and graduating with a masters, getting promoted nearly every year as a data engineer until he quit/got fired lmao, and all of this without a significant break in between…I dont think the lack of discipline is as big of a deal as that post made it out to be. At the very least he has discipline where it matters the most
I agree with some of the other points made. But
not sure why this wasn't being dissected more by his supporters!
i agree with your first three points, particularly your first and second, we know this was premeditated (allegedly 🤬), from one of the prosecution's fillings pertaining his diary entries, he even said himself that it was something he was going back and forth about for a while. i significantly agree with your second point too, luigi is a grown man, and there’s very little chance his social circle back home would know before the people who were most recently around him. people back home would only know what he chose to share with them. one of his friends was even @'ing him on twitter to see if luigi was still going to attend his wedding because luigi wasn't responding to him either, they also said they were worried as well. it's honestly so extremely sad for them all:
his friends mother also made an account to reach out to him the day after he (allegedly 🤬) arrived in new york:
overall, i agree with a lot of what you said !
i'll post the rest of the asks tmr, i made the hashtag and will go back and tag the other pdb anon responses tomorrow as well 🎉