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korean jikookers are going crazy because of what jungkook said to jimin when jimin was being flirty with him. they're saying they can't explain but apparently the "you're ridiculous" translation isn't accurate enough? can you try to explain it better for us please ๐
Hi!! I'm really glad I've been getting asks about this moment because it was one of my favorites. What Jungkook says to Jimin is "๋ณ๊ผด์ด์ผ" which can translate to "you're ridiculous", imo, but what makes it hard to translate is that this 'ridiculous' has to be delivered in a very specific tone to convey the meaning of ๋ณ๊ผด. Again and again, I keep finding that the show's subtitles aren't wrong, but they can't convey the subtleties in Jikook's interactions. (This isn't to blame the translator, it's a common ocurrence with subtitles due to their concise nature!)
๋ณ๊ผด is an unexpected, bizarre thing. One of my favorite examples to describe the feeling of this word comes from this dictionary:
๊ฐ:์ ย ์ฌ๋ย ๋ด!ย ์ดย ์ถ์ดย ๊ฒจ์ธ์ย ๋ฐ์๋งคย ํฐ์
์ธ ์ย ๋ฐ๋ฐ์ง๋งย ์
๊ณ ย ์์ด.ย
look at that person! They're wearing a short-sleeve T-shirt in the middle of this cold winter.
๋:์ ๋งย ๋ณ๊ผด์ด๋ค
They're really crazy/that's ridiculous/what a weirdo, seriously
As you can see, there are many ways to translate it, but they all convey that same meaning of 'you're being weird/ridiculous.'
Now, Jikook. To nobody's surprise, they're flirting. I think Jimin is pretending they're at a bar and he's paid for JK's drink to get his attention/flirt with him. So he's faking to be the stranger that paid his drink and waves at him coily from the other end of the bar (what's up with these guys and roleplaying...) Then, JK says 'you're being ridiculous' with a huge grin on his face.
What I think is making K-Jjkers crazy is that this response is heavily flirty as well. It can be used when couples or someone is being too cheesy or 'cringy'. JK's response is giving 'don't say such nonsense *blushes, smiles, twirls hair*'. He's flustered. Jimin fakes offense to his comment by turning around, and they break into giggles. You see what I mean? he's not really calling him ridiculous at all.
As Jikookers, we've seen this sentence used in the same way once before. Remember "my favorite thing these days is, hmm... waking up and seeing Jungkookie?" and Tae's response, "BOOO that's nonsense!" He said the same thing, ๋ณ๊ผด์ด์ผ. It can be used when couples or someone is being too cheesy or 'cringy'.
In sum, Jikook be jikooking, anon.