A new take on HAES

It's impossible to be healthy and overweight, but it is possible to change. Healthy practices can be picked up by anyone at anytime. While you cannot tell someone's lifestyle and health by their appearance, health is very much impacted by weight. This blog is dedicated to fighting harmful misinformation spread by the HAES/fat positivity movement, pointing out hypocrisies and giving critisism to the present HAES/fat positivity movement, and promoting a healty lifestyle. This blog is also for male positivity.

[haes-revisionist]

My thoughts on the present HAES movement:

Aweful. Just terrible. No you cannot be obese and healthy. You can't even be more than a little overweight and perfectly healthy. Being overweight is more than just a descriptor, it's a disease. And it's the number one preventable cause of death in the US and many other countries.

However, it is possible to be living a healthy lifestyle at any size. Anyone of any weight can have a healthy diet, get enough exercise, and be on the way to a healthy weight if they aren't already there.

I am obese. I used to be class 2, but now I'm class 1. I am living a healthy lifestyle. Even if it doesn't look like it now one day it will as I achieve my goal weight.

This is what the HAES movement originally meant. You can't judge someone's lifestyle just by looking at them. That obese man may have been morbidly obese in the past. That thin woman could be on the cusp of being overweight and heading there quickly.

The movement was originally supposed to be a community where people came together and focused on living a healthy lifestyle no matter what size they were, used to be, or are moving from. Like a more inclusive version of the fitness community.

But now? Now all these fat activists have taken over the movement and claimed that HAES means something that it was directly railing against: weight gain and obesity.

A healthy obese person is an oxymoron. However, obese people can adopt a healthy lifestyle and be on the road to recovery.

That's why I call myself a HAES traditionalist. I fully support the original idea, but completely resent what it has become.

[haes-revisionist]

Upon some further research, it appears that I was not completely right on the original HAES movement and it's goals. It's founder, Lindel/Lindo Bacon, did believe that you cannot judge someone's lifestyle by their appearance and everyone should be encouraged to adopt a healthy lifestyle. However, they also believed and advocated much of the bullshit that the present HAES movement does (such as weight having no impact on health, there being no healthy or sustainable way to lose weight, etc.)

Therefore, I have made the decision to rebrand. I will no longer call myself a HAES traditionalist but rather a HAES revisionist. Basically, I will still advocate for the things listed in the original post and against the present HAES movement and their ideas, but under a new title for this combination of beliefs.

[slimnotsorry]

That lower belly bulge is not your uterus, it's fat.

The uterus sits 3-4 inches behind the abdomen, tucked away behind the pelvic bone. If you are not pregnant, you shouldn't be able to see or feel your uterus under the skin.

The lower belly bulge that many women have is actually just fat. It's normal to have extra fat there, it can be protective of inner organs. But it's entirely possible and normal and even sometimes healthy for women to have a completely flat abdomen.

Having a flat tummy does NOT make someone less of a woman, it does not mean they're fake or photoshopped, it does not make them unhealthy, and I'm tired of seeing this disinformation everywhere. The more you know.

[fat-acceptance-is-bs]

*Unless you are already fat and start losing weight, especially if you are a public person

*One quick search on tik tok will prove that it definitely is hating on “straight size” people

*Again, one search on tik tok will prove that it is. And they throw in that not finding bigger bodies attractive is rooted in misogyny, racism, ableism and some times even antisemitism. Because you can “choose” who you find attractive?

*Definitely many activists uses it to be those things, getting to the point they have to use wheelchairs and get on benefits. And not taking accountability of their own actions and continue doing them in spite of the consequences

*All they talk about is loving yourself no matter what size, that fat people are hot and attractive and so on. this is just BS

*the # fatphobicDoctors would not have been so popular if it wasn’t for that they try to rule out silence so they can call themselves healthy. Like trying to get the word obese and bmi banned

Fat acceptance is a rose tinted lie. A bunch of people that lie to themselves and others for the sake of comfort so they never have to change. Fat acceptance is dangerous and is a direct cause for many deaths in younger and younger people world wide.

If you are fat and happy, good for you. But do not push it as healthy and not a problem when millions of people get serious health complications and even die due to being overweight/ obese every year.

[healthathealthysize]

[the-more-you-knooww]

Encouraging people to work out and be healthy is not fatphobia

[haes-revisionist]

I see a lot of FAs claim they are recovered/recovering from an ED. Now if I don't genuinely have a reason to doubt them, I won't. I haven't ever been diagnosed with an ED, so I know I won't be able to completely understand, but I have and still do struggle with disordered eating.

With that being said, if going from one unhealthy weight to another is part of your process, then so be it. Recovery is not linear. But what is important is that you don't stop there. Don't stop trying to heal your relationship with food until you're able to maintain a healthy weight because being at the opposite of where you were does not mean you are ok now.

[meowerfiftytwo-deactivated20250]

I gained a lot of weight in the pandemic and don’t like how i look. People tell me i gained weight and its true. But i don’t get offended about it I’m working out and lost a few inches already. Still have a looong way to go but no way am i ever going to get like lizzo and be proud about it. No one should be obese

Precisely.

UNHEALTHY:

ALSO UNHEALTHY:

[fat-acceptance-is-bs]

The way fat activists ignore sound science both pisses me off and worries me. People actually believe fat has health benefits, and more than likely pass narrative on to others. What is this movement and psuedoscience going to result in? If I can wager a guess, increased rates of obesity, diabetes, and cancer.

Is healthphobic a thing? Certainly seems like it.

It’s so frustrating that literal scientists that have done years of research and have more than enough proof are being shut down and turned a blind eye towards. There is nothing to gain from lying on their part either so it makes no sense that fat activists go against them.

There is no benefit from being obese, the only study I have read that shows some kind of benefit is that over weight people have bigger chances of survival if a famine occurs. But I don’t think that is true. And that over weight people can build muscle faster since the body has a lot of extra energy and resources.

Healthphobic, gymphobic, sciencephobic, Brandy Melvillephobic, positive changephobic. All seem like terms that actually can be used un ironically these days.

[niiwa-angel]

It's worse than the anti vax movement. It's normal to make fun of antivaxers but somehow, the fat acceptance movement has twisted governments and companies around their fingers. Like, why is obesity considered a disability? If you can cure your disability with broccoli and a daily walk, you aren't disabled in my opinion. But there are tons of fat people on disability because they've eaten themselves into immobility and now can't work.

Not to mention the victim complex the size of Texas. "Oh, it's fatphobic and bigoted if you don't want my gross, sweaty fat rolls squishing into the seat you paid for on an airplane!" Or "Kelsey's is fatphobic! Their booths are made to seat healthy people, not my grotesque body! Bigotry!" It's insane!

[haes-revisionist]

It's supreme entitlement. That and a personal theory of mine being that leftist white women no longer feel oppressed enough and are starting to see their minority status slip away. That's why 90% of FAs are white women (or non transitioning, female presenting afabs).

Also, I'd like to add that obesity is far more complicated than "eat broccoli and walk". I mean yes at the end of the day, cico rules, but at it's core obesity is very much a psychological issue and so it's much harder to manage. As someone who was once obese, and now at a much healthier weight, I very much believe that obesity is a chronic issue. One that one doesn't simply recover from but can put it in remission. I'm still a fat man at heart and will need to keep a close eye on my diet until the day I die.

As for companies, I very much agree that FAs are easily winning them over but it's not at all surprising. Streaming services, fast food restaurants, junk food suppliers, etc. All benefit from a movement that says it's perfectly fine to sit around all day and stuff yourself. And don't get me started on how much the health industry stands to profit in the US. And even if companies can't directly profit from this movement, they can in being allies like they do by plastering the rainbow everywhere during (and only during) pride month.

[fitness-not-haes]

[fitness-not-haes]

[haes-revisionist]

Lately I've heard of a conspiracy theory going around that fat acceptance/HAES was started by major fast food and processed food corporations in reaction to the newer generations being health conscious. Millennials and gen z are very politically active online and left leaning compared to older generations and what better way to boost profits while bringing in more customers than linking obesity with leftist ideology?

Not particularly something I believe, but it is something I think about from time to time. I mean they certainly are profiting from the movement

[haes-revisionist]

A little something I noticed about the HAES/fat acceptance movement is that they are anti-bodily autonomy.

Sure, most (if not all) will say that they're pro-choice and pro-body modification but those are only a few "acceptable" things that one can do with their body. Many are against/mock people who have undergone cosmetic surgery (especially if it has to do with removing/relocating fat), most are against weight-loss surgery, and almost all are against intentional weight loss all together.

Bodily autonomy is the freedom to do whatever you want with your body and no one has any say in what you can/can't do.* Just because they believe that people should have *certain* freedoms with their body does not mean they are pro-bodily autonomy.

If you shame anyone for their choices regarding their body, you are infringing on their bodily autonomy.

*obviously there's a gray area when it comes to legitimate health concerns. Certain activities such as smoking or dangerous levels of body mods should not be encouraged and criticism of those choices should not be discouraged, but ultimately that person should still be allowed to make those poor choices so long as they are made aware of the dangers of their decision and have been presented with alternatives.

[shaftking]

Tired of people putting fatphobia in the same level as ableism, racism, and homophobia as if people not thinking you’re hot and having a harder time finding cute trendy clothes is at all on the same level as not being able to marry without losing health benefits, people thinking it’s okay to mistreat you based on your skintone, or having your natural variation of sexuality viewed as being the same as wanting to diddle kids.

[fitness-not-haes]

[obesity-is-not-healthy]

"Heart attacks and cardiac arrest aren't fat-caused, that's just medical fatphobia."

BABE. THIS IS WHAT PERICARDIAL FAT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO YOUR HEART.

It's not fat phobia. Organs cannot function whe covered in stuff like fat. It blocks the ventricles, presses down on your chambers and overall makes your heart work harder to do the same function as someone elses. You are literally crushing yourself to death from the inside.

Visceral fats cannot develope without a source of energy, the laws of thermodynamics apply to the human body, it's not your genetics, and I dont want you to die. Wake up.

[isaacsapphire]

What do you think is "going on" w/r/t obesity discourse? (answer private or not at all, if you want.) This of course is a topic which makes me go full militarist, "I would like to not fall out on a 12 mile ruck" mentality.

The distribution of BMIs within a population is the outcome of like, literally the entire society's food system, labor, recreation, And erotic imagination/status competition, and also affects all those things.

And yes, it is absolutely downstream And upstream of military stuff too.

The big glaring thing that is ignored by most people who pontificate on the topic is that since the 1950s or so, increasingly the food corps explicitly designed new products to Not trigger satiaty and to be "cravable" which is a nice way to say "addictive".

They did this to increase demand for the food product inputs like corn and dairy, which are in oversupply because of combinations of American government policies/subsidies and improvements in farming technologies (including but not limited to the use of petrochemicals as fertilizer).

Staying the fuck away from "processed foods" is the real secret of most diets. Yes, it is possible to lose weight eating a small amount of McDonald's food, but it's hard to do that, because 2000 calories of McDonald's doesn't make you feel full, so you'll eat 5000, or 10000 over a day.

And let's talk about that "cravablity" and reward pathways a minute. Say you're standing on a street corner, feeling kinda shitty. What is the fastest, easiest, cheapest way for you to chemically, biologically make yourself feel better? You duck into a convenience store or fast food joint and get a snack for 1-10 USD and feel better. Cheaper, easier, more accessible than even booze and cigarettes, and there's no social or legal stigma against it.

The more you eat, the fatter you get and the more cells you have crying out chemically for more food. In some people this appears to create a runaway cycle. Some people have this issue more than others, but appetite and satiaty are biological, chemical things and they don't work the same on everyone.

For added bonus fun, food is super important socially and many people absolutely flip their fuck if the people around them don't eat what they think they should, be it for religious, moral, or physical reasons; the internet is littered with stories of coworkers, inlaws, and even significant others trying to force or trick people to eat stuff they don't want to.

Even innocently, food and social occasions as minor as a weekly work meeting are synonymous, so the temptation and social license/pressure to eat is almost constant for many people.

Reducing the average activity level is probably an input, but the variability of exercise is almost irrelevant in personal weight ("you can't outrun a bad diet") and the human body adapts to increased exercise very smoothly in every study on the topic I've seen.

It's definitely possible that various chemicals floating around are relevant, but it's reaching to go there first as a hypothetical mechanism before addressing the elephant in the room of Doritos and Mountain Dew.

Like, studies about "hyperpalatable" food generally use Ensure. You know, the stuff that is so unappealing that it's used as a diet?

But ultimately, it's all downstream from government policies around food production, which are hauled around by the nose by industry interests.

[haes-revisionist]

I’m back from the dead yet again

I’m one of those people who fixate on a few sites at a time and then completely lose interest for months on end, in this case about a year. Can’t say how long I’ll stick around, but I intend to be here for at least a little while. I don’t intend on ever abandoning the blog, though lol.

So what have I been up to? Well, I’ve settled into a nice small town, got top surgery, got a girlfriend, got a new job, and started fostering (read: adopting) kittens.

As for my weight, I reached my goal weight, had surgery, gained 15 lbs due to being more inactive than I realized over a few months (and I admit I ate out more than I probably should have), and now I’m well on my way to losing the little bit of regain.

[meowerfiftytwo-deactivated20250]

Obesity shouldn’t be accepted fat people need to stop being offended

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