Currently has moths for brains lmao

An ML side blog who loves pretty much every character (except for Adrien's maternal family, they can choke). Gabriel makes my brain itch, but like in a good way lol.

[hasmothsforbrains]

This is the greatest thing I've ever made xd

[generalluxun]

Imagine if people's akumatized selves sticked around in their brain after deakumatization. Suddently everyone has an evil split personality. Oh and if they get new akumatized forms, said new forms also becomes a new personality as well so they can get multiple split personalities, though if they're always akumatized into the same villain that villain just stays alone, they don't get the copy of the same villain cause Mr Pigeon being 72 personalities for Mr Ramier to handle would drive him crazy.. Imagine Chloé at the end of season 5 with Antibug, Queen Wasp, Miracle Queen, Queen Banana, Penalteam and Queen Mayor still in her head after she leaves for London, and when she comes back in season 6 she gets Queen of the Dreadzone to boot along with the others. They all argue about fashion and Marinette. Chloé honestly doesn't need friends anymore when she has her akumatized personalities basically being her besties and sharing her likes and dislikes, she literally has a mini clique of bad girl queens in her mind. Sometimes one is more reasonable than the other. Thoughts?

I've actually read a couple fics similar to this. Usually Marinette gets zapped into Chloe's mind somehow and sees the various 'aspects' of Chloe's personality personified in the akumas, Queen Bee, and her civilian self. The fics are usually pretty cool.

[hasmothsforbrains]

Imagining Gabriel...

The Collector: We are sooo cool. 😎

Nighttormentor: We're so fabulous, you mean! 🤩

Gabriel: (annoyed) This is ridiculous, utterly ridiculous...

[tbh-daily]

Gabriel Agrest from Miraculous Ladybug

Gabriel Agreste from Miraculous Ladybug

[ilikekidsshows]

"everything Marinette's do to Adrien (hiding things, break amok, etc) doesn't make her a bad girlfriend, that just make her human" is the kind of post that make me wondering if the person who post this really believe what they say or... Just simply the victim of echo chamber to put it lightly because it's just funny that it sounds illogical for me. Does that mean being a bad girlfriend make you inhuman or what?

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Yeah, like, I thought it was a good thing Miraculous coddles the abusers in the cast because “it shows they're human”. Bad girlfriends are, in fact, humans too. But that's just it, Miraculous doesn't just humanize abusers, it sympathises with them more than their victims, and Marinette's brand of being a bad girlfriend puts her right next to Gabriel among the abusers. The reason the “it just makes her human” defense of Marinette sounds like it's just echoing someone else's words is because it is. This show has trained the fandom to accept increasing forms of abuse without seeing it as too bad and it has trained the fandom to always prioritize Marinette's emotions in every situation. That's why Marinette being a downright abusive girlfriend doesn't make her Bad (™), it just means she's stressed out and traumatized. It means she is actually the one who needs sympathy and help, not her victim.

It's another way this show's all or nothing writing and morality screws over any attempt at tackling serious topics. In the morality of Miraculous, you're either fundamentally Good or fundamentally Bad, which means that only characters who are Bad can be admitted to have done something morally wrong by the narrative. Anyone we’re meant to sympathize with has to be a Good Person Who Just Made A Mistake, no matter how often they make that same mistake or how that mistake fits into a pattern of behavior that shows this character has some problematic ideas about other people's agency, so they are always depicted as a tragic victim of circumstances or their own actions while their actual victims rarely hold a grudge and, it they do, that grudge is also something used to direct audience sympathy towards the Good Person Who Just Made A Mistake.

Like, this show is being written by French Christians, and it shows in this idea that being a Bad Person is something wrong with you and the only way you can atone is by being punished for your sins, so any character nobly suffering is a Good Person, no matter how much that punishment is a self-caused misery or outright self-flagellation. This is why Chloé being stuck with her abusive mom was Good and Just while Marinette constantly crying about her self-caused problems means we should want her to get off scot free because she's already been punished enough. It sounds really Catholic is what I'm saying.

Unless this hard veer into seemingly Christian fundamentalism isn't actually that but just another extension of Astruc's Chloé agenda, where Chloé and anyone like her has to be Pure Evil who deserve to burn in the pits of Hell, and this is the only opinion anyone is allowed to have on the subject, while everyone else gets to be a multifaceted character and human being, which means their lack of maliciousness is more important than the harm they cause.

Actually, this feels like another moral tenet that leans heavily into the kind of discourse Astruc has been stuck in. We’ve recently been talking about Miraculous’ history of racism, where nonwhite characters are often reduced into ethnic stereotypes and “exotic” aesthetics, especially in terms of Akuma forms. It's the lack of maliciousness in these depictions that's always had Astruc so outraged and offended whenever someone points out they're stereotypical and therefore racist. Of course a man who defends himself with the idea that his intentions are more important than how the show comes across would try to teach that intentions triumph over results when writing a “lesson of the day” show for kids.

Is Astruc airing out his grievances with negative feedback with this show's morality or is he just Very French and Very Catholic about it? Honestly, I think it's probably both because, while Miraculous always had this approach to its protagonist’s mistakes, it wasn't quite this preachy about it until after Astruc started having characters quote his tweets about Chloé.

[generalluxun]

There's a tl;dr at the bottom.

ML's morality at its core is a very nature over nurture mindset.

You are good, or you are bad. You can never go from one to the other.

This is why Chloé being a hero is just 'selfish' despite the fact that it's, you know, fighting villains.

This is also why not matter what they have Marinette do for the plot they assume sympathy, because she is good, therefore she can't do bad.

This is also also why all the ML 'Redemptions' don't take the form of someone changing. They take the form of introducing new information to show that the 'bad person' was actually always a 'good person' who just made mistakes. Gabriel, Andre, Felix, and Nathalie all received 11th hour backstories to justify their 180s.

There is no way to move between the good/bad groups.

This is also why you have the good kid blob. All good and virtuous people must form a unified in-group. There can be no real internal conflict along good people. Take Sublime, she's literally a Disney Princess, but she still had to be transfered into the in-group of Marinette's friends by force to keep things proper.

Astruc has openly said on Twitter he will never made a sympathetic villain again, only ones people can hate. He has no nuance. If you feel sympathy for a character who he meant to be a villain you are just *wrong* for feeling that way(according to him)

Tl;dr

All this to say yes there is some Deeeeeeeeply Catholic conservative fundamentalism going on, and the perfect irony is: Astruc sees himself as deeply progressive and therefor good->Since he is good and conservative is bad, he can't be conservative->since he isn't conservative ML can't have conservative values in it!

Tadah!

The man could run a Texas Mega Church, and probably be very happy doing it.

[everything163]

Also he failed about not making a sympathetic 'villain'... *Points you at Ray, Loïc and the other one*

[generalluxun]

They're sympathetic?

[hasmothsforbrains]

Not really, but they are funny.

Imagine garnering so much hate because they break up couples and are, at most, and inconvenience. But this show is about shipping, so of course it's treated like the worst thing ever.

[hasmothsforbrains]

Spoilers:

Why is Félix so lame now. I used to hate him and pray for his downfall, now I just want him to disappear from the story. It's just so... annoying that he's a different character every time.

[hasmothsforbrains]

English dub dropped and now I want to punt Félix into the sun for yelling at Adrien like that.

This is the consequences of not telling Adrien a thing.

[hasmothsforbrains]

Spoilers:

Why is Félix so lame now. I used to hate him and pray for his downfall, now I just want him to disappear from the story. It's just so... annoying that he's a different character every time.

[familyagrestefanblog]

I absolutely loved "El toro del piedra" but Ivan's situation is literally doing Marinette's no favour.

That girl has every resource and support in the world to let Adrien know but doesn't because she doesn't wanna face Adrien's feelings. At the root of it all, that's literally it. Thats what it always comes down to.

She could literally tell Ivan the truth as Ladybug, show him the letter, and ask for his help to support Adrien in getting through this. She doesn't have to do anything else besides answering some questions while Nathalie and Ivan (and whoever else they could be bringing along. Like Kagami, Felix, and Amilie) do all the work.

This is such a non issue, it's insane.

[hasmothsforbrains]

But then Adrien would have someone to rely on that won't lie to him! And it would be development for Adrien that isn't directly tied to Marinette!

(Im sorry. Just typing that makes me tired)

[hasmothsforbrains]

Wasn't there like a saying that dead men tell no tales? How are people still finding a way to blame other's actions on Gabriel. He's not 100% evil.

I like this morally ambiguous approach to the heroes. Tasty.

[hasmothsforbrains]

My personal pet peeve on the future Adrienette kids? The kids' appearances boil down to this:

• Male Marinette

• Female Adrien

• The Baby with a mix of their features

That's about it. It's superficial, I know.

Also, there's a fourth child thanks to Jubilation, so like what's the fandom consensus on that? I like the concept, it deviates from the norm.

[anna-scribbles]

i feel like if Nathalie had told gabe that he was acting like Emilie's father (Lord dickface) he might've changed his ways the last couple of weeks(probably just crash out more tbh)

see that is totally possible except I really think that gabe lowkey idolized that man. like a reverence borne from humiliation. okay hold on i actually have a lot to say

like, I think that when gabe and emilie came crawling back to the graham de vanily's begging for help, emilie's father just completely humiliated gabriel. made it clear that he would never see him as anything other than a poor dressmaker unwelcome in their family and unworthy of his daughter. and ever since then, gabriel just had this deep insecurity festering inside him. he spent the rest of his life trying to claw his way up in status and wealth and respect.

and when emilie would complain about her parents, gabriel would agree and comfort her. but deep down, he didn't hate emil like emilie did. he respected him. he envied him. he wanted to be powerful like that. he wanted to be so important that no one could make him feel like a poor stupid dressmaker ever again.

I think that if nathalie had brought up emilie's father there at the end, it might've even had the opposite effect. that comparison might've bolstered his ego, made him even more confident in his decisions. he was the man of the house, the one calling the shots. no one could look down on him ever again.

and of course, this bled in obvious ways into gabriel's relationship with adrien. gabriel was obsessed with power and control, and dealt with his deep insecurity by elevating himself in importance above everyone else in his life. one of the most accessible ways for him to feel powerful and important was to exert control over adrien. and in many ways, this was gabriel re-enacting his own dynamic with emil, but giving himself the upper hand this time.

but it never worked. none of gabriel's power plays ever actually healed his insecurity about where he came from. he never, ever received emil's approval. all he ever did was drive himself insane and hurt everyone around him in the process.

[eightofpents]

Hey wanna see a thing I drew in like September for an au i have cooking?

Been thinkin about my shirt choice in a post-werepapas world.

[hasmothsforbrains]

Time for Scripty's yearly post lmao.

Félix hates Gabriel more than he loves Adrien.

Send post. Reblog if you agree.

[erisluna35]

People give Ladybug excuses and reasons for a lot of the messed up things she's done. I used to always wonder why so many who watch this show in particular are so tunnel visioned until an epiphany hit me in other shows and cartoons we get the supporting cast and side characters and have episodes dedicated to them we sympathize we learn their trauma and we understand how they choose their actions we may not agree but people are reasonable and at least can put past their MC bias but Miraculous on the otherhand has an MC so push down our throat that we can't even envision we can only see her. Like??? No wonder so many are stans if the only character you see is constantly push in your screen what can you do but give excuses usually when we read/watch stories we already have a bias for our protagonist troubles but Miraculous pushes it because we never have scenes without her being involved. Nobody develops and it easier to see them as cardboard cutout besides Marinette so why care or symphatize with the secondary cast if the show doesn't give any incentive to besides being them being given the role of biggest shippers of Adriennette no matter how forced this comes off to the other party. That why any slight against her gives such an intense reaction because this is HER show.

Had she for once been humbled and I'm being serious. She's been validated for so long that it grating me wtf the show in-universe treats her like she always right and it shows anyone who dares disagrees are the villains and the good people are the stans of hers behind her along with her minions and yes i'm including ChatNoir and all of this reflects outside of it too. Hell, when Su-Han just back down when he was right or Master Fu being such a pathetic man who doesnt teach his students and guide them at all. He clearly favors one over the other and such an imbalance is surely wouldn't work or translate well what if one got insanely jealous he's lucky this is Adrien.

No introspection or self-reflection. The fact we can't explore her intrest in her hobbies like fashion if you're going to show more of her at least make it count. We don't get deep moments besides her Adrien obsession. Like for example, I do believe Ladybug is at partial fault for the way she treated Chloe in s3 and I wish it was explore more on the struggle of being a hero to a classmate you dislike. Because heroes play a role and she's a magical girl at that so it falls under her responsibility to treat everyone the same that a sacrifice heroes make? that no matter how much one falls you pick them up and talk with them but when Marinette said she's just like her mom I was like.... how is she chosen to become the holder of creation?

She's suppose to have compassion. Like the stunt she pulled on Lila exposing her lies and going even lower is disgusting tbh or when she bullied Kagami alongside Chloe these instances of being cruel left an impression on me because if the powers she's been given is to be mishandled and used for her benefit then why is she simutanelously said to be a good role model? Had the show been self-aware of her flaws in all this I wouldve been more forgiving but it doubles-down.

Hell her fucking actions at the end of S5 destroyed and cremated her remains because NO of course people are rightfully upset and mad how dare she continue wearing her earrings when she just allowed the villain to win and to even listen to him??? She is at fault a gun wasn't pulled to her head she committed such a big betrayal to Adrien since Emphermal. I never got why she's been chosen to become a hero/magical girl because her morals have always been skewed when she always been more willing to go behind people back and treat people like chess pieces.

This is such a detriment to her character. You have a character that is essentially now a Mary-Sue. She doesn't even have anyone who disagree with her let alone argue she's given the benefit of the doubt on her treatment for her partner when it should rightfully be criticized but because we don't get enough scenes of Adrien and only see her pain it easy to ignore to not give a fuck. She's not a compelling character at all why care for a protagonist that is handed everything and praised and yet what accomplishments has she's done to earn being best "Ladybug" when she couldnt even unmask and figure out the identity of Hawkmoth ?

We got 5 seasons. Who are these characters? No really? Who are they but yes men to Ladybug whenever they get called to suit up and listen to whatever she asks. No overarching plot they don't got issues/problems with family, school like I want to know about Juleka since I find her to be interesting. I want to learn about Nino without always being attached to the hip with his girlfriend. The only one that even had autonomy is Alya lol and even that not much.

Any fanfics that even attempt to even fucking try to make her better is just not canon lol. Because the show is cowardly to make her even risk the boat.

This is harsh. But, what I said is my opinion if so many falls back to intentions when her actions just make it double cruel and worse overall then youre just coping. She's a bad leader and partner and to dare absolve or lessen what she did when girl is a hero she has a duty.

You know what makes me fucking despise her besides her treatment of kitty when he's my favorite in the show. The intentional writing behind it and character in-universe and how the people inside it just nod their head and act like whatever the words coming from her mouth is for their benefit no disagreements, no conflict. They just except whatever she's done is justfied and rational similar to how the many times ChatNoir excepts her lipservice when he truly wanted answers.

Yes, im a hater sue me.

Okay yknow what? Fair. S5 definitely made a point to show you are correct with this assessment.

The worst part is it wasn't always this bad. S1 gave everyone in class their own focus episode. Chat Noir wasn't treated like he is superflous. Sure, I can see your point about the way the show always prioritized Marinette has always been a problem but it was definitely more subtle in previous seasons. Episodes like Hacksan or Gabriel Agreste are better off without Marinette in the middle of it for example. But too bad according to the bible:

We can't take our eyes off Marinette for better or worse. Its even emphasized by being mentioned twice, we must always feel empathy with Marinette.

Though I will say, things like unearned praise and no one really learning lessons is not a Marinette exclusive problem. I just don't blame you seeing it more on Marinette cause we see her more than anyone else and it is frustrating when S5 shows how detrimental it is.

I ultimately blame the writing more for failing to write Marinette as a good superhero magical girl protagonist.

[red-balloon12]

This is what I’d like to call “The Main Character Perspective issue” where things only progress when the main character is around or when we only see things in the eyes of the protagonist. Steven Universe had this problem, though I still love SU to this day, where characters only seemed to grow when Steven was involved. But with SU, characters still GREW. In ML, it seems like the only character that is allowed to have constant character development is Marinette.

[hasmothsforbrains]

Future did a really good job with this. In one episode, two side characters (Lars and Sadie) resolved their own problem (their relationship) off screen, and it was to show how much Steven depended on being the 'problem solver', to the point it nearly crushed everyone around him.

... I need to rewatch Future again.

[letshaveacuppa]

I came here to drop some money, dropping all my money

Drop some money, all this bread so yummy, yeah

Twerking, twerking when I buy the things I like

Dollar, dollars dropping on my ass tonight

Everyone silent, listen to my money talk

Spend how I like it

Or “When your only joy isn’t your job or son but when you are akumatizing mister pigeon the 10000000th time”

[averageludwig]

Gabi art because I came across some leaks and lord . I won't say anything but!!!! YK!!!!! (super autistic excitement)

[hasmothsforbrains]

I like how everyone was like 'fuck canon', and then Zag's retelling (retelling is the keyword here, its basically canon fanfiction) dropped and suddenly the salt tag is filled with 'actually Show Canon slaps' like pick one. 🤣

It just makes me wary of the critique on a Miraculous reboot in the future, lol.

I just watched it for the Hawkmoth scenes, ngl, I like that guy.

[suitdup]

[honestlyprettychill]

reblog to save a liFE

[jerkdouglas]

Up to now, I have been drawing random generic suit jackets.

Never again.

[saccharinesylph]

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