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and the thing that gets to me in the ‘mike-realises-he’s-gay-in-college-and-asks-will-to-mentor-him’ fics is that will is constantly deflecting or subtly rejecting mike under the guise of self preservation but everyone’s mad at mike for not being honest? like??? will isn’t being honest with himself OR mike, and I’m not blaming him, so to speak, and there is definitely a breakdown of communication on both sides, but cut my boy some slack.
“Hey, can I ask you something?”
Will seems to scan him, eyes darting over his face, until he says, “Sure, go for it.”
Mike swallows, works the words in his mouth, and then finally asks, “Did you ever, y’know. Did you ever have a thing for me?” He makes a valiant attempt to sound casual. It just comes out slightly strained.
He risks a glance over.
Will looks like all the blood drained from his face. His lips part silently. Finally, he says, voice cracking, “What?”
Mike leapt off the edge of a cliff and is dangling suspended in the air. He hears wind and blood rushing in his ears.
He laughs. “I— I was just wondering. Stupid question, sorry. Obviously— obviously not.”
“Mike,” Will says, disbelieving. Like he’s praying this is a joke. “You— you know I did.”
Free fall.
Will's eyes desperately search his, and Mike is lost. “What?” he breathes. “Will, that’s not— what do you mean? What are you talking about? I don’t—” He breaks off, and says, weakly, “Will, if I knew, I would’ve…”
His mouth snaps shut and he swallows hard. Looks away, furious tears prickling his eyes.
“Mike, you would’ve what?” Will’s voice trembles. Does he fear this is a joke?
Mike wants so badly to spare himself this — it’s his own fault for fucking asking, why did he ask when he knew whatever answer would be past tense anyway? — but he can’t refuse Will.
He turns to look at him, meeting his glossy eyes. “I would’ve thrown myself at you,” he says brokenly. “Jesus, Will, I—” He curls over his knees, hugging them to his chest.
The stretch of silence drags on, long enough that when Will finally whispers his name, Mike instantly blurts out, “Forget it. It doesn’t m— it doesn’t have to be a thing. I’m sorry.”
“Would you still?”
The question hits him like a bullet. He turns, slowly. “What?” Careful. Like reaching out to a dog that’s sitting pretty for once, knowing you’ll probably still get bit.
“If I felt that way now, would you still?”
“Will… don’t joke.” He doesn’t think he’s joking. He has to say it anyway. His eyes scan Will’s face for some hint that this is a dream, a nightmare, something to wake up from.
He sees nothing.
“Mike,” Will whispers. Answer me.
“Yes.”
Sevenspins is so much buzzier imo when Will is the hockey player and Mike is the ice skater why are we not doing this 💔🥀
I would give you my firstborn for some unicorn punk Mike art 👀
it might seem crazy what i’m bout to say
remember how mike shouted at those kids 𝘵𝘸𝘪𝘤𝘦 'EYES ON ME' 'EYES ON ME REMEMBER' because he knows that what 𝘩𝘦 saw in a lab at 12 years old will haunt him for the rest of his life and he will 𝘯𝘰𝘵 let those kids experience the same
My lesbyler <333
My sillies, my girls, my loves, my darlings <3
If anyone's still anticipating my next chapter of my tfem mike fic, it's Coming, I just don't like being historically inaccurate and bc I have so much gender/dnd timeline/rallies and riots and protests to keep up w, it's taking me a while bc I keep having to Fact Check
mike had a toy dinosaur that he named roary because it roared 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I think about this on the Daily
And he had to give him away in s2 💔💔
That scene in s2 always makes me want to jump through the screen and fight Karen ngl
mike had a toy dinosaur that he named roary because it roared 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I think about this on the Daily
willow byers, michelle wheeler, daisy henderson and lucy sinclair
I desperately want more possessed wiw & enthusiastic, happy-to-be-there mikey
Ngl I get uncomfortable with the hyperfemme Will x hypermasc Mike artworks.
Because- I could totally get behind femme-ing Will up, but Mike's not. He's not hypermasc. And it feels like it's. . . trying to het-ify them?
Like- at BEST, Mike is wearing jeans and a polo. He's Not got muscles, and he's not the bread earning man while Will lays around home in dresses and looks super hyperfemme and and- HE'S NOT THE WIFE.
And I'm not saying this dynamic doesn't work for other mlm couples, but mixed w the over sexualization Will has had done to him in this fandom, it just rubs me the wrong way.
And it probably Wouldn't if they weren't making Mike a muscular office worker who Totally Dominates Will in the evenings
No cause I literally can't be a casual fan of ANYTHING. I'll always get extremely hyperfixated to the point I can't think of anything else
will byers crying blood in a church i won’t forget you
I saw this phenomenal post by @youaremess and it gave me a huge brain wave.
I already thought when El/Jane "died" in season 5, she was "waking up" and getting out of Camazotz.
The entire season, Kali was pushing El/Jane into commiting suicide, and it got me thinking. Why would she do that?
("It makes no goddamn sense!")
Then I thought about the field scene with El/Jane and Kali.
When I saw the post by @youaremess, it made me think; what if Kali is also at the Nina Project? What if El/Jane got 'stuck' in Camazotz and forgot how to get out? This would (kind of) explain why Kali was there in S5- to help El/Jane break out of the illusion.
Other than to push El/Jane to commit suicide, Kali doesn't really have a plot in season 5. She was brought back to be killed. Buttttt, what if (and this is a big if) she was brought in by Owens & Brenner to help El/Jane get out of Camazotz? It would make sense (in my opinion).
Kali:"Have you ever done this before? Shared your mind like this?"
El/Jane:*shakes head* "Have you?"
Kali:"With my other psychic friends all the time."
-> "Other psychic friends" I think is code for Dr Owens and Brenner (the Nina Project)
-> "all the time" - they've been trying for a while
Brenner says El/Jane isn't strong enough to defeat Vecna -> They find Kali to help her -> Kali and Jane find a way to break everyone out of Camazotz.
I think what happened was that the entirety of Hawkins was flayed during season 4 and Owens told El/Jane that the only way she can help them (without becoming flayed herself) was to do it remotely at the Nina Project. She infiltrated Henry's mind through the Nina Project and has been stuck in Camazotz along with the rest of our characters. She's not flayed, but she is in Camazotz. Also this would kind of explain why she seems so 'emotionless' during the whole season; She knows it's not real.
I think Kali coming in this season made El/Jane remember what was really going on and remind her how to get out of Camazotz. By 'dying' in Camazotz, she 'woke up' in the real world.
Slight tangent:
Do you guys remember when Mike and Will found El/Jane in the desert in season 4?
I don't think they actually 'found' her. I think she projected herself to make it seem like she was there. Does that make sense? Kind of like in season 3 with Billy, she shared her mind with him and he could see and feel her but she wasn't actually there. Kind of like that.
I think she's been doing that the entire time and hasn't been in Hawkins since the end of season 3. She's isolated from them because the whole town is flayed. She can't risk being flayed so she's helping them remotely.
I only really think this because when the Cali crew reach Hawkins, El/Jane doesn't really talk to Mike, and we hear Mike say this.
(Will: "Did she talk to you at all?
Mike: "Not much. I mean, a little bit. Doctor Brenner. He says that she wasn't ready and now she's starting to think he was right.")
Says implied he's still alive. That El/Jane is still in the Nina Project and she accidentally let it slip to Mike but he hasn't put the peices together.
EDIT, I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING!!!
Remember when there was someone dressed like El/Jane at the start of the season? What if that was Jane and Kali experimenting to see if they could project an image over Jane and make her look like someone else when she infiltrated Camazotz?? So that even if El/Jane "died", she could still help the party?
OR
If they successfully broke people out of Camazotz, they could project an image of them and make it seem like they were still in Camazotz! This could also tie into why Joyce and Hopper are acting strangely- they were in Russia when season 4 was happening, and instead of going to Hawkins, they went to the Nina Project with El/Jane and have been trying to break the others out. El/Jane has been projecting them into Camazotz to help the party!
(Guys please tell me I'm not crazy 😭)
Moving on...
I then started thinking about the speech she gave Mike in the void.
("But I don't! I don't understand!")
("You will.")
Huh???
In general the void scene made no sense (#warflashbacks) but I went back and watched it 😭
If you listen closely, it sounds like El/Jane is speaking in code.
Mike: "You have to get out of there! You have to get out!"
El/Jane: "None of this will ever end, not if I'm still here."
-> Camazotz will never be destroyed if I'm still here. Vecna will still try to keep you and Will apart if I'm here. You won't accept yourself if I'm here.
Mike: "No, no. We'll figure something out. Well fight back. We always do."
El/Jane: "I need you to talk to the others."
-> You need to find a way out of Camazotz with the others. You need to talk to them and find your own way out. They will help you.
El/Jane: "You understand me. Better than anyone. You always have."
-> You've always understood what the others haven't been able to. You know the upside down better than anyone. You know how to get out and save them.
Proof: Mike always connected the dots the others haven't been able to. When Will told them to close the gate in S2, Mike was the only person who understood that if they closed the gate, Will would die.
Mike: "No. No."
El/Jane: "I need you to thank them for me. For being so kind to me. And teaching me what it means to be a friend."
-> You need to be kind to yourself and accept yourself and find your way out. You need to remember your friends. Your friends are the key to get out. (Will is the key to get out)
Mike: "No! Please don't do this."
El/Jane: "Mike, I need you to help them understand my choice."
-> Mike, you need to understand. You need to understand the choices you've made and how to undo them to get out. You need to help the others get out. You've always understood this better than anyone. Help them.
Mike: "But I don't. I don't understand."
El/Jane: "I know. But you will. One day you will."
-> You might not understand now, but you'll figure it out. You always do.
El/Jane: "From the day we met... you've seen me."
El/Jane: "The real me."
-> From the day we met (the day Will went missing), you've seen me (seen that I wasn't Will).
-> The real me (I'm not Will. You know it and you've been lying to yourself.)
-> I'm not Will. I'm not the one. I'm not the key. Will is. Will is the key to get out. You need to remember him. Remember.
Mike: "Please don't leave me, El. Please don't do this."
El/Jane: "I will always be with you."
-> I will always be with you (to help you get out) ->You need to remember what I've told you. I will always be here to help you.
El/Jane: "I love you."
-> I love you (but you don't love me and that's okay.)
El/Jane: "Goodbye Mike."
-> Until next time Mike.
GUYS AM I MAKING ANY SENSE PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
I genuinely think El/Jane has always known they were flayed and stuck in Camazotz, which is why she's acting so nonchalant the whole season.
She's been trying to get them all out for ages but she hasn't been able to find a way to get them all out, and she's tired 😭
Anyways, I'm going to call this Ninagate because why not?
Ninagate <33
Anyways, please let me know what you think about this theory <33
Peace out 🫰💛💙
I know there're so many Phoebe Bridgers songs out there that are perfect for Byler and I really wanna compile some but I legit had to stop listening to her in 11th grade cuz I thought it was making me depressed and I genuinely can't deal with that shit rn :/
