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Hi there! I was wondering if you can list how many POV stories there are for each character in No Thank You? I don’t want to miss any. Thank you!
Oops sorry anon I wasn't watching my tumblr. Pretty sure it is 1 for everyone but Pop's and Pop's has 2? After you get the good/bad end of the route you can find their POV scenes in the replay section and just see them there c: that way you don't miss any
why are they called tank tops
I know I know!! IT’s because of a female super hero who was a ‘tank’ and wore what used to be called a sleeveless shirt/cami all the time… I forget her name so I can’t find a pic but I might find one in a minute…
Tyler she was literally called Tank Girl
Dangan Ronpa Voices
Just my personal opinion on all the DR voices.
Monokuma: Japanese VO is 10x better
Makoto Naegi: I prefer the Japanese VO but the English one is okay
Kyouko Kirigiri: strong preference to Japanese VO but I like her English one more than a lot of other characters
Byakuya Togami: I prefer the Japanese VO but the English one is okay
Sayaka Maizono: I only like her English VO, her Japanese one is really annoying
Chihiro Fujisaki: Both VOs are good. I’d probably choose the English one just because I understand what Chihiro is saying in English
Kiyotaka Ishimaru: Both are good, no real preference
Celestia Ludenburg: I prefer her Japanese VO to her English VO when she uses that fake accent, but I adore her regular voice in English
Touko Fukawa: Slight preference to her English VO
Genocider Syo/Jill: n/a because I’m comparing them based off of prologue introductions
Mondo Oowada: both are good, no real preference
Yasuhiro Hagakure: Definitely the English VO, I just don’t think his Japanese VO suits him
Aoi Asahina: Definitely the English VO, I think her voice is too high and squeaky in the Japanese VO which is probably why I didn’t like her when I originally played the game on emulator a few years ago
Sakura Oogami: Slight preference for her Japanese VO
Leon Kuwata: I adore them both.
Hifumi Yamada: Slight preference for her Japanese VO
Junko Enoshima: I prefer her Japanese VO in the introductions, although her English VO is nice too.
As such it’s always hard for me to figure out which VO I want to use. I’ll probably use the English one just because the I’m far enough in my current playthrough that I prefer the English VO or have no strong opinion for most of the characters still alive.
Yo what do you mean your sister? Bitches need to get their facts straight. What kind of fujoshi doesn't know their gay classifications? Not to mention that Nitro+CHiRAL is considered pretty much the kings of Yaoi VNs in the west, so OF COURSE people are gonna compare all the gays to DMMd and Togainu No Chi.
You sound so gangster, I am scared.
Thug lyfe erryday. Gonna grab my boxers and my chins and sag my jeans like a G.
No really though ;-; this is why I use tumblr, to bitch at people bitching at my fandoms. And because fanart. And stalking Tyler. I got my priorities sorted out pretty well.
O-oh Zoe-sama!! I-I-I didn’t know we where in /that/ type of relationship/…
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Yo what do you mean your sister? Bitches need to get their facts straight. What kind of fujoshi doesn't know their gay classifications? Not to mention that Nitro+CHiRAL is considered pretty much the kings of Yaoi VNs in the west, so OF COURSE people are gonna compare all the gays to DMMd and Togainu No Chi.
You sound so gangster, I am scared.
Thug lyfe erryday. Gonna grab my boxers and my chins and sag my jeans like a G.
No really though ;-; this is why I use tumblr, to bitch at people bitching at my fandoms. And because fanart. And stalking Tyler. I got my priorities sorted out pretty well.
Can people like please stop comparing no thank you!!!” with “DRAMAtical Murder”?.
DRAMAtical Muder = Boyslove game, was made for women.
No thank you!!! = Menslove game, was made fo men
One does not simply brings yaoi to the bara side.
thank you
“One does not simply brings yaoi to the bara side”
Except that there is actually a term for Yaoi/Bara hybrid called gachi muchi
Can people like please stop comparing no thank you!!!” with “DRAMAtical Murder”?.
DRAMAtical Muder = Boyslove game, was made for women.
No thank you!!! = Menslove game, was made fo men
One does not simply brings yaoi to the bara side.
thank you
Holy shit this post is so grossly inaccurate it disgust me.
Somebody doesn’t understand their terms. At all. Eww.
First of all Boys’ Love and Mens’ Love are both always two words, not one. Second of all “Boys’ Love” is the umbrella term that people in the west use to encompass Yaoi/Bara/Shonen-ai. Mens’ Love is called Bara if we’re talking about genres. If you’re speaking to a western audience, which you are, and you’re trying to tell somebody something M// isn’t Boys’ Love you’re not going to get anywhere because they don’t have solid definitions, they way they should. If you’re going to try to classify them as different genres use their actual genres. It’s like calling one genre of movies “the makes you laugh really hard all the time genre” and another “the makes you scream really loud all the time genre” we have genres like “comedy” and “horror” for a reason.
So let’s rephrase this
DRAMAtical Murder and No, Thank You!!! = Boys’ Love in accordance to western use. Which is why we’re going to use their actual terms.
What kind of Boys’ Love?
DRAMAtical Murder = Yaoi.
No, Thank You!!! = Yaoi with Bara elements.
Not Mens’ Love. Not at all. In fact labeling No, Thank You!!! as a bara and not including yaoi in its classification is probably an insult to the genre as a whole--even though the game gives good bara elements to its readers.
To start, let’s explore why NTY!!! was translated. About a year or so ago there was this really popular fan translated game, called DRAMAtical Murder. A lot of Tumblr users got really hyped about it. Around that same time MangaGamer noticed a couple of females requesting different titles for Otome/Yaoi games in their request thread, and they decided to give those topics their own thread. At this point places like the DMMd tag filled up with people sending links to the thread asking everyone to request BL titles they enjoyed. I will point out that Nitro+CHiRALs games were requested quite frequently (even though JAST USA has the rights to those). MangaGamer took all of the new women who were using their forums, and looked through their suggested title to find a M// title to translate. They chose No, Thank You!!!
Licensing this title was in direct response to the influx of female opinions on their boards and the purpose of translating a “Boys’ Love” title was to expand their audience to include more female oriented games.
NTY!!! was translated specifically for women. The target audience in this translation was for women. Yaoi’s target audience is for women.
WIth that in mind they picked a title with Bara elements to try to keep from alienating their male audience. It was an attempt to create a bigger market for this specific game.
But what makes a Yaoi and what makes a Bara? We could start by saying the first is targeted towards women, and the later is targeted towards men--but that’s not really it. There’s a lot more to it than that.
Yaoi stereotypically portrays the seme as masculine and the uke as feminine. To start off Hiroyuki and Ryu are pretty stereotypical ‘uke’ looking characters. Thin frames (Haru has more muscle than both of them), Hiroshi pulls the whole blushing virgin and “but my virginity is scared” card on you, Ryu has absolutely no body hair and he’s described as a motherly kind of person. Maki is also feminized more than he would have been if NTY!!! was in fact a Bara. To balance out those huge muscles he’s called Maki-chan by Haru. Chan to feminize him. He has a love for cute animals, and he likes to cook a lot. The game creates a physically masculine guy and then the game feminizes him up between action scenes. Pops is probably the least feminized of the bunch.
You could consider 2/4 of the love interests to be “bara-esque” characters. 1/5/4 if you recognize Maki’s feminization placed in to contrast his manly looks.
Bara is less likely to build up and start to flesh out the characters before the sex occurs, but in half of the routes (Ryu and Hiroyuki’s) you find that you know the character and how they will react to situations before sex comes into play.
Bara doesn’t try to create heteronormative roles the same way that Yaoi does. Yet somehow Maki, Ryu, and Hiroyuki cook for Haru and he talks to them about motherly food. Hiroyuki criticizes another mother’s skills in her mothering, Ryu mothers an orphan and has mothered Hiroyuki in the past, Maki is just well Maki. Kouichi is called Pops and then everyone else’s parental role is maternal.
If we ignored most of the characters “softer” sides we could look at the actual themes.
Bara is targeted towards adult (normally in their 30s or so) gay men and Yaoi is target towards young (teens to early 20s) women. As such Bara tends to envision more real-world kind of topics, it tries to ground the genre and doesn’t often stray into fantastical situations with an exception of BDSM Bara (which is based off of and also often created by BDSM Yaoi artists). It’s normally either sex based or based on portraying an actual gay man’s life.
Man I wish I was an everyday gay man in Japan. I get to deal with the Yakuza and work in a bar/detective agency and man they have such interesting day to day lives.
No really it’s not sex based it’s not portraying an everyday man.
It also doesn’t follow the denotating themes where normally age, status, power, wealth etc is used to establish a pecking order and the higher up man uses the people below him to satisfy his sexual desires. I’m pretty sure Mak-chan is his boss. Pretty sure that Pop’s is also his boss. Haru is the youngest one there. he lacks status, age, power, wealth and yet he is using them for sex, not the other way around. Sometimes in Bara the younger tops chase the older men, but the younger man is wealthier and higher up on the totem pole than the older man.
Now why would you compare DRAMAtical Murder to No Than You!!! specifically?
The answer is simple. On top of tumblr’s DMMd tag being a big advocate of MangaGamer’s search for a yaoi title, the two pieces have a lot in common.
Actually at the end of the day they’re both stories about parentless boys with repressed memory issues in a world with rather useless police who have their parental figure kidnapped and have to go save them. They then both take a more serious turn focusing on drugs and an oppressive force in the area where both heros--who at this point are only talking to 1 of the 4 potential love interests from the exposition-- and their love interest try to take down the big guy. At the end of the story you get stuck with some ending that doesn’t feel happy at all and then they tack on a bit that makes for a hopeful future for the couple you’ve created. Both games are action packed and a bit bloody. They both have a good amount of sex, well developed characters, and are stories of gay men which aren’t often translated into English. They aren’t the same story but they definitely have enough in common to justify comparisons.
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Chapter 2 of Dangan Ronpa is easily the best
I tookover 130 screenshots of it while playing the game for the second time. The chapter’s 3 main characters just hooked me from the start and became my favorite friendships in the game, if not the series.
I think Monokuma’s little insert between Ch 2 and Ch3 really solidify my opinions on the game. Before Ch3 I loved all the characters and I just wanted to get to know them and once Ch3 comes around its like I just want to know what’s going on with the school and have fun with solving the class trials and watching executions. My favorite girl/guy, based solely off introductions, are both extravegently killed by Monokuma, in chapter 2 my favorite character -- again-- ends up a murderer, my second favorite character ends up broken beyond repair, and another character I liked dies. After that all the characters are meh. Except Togami simply because of all the funny Togami memes/videos peple make. I don’t like him but I appreciate the meme material he has brought to the table.
It’s like Ch3′s murder was just meh, and then ch4 has a decent trial but again the chapter itself didn’t really do it for me. It wa like I had such high expectations after Ch2 but then I forgot the high expectations came from the game messing up with my favorite characters and after that my favorite characters are gone.
Of course in the second game one of my favorite characters it he first murderer..again. But I also like Kuzuryuu, Saionji, Komaeda, Tanaka, and Souda so like I actually end up with characters who don’t all die off by the end of the second chapter.
I’ve literally been singing ‘Hadaka Hadaka Hadaka’ from the Hadaka Shitsuji opening theme all morning. Not the whole song, just the 3 Hadaka’s. Dear God, help me.
hamletmachine im sorry i dont think you’ve been memed on enough yet
Literally the only reason I haven’t bought Eroge! Sex and Games Makes Sexy Games yet is because I’ve seen so many bad reviews for it. I know I”m still going to get it but I guess I’m waiting until I rack up a few MG points on the 3-4 titles in translation…
Eh it’s got a silly “Gotta fix things with sex” sort of logic going on but I thought it was funny and it’s pretty entertaining overall. and Yes her art is the bomb.
TBF they’re porn artists/writers who don’t know what sex is “gotta fix things with sex” sounds like perfect logic. The real flawed logic here is “I’m a girl who doesn’t like men I want to write heterosexual sex scenes for a living, yeah!” ._, come on now guys why’d you all want to be porn producers? For all I can tell none of you guys actually had any interest in porn before you started working on it.
Also Fashionista is closer, Junko is SHSL Gyaru which is a subculture that's about being fashionable, some fanlations made her SHSL Model because most people don't know what that is, the English translation is pretty much fine in most places, don't nitpick about things when you clearly don't have the best grasp on them yourself (because honestly, the game translation is kinda awful)
Like I said they went with the most literal translations for the titles (which is what Fashionista was doing) when it was really the more complicated way to say it. Fashionista isn’t significantly closer when Naegi’s first interaction with her is basically “man you’re on every fashion magazine” “you’re not as pretty as I thought you would be”
A “Fashionista” is someone who designs fashionable clothing, or someone who follows or dresses in a fashionable manner. It does not mean you’re actually pretty, it does not mean you make magazines.
Yes they’re different, but what she’s essentially known for is modeling her fashion forward styles.
I wasn’t being nitpicky I pointed out multiple cases in which they went for the most literal translation to say that it’s frustrating that they went out of their way to make really awkward titles for the cast when for the most part there were simpler alternatives. You pointed out 1 of those titles you disagree with. If anybody was being nitpicky it’s you who came to me to point out one little piece of my statement and tell me I shouldn’t be stating my opinion on these things.
You didn’t disagree with my comment on ‘Pop Sensation’ or ‘Swimming Pro’ or ‘Moral Compass’.
I enjoy model more because the rest of the translation does nothing to stick her out as someone edgy, it just paints her as someone who is supposed to be a pretty face to the media. It’s a literal translation vs flow of words/story fight and nobody is ever going to win that.
They aren't white, they're all Japanese like wtf.
Like I said “I’m playing it in English”. The joke was I wanted to play Monokuma’s voice in Japanese while having everyone else’s VO in English.
on another note Monokuma’s english voice pisses me off and the fact that Leon says “what the crap” instead of saying fuck or hell pisses me off too. Who uses the phrase “what the crap?” like everyone else’s voices are okay and part of me really wanted to play this in English because I’ve already played it once in Japanese.,,but like seriously Monokuma.
Why isn’t there an option to make just 1 person’s voice be in Japanese. I could have an Asian principal murder bear and a class full of white american kids who live in Tokyo. I could deal with that.
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So I played this back on emulator before it was licensed for an English release...I got mad when they announced everyone to be Ultimate XXXXX but I thought I’d cooled off about it. But seriously. Wtf. Who named these guys? Ultimate Affluent Progeny and Ultimate Moral Compass and Ultimate Pop Sensation. This shit makes me angry all over again. Like I don’t care if it’s the most literal translation, did you guys have to pick the most complicated way you could possibly think of to name them? Asahina is ‘Ultimate Swimmer’ you don’t need to title her ‘Swimming Pro’ and who uses the word ‘Progeny’ or even calls someone a moral compass? Maybe hall monitor doesn’t fit but a person isn’t a moral compass. Guys what the fuck please. I’d pretend to be okay with these ‘Ultimate’ prefixes if it weren’t for stupid things like calling a popstar a ‘pop sensation’ or a model a ‘fashionista’ just so you can sound cooler.
NIS please.
Literally the only reason I haven’t bought Eroge! Sex and Games Makes Sexy Games yet is because I’ve seen so many bad reviews for it. I know I”m still going to get it but I guess I’m waiting until I rack up a few MG points on the 3-4 titles in translation I want to get this year.
It’s a pure nukige there is no plot.
I meant more for the character path storylines (of which I’ve heard a couple of them have good storylines) than ‘plot’ plot. Either way I’m not really buying it for the plot and I’m not buying it for the nukige. I’m buying it for Shigeo Hamashima’s gorgeous art. ATM I’m pretty sure if you slap her name on any title I’ll pick it up.
