“They need time”: The Marina Abramovic interview
Last spring, artist Marina Abramović unveiled plans for The Marina Abramović Institute for the Preservation of Performance Art, in Hudson, New York. In the following interview, Abramović details the subtleties of her institutional vision.
Grant Johnson: The Institute for the Preservation of Performance Art promises to provide a fixed, material location for relatively immaterial forms. What is at stake in this dynamic? What is gained or what is lost through the ‘institutionalization’ of performance?
Marina Abramović: You know, we, as human beings, are very nostalgic in a way in general, and we always think that things are better when they have already happened. We are nostalgic about past times and somehow think that it is not good if we change something because it was better how it was before. I really think that nostalgia is kind of overrated, and I think that we have to think about presence, and what we can do now and how we can use that strategy to do something better.
Performance was first, definitely, an alternative art form. It happened in different spaces, mostly in private—you know, different garages and alternative spaces and streets, and so on and so on—but these times are over. I think that performance has come into a new light and become very much an accepted form of art in the last few years. So I think that accepted form of art needs some kind of institute that can be seen as the platform where this can develop.
I am making something that is very private in many ways, because I think that in my experience—40 years performing—I understood that a long-duration form of performance art is the most rewarding, most changing, more than any other experience of art, both for the public looking at it, but also for the performer doing it. This is why I am making the Institute. It is very specific. It is not an Institute for any other performance art but long-durational art. So this is why it is so different, that is why I cannot really categorize if it is good for performance art generally or not. It is only for long-durational dance, theater, music, video, film, performance— and I am also including new forms of long-durational art that have not even been made yet.
So my limit, the starting point of the Institute, is the idea of six hours, that you have to spend six hours and you have to write a contract with me that you will give me your time. Otherwise, if you don’t give me your time, you cannot have the experience. So, it’s a very particular viewing of performance in this context.