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the law is not morality -- an interpretative piece about wei wuxian
this should act as a double meaning for your view. as artists in this increasingly polarized world, our art becomes more impactful than ever. to my mdzs fans, yllz kinnies, etc:
imagine for a moment that, during the sunshot campaign, there is this random wen soldier. he isn't super high up on the chain of command or anything; he's just some guy. our guy and his family are all cultivators, so most of his family members are wen soldiers as well. and they're in wen chao's battalion, so they play some role in the destruction of lotus pier.
the sunshot campaign happens. pretty much all of our guy's family members get killed by wei wuxian, as vengeance for the fall of lotus pier.
our guy, however, manages to survive the sunshot campaign. since he's a wen, he ends up in the jin labor camp at qiongqi pass. then, as described in canon, wen qing begs wei wuxian for help, and wei wuxian busts all of the wens at the qiongqi pass labor camp out, including our guy. wei wuxian's memory is quite bad, so he doesn't remember our dude as one of the wen soldiers from lotus pier; furthermore, due to the war's trauma, our guy's physical appearance has changed quite a bit, in no small part due to a major facial scar he obtained near the end of the war.
wei wuxian flees with the wemnants (lol), including our guy, to the burial mounds, where they try to make life. obviously, the only reason why any of the wemnants are still alive is because of wei wuxian; his necromancy is the only thing keeping the cultivation world from coming in and killing the remaining wen. including our guy.
at first, our guy is pretty miserable, because he's living with the guy who killed all of his immediate family members. wei wuxian killed our guy's father, his mother, and all of his brothers; wei wuxian also killed all of our guy's sons. wei wuxian then killed our guy's wife, who was the single most powerful cultivator in our guy's immediate orbit, by controlling the corpses of all of our guy's sons with his necromancy and compelling them to literally tear her apart, all while she was too horrified to raise a hand against the corpses of her own children. our guy only survived because, though the corpses of one of his sons stabbed him, he survived the stabbing and the subsequent slaughter by playing dead while his wife was getting torn to shreds mere paces away from him.
now, in the burial mounds, whenever our guy sees wei wuxian, he sees this imagery. it plays again and again in his head, seared into his vision. and yet, our guy also knows that he and his family did terrible things to wei wuxian's family as well, because they were there at lotus pier during the fall of yunmeng jiang.
so, logically, the hatred should go both ways. it would not be incorrect to say that our guy hates wei wuxian - the souls of his slaughtered wife and children should be screaming at him to avenge their deaths by killing wei wuxian, and in his nightmares our guy can hear them. and, from the point of view of our guy, it should also not be incorrect to say that wei wuxian hates the wen as well. by all means, the souls of all those slaughtered yunmeng jiang disciples should be screaming for vengeance, for the blood of the wen remnants, as well.
and yet, now here is none other than wei wuxian himself, risking his everything to protect the wen remnants.
our guy does not understand why wei wuxian is sticking his neck out for his former enemies now. why would wei wuxian leave everything he had to protect people with the surname "wen," when in the past he killed so many of them? when he has such a good reason to hate them? when all of the conventions surrounding honor and vengeance in their society dictate that he should be killing them instead?
so, one day, our guy just directly asks wei wuxian.
wei wuxian replies that he wants to break the cycle. wei wuxian says that, during the war, he committed atrocities in the name of vengeance. but in hindsight, even though he did those things in the name of avenging his loved ones, that didn't make what he did right. wei wuxian's actions introduced more suffering into the world. it's highly likely that, as a result of his actions, there's now a kid out there seething with the exact same rage wei wuxian once felt - because wei wuxian did to his family what the wens did to wei wuxian's family. if the kid then exacted vengeance, and the kid's victims then exacted their vengeance, wouldn't the cycle of violence just continue forever? wouldn't the world remain broken forever?
the way out, says wei wuxian, is through forgiveness. by recognizing that all lives have value and that harm is wrong, even if the target is someone who once harmed you. only then can society move forwards.
previously, our guy had been tormented by the fact that he was living with - and in fact relying on - the man who had slaughtered his entire family, when by all rights he should be trying to get revenge. now, though, our guy listens to this and thinks this is a pretty good philosophy. if this is the philosophy that can lead wei wuxian out of a life of anguish, then maybe it has merit.
so our guy adopts this line of thinking for himself as well. he does his best to live a life of radical forgiveness and mercy, to love all of life as inherently precious, even if said life has harmed him before. even if wei wuxian harmed our guy's loved ones in the past, it would still be wrong for our guy to try and enact revenge. even if wei wuxian murdered all of our guy's family members, that would still not make it morally right for our guy to now kill wei wuxian. even if, as he stared down at the splattered entrails of his slaughtered wife that day, our guy put his sword to his own neck only to find himself too cowardly to actually slit his throat, our guy in the present still should choose to forgive. to accept the past and move on. to let go of hatred, of vengeance, of the endless cycle of bloodshed and despair - and, in doing so, choose to live.
after adopting this outlook on life, our guy's mood rapidly improves, and he begins to feel at peace.
until, that is, one day he shares his philosophy with a friend - a fellow wen remnant - and the friend starts laughing at him.
the friend laughs because wei wuxian's mercy and our guy's mercy are nothing alike. wei wuxian is powerful. he does not have to be here in the burial mounds digging for radishes or whatever else with a bunch of escaped war prisoners. if wei wuxian wished so, he could easily kill all of them and then go crawling back to lotus pier, in which case jiang wanyin would probably let him back in. he would be fine.
therefore, wei wuxian "forgiving" these wens and choosing to coexist with them is fully a choice that wei wuxian has made freely. and it is only because wei wuxian has made this choice of his own free will, because he had the choice to act otherwise and refused to do so, that this decision of his is a positive statement about his moral character.
but the situation with our guys is entirely different. because our guy has no choice.
what would happen if our guy killed wei wuxian? first, our guy is incredibly weak right now, so wei wuxian would probably just kill him instead. but if he succeeded? then what? then the wens are defenseless, then they will be killed, either by the burial mounds or by the cultivation world. then our guy would die. our guy has exactly two choices: live with wei wuxian, or die.
our guy did not choose to forgive wei wuxian. our guy had no choice except to forgive wei wuxian. our guy was forced to accept the fact that he would never be able to avenge his family's deaths, and there was nothing he could do about it. in fact, to avenge the deaths of your immediate family by killing the person who murdered all of your family is an incredibly normal human desire. but our guy, with no possible way to achieve this, and with no choices except to live with and depend on the very person who killed his family, cannot act on this desire. the path to do so is unavailable to him.
so what does our guy do? he takes this ordinary human desire and relabels it as unethical. then he takes the forgiveness he was forced into, pretends he chose it of his own free will, and labels it as ethical. as just. as moral and righteous. in this way, he can hold the people with more power than him in contempt: sure, they might be able to achieve the vengeance they want, but in doing so they become unrighteous and cruel, so it's actually okay that our guy can't get vengeance! in fact, not pursuing vengeance and choosing forgiveness instead is the correct thing to do! our guy isn't powerless and impotent, he's actually morally righteous!
because you are weak, you have no choice except to "forgive," says the friend, and now you comfort yourself by pretending that you chose to do so freely. when you say that your choice to forgive is righteous, you are deluding yourself.
It's quite interesting how in the realm of "Crimes Jin Guangyao may or may not possibly have comitted" I have zero issue with assuming he may, in fact, have killed a-song and think it's really interesting to explore the various possbile scenarios, but if you so much as suggest to me that he killed Qin Su I'll bite you.
And I think it comes down to the fact that this... isn't really about my opinion of him. Regardless of whether he did either of these things two facts remain true 1) I like him as a character and 2) he's done some truly horrible things. Including child murder!! Those Tingshan He kids are still super dead! I don't need him to be innocent of these few specific crimes to like him, because its not like he'll suddenly become my unproblematic innocent fave. It's actually quite central to my enjoyment of him as a character that he's a man pushed to his utter limits, someone who does horrible things within circumstances so bad that even as they condemn him no other character can give him a clear answer on what else he should have done except just... die.
No, my insistence that Qin Su killed herself is all about her. In the precious little spotlight the narrative gives her, she's defined by how little agency she gets to have in anything. Everyone who knows the truth of her parentage decides to leave her out of it. She doesn't get to know the truth about her husband, so she doesn't get to weigh a sham incest mariage against being a disgraced unwed mother (It's a choice with no great options, but it's a choice she should've gotten a fucking say in!) she doesn't get to know the truth about her son, so doesn't get a choice in whether she wants to bear him. He's killed regardless, years later, and she doesn't get a say in that either. And when she asks her husband after finally finding out some of the truth hidden from her he refuses to give her a clear answer (pro tip, jiggy: "he NEEDED to die, I totally didn't kill him tho" is about the most suspicious answer you could give)
I need this woman to have made one decision in her life, even if it was the decision to end it. Is that a great choice? No, but everyone in Qin Su's life has deprived her of any choices in fear she'd make a bad one so I think we don't get to judge her, actually.
"Treat them like people" is probably the biggest lesson we learn from the novel when it comes to Wei Wuxian
He is comfortable around spirits and the dead because he treats them with the same respect and gentleness he would any living person.
He is able to get along very well with children and the youth because he treats them with the same kindness and decency he would a grown adult, never looking down on them and instead patiently guiding them to learn things about the world and themselves.
He sympathizes with the Wen remnants' suffering because he's seen firsthand they have not been complicit to the war and has decided to extend to them the same kindness he received, thus treating them like individuals and not a mass representing Wen Ruohan.
No matter how insignificant, unsightly or scary something or someone might be, Wei Wuxian has always granted them respect and showed no disgust or disdain where it was not warranted.
I believe that Meng Yao/Jin Guangyao is one of the most underrated characters in the MDZS fandom. Sure, he might not be the most likable figure, and yes, he undeniably committed terrible acts, but setting aside personal bias, it’s hard to deny that he’s probably the most complex character in the entire story. In fact, I’d argue he’s even more intricate than the protagonists themselves—though that’s not to take anything away from them.
What makes Jin Guangyao so compelling is the richness of his story. His relationship with his family, marred by rejection and bitterness, shaped so many of his decisions. His unwavering determination to carry out a revenge that, deep down, he might not have fully understood himself adds layers of tragedy to his actions. And then there’s his bond with Lan Xichen—a connection filled with loyalty, admiration, and betrayal, which only adds to the moral grayness of his character.
What sets him apart is how human he remains, even as a villain. Every action he takes, every decision he makes, is grounded in his vulnerabilities, his desire for acceptance, and his drive to survive in a world that continuously underestimated and mistreated him. Even in his final moments, he embodies this heartbreaking blend of ambition, pain, and humanity.
To me, Meng Yao/Jin Guangyao isn’t just a villain—he’s a reflection of the complexity of human nature, and that’s why his character deserves far more recognition.