We received many concerns/asks in our inbox regarding several things involving the document that people felt we could have touched more on, and/or added. This includes an accessibility form of the document. With this knowledge, we have decided to update the Identity V doc with everything we could add of to the best of our ability.
Unless if there are extreme circumstances that require us to update the document, we do not plan on making any further updates to the Identity V document.
We are also going to likely keep our inbox open for a day or two for any last concerns/potential urgent updates, but after that we will close it.
TWs for: RACISM, NONCON, TRANSMISOGYNY, ANTI-BLACKNESS, ANTI SEMITISM, ABUSE, HOMOPHOBIA & ABLEISM
Link to the Updated Doc Here
Additional commentary from one of our writers regarding the Prospector:
We became repeatedly informed about Norton Campbell's Mexican coding, and how it was wrong for us to assume he was white, and it is totally alright for a character to be reclaimed if it is your personal interpretation of him. There is no canonical evidence about him being Mexican, or a white Mexican person for that matter, aside from his dances or taunts and some skins that support this, and the assumptions of him being white were made via:
- His name
- A really good chunk of the characters in IDV are white
- When a character in IDV is a POC, it is stated by the developers on their backgrounds.
But we decided to get rid of one of his skins from the document either way, once again, for the amount of people telling us he was reclaimed by most Mexican fans of the game. The same goes for other characters who can be interpreted as being coded a certain race. Unfortunately, arguments like these are highly subjective and differ person to person depending on their experiences and views, so we can't include it in the same vein as the other contents of the document.
luca got brain damage because he was abused in prison. he doesn't have brain damage for having ADHD. he was literally beaten in prison and has brain damage including loss of memories. what kind of research did you people actually do
Doesn’t he have brain damage because he got shocked by the machine that he accidentally (or intentionally, the video purposely made it unclear presumably to get you hyped for his deductions) murdered his boss? Also we’re not saying he has ADHD, we’re saying that he is depicted showing stereotypical ADHD traits and they’re seen as something that he can never get past. Which is bad.
Can you please answer ONE important ask from a poc instead of ignoring the stuff that's too hard for you to answer? If you cant answer the important asks bc you are ignorant and uninformed on others cultures, then you shouldn't give doing this at all. You're only answering asks that help control your narrative and are actively silencing neurodivergent and poc voices
Since I figure people deserve a serious answer for this one, I want the other mods to be around before we answer the serious asks. We each discuss everything before we post the bigger posts, at least we double check it to make sure the intention is coming off right. I don’t enjoy not having a second voice for issues that are serious, even if they’re things I can do because I experienced them myself.
"Norton is probably white bc of his name" LIKE COLONIZATION AND WHITE SUPREMACY DOESNT EXIST AND MEXICANS BLACK FOLKS AND NATIVE AMERICANS DIDNT HAVE THEIR NAMES CHANGED BY COLONIZERS. WHY DID YOU EVEN REAR YOUR HEAD AGAIN. YOU ARE SO RACIST.
thank you all for your patience in regards to our oversights and errors in the document. the amount of asks we've gotten is so numerous so we ended up deciding after arguing for a little that rather than responding to each one manually we're addressing the concerns we've gotten in the updated version of the document where it'll be far more accessible. we aren't trying to ignore anybody or any issue, but this takes time as we want to come up with a sufficient and acceptable response to everything rather than throwing out some half-assed content and look like we're just trying to save face. the skepticism and hesitation is justified, but please bear with us in the meantime.
hey, i'm a twitter kinnie. i hate admitting to my flaws so i'm here to gotcha you. in one part of the callout doc you mentioned how something was ableist, and i didn't actually read your explanation so i don't think it was. owned. delete this blog
you said that multiple people are/were working on this but the doc details shows only one account has access to edit the doc??
most of us worked on incognito mode + communicated mostly via disc for safety reasons, which was a good call tbh considering how people are trying to identify us which is like defeats the purpose of this whole thing being anonymous for our own sake.
im getting grey hairs looking at these asks im not going to touch shit until everyone else gets online. honest 2 god sorry for the delay in answering asks i’ll still be reading them but responses will be slower if there’s any big important ones that are recent and demand full attention. i’ll try to get to them on my own rn but this isn’t a one man job lmao. as a note for the checklist we have so far:
- add more onto the racism because the amount we had written wasn’t adequate at all for the amount of racism there is in the game and there’s a lack of focus on how horrific it is
- reword some things that people are confused over and interpreting wrong for easier understanding
- patch up inaccuracies that we’ve been educated on since there has been a couple
- make an accessible mirror of the doc that abides by accessibility guidelines + has opendyslexic + has a larger font size
- read thru all the asks again and write more based off of the info provided
Turns out the stageplay for idv is using blackface for Patricia!!! What the actual fuck!!! I don't think I need to explain why this is bad!!! The account's name is @IdentityV_stage on twitter!!! Harass the shit out of them!!!
https://twitter.com/micako_otowa yeah i looked into this myself by checking the actress’ twt after seeing this ask. anon isn’t bullshitting. as if the absolute metric tons of racism that already existed in the game wasn’t enough i guess 😑 holy shit
as a follow up: we’ve got a few asks clarifying the stageplay is not associated with netease even though it’s officially licensed under the IDV name. regardless, the stageplay shouldn’t be supported at all in its own right because like genuinely what the fuck
Just to inform you guys, people on twitter are spreading rumors that the OPs of this are harassers/stalkers. Do you guys want to address the accusations?
these people are welcome to try and like send us an ask or something trying to contact us because last time we checked we definitely aren’t harassers and stalkers lmao. this honestly just seems like people jumping to conclusions and trying to air out previous beef with like exes or something tbh this is usually how anonymously-run things go.
Turns out the stageplay for idv is using blackface for Patricia!!! What the actual fuck!!! I don't think I need to explain why this is bad!!! The account's name is @IdentityV_stage on twitter!!! Harass the shit out of them!!!
https://twitter.com/micako_otowa yeah i looked into this myself by checking the actress’ twt after seeing this ask. anon isn’t bullshitting. as if the absolute metric tons of racism that already existed in the game wasn’t enough i guess 😑 holy shit
hey i get the point of the callout but norton is mexican and properly researched into, his dancing emote and taunting emote are based on mexican culture as well (mexican players on twitter backs this up if you ask them)
We did research on Prospector heavily, and there is nothing in his backstory/deductions that indicate he is anything less than white. If nothing else, IDV has a strong tend of making their nonwhite characters exceptionally open and apparent, leading us to believe this is fanon. If there is actual 100% certain proof that he is not white, we’ll apologize and update accordingly.
Gonna ignore the ask regarding African culture history and rape? Or are you going to keep acting like black people outside of white colonization dont exist?
Norton having a dias de los muertos outfits isnt appropriation hes mexican. Cowboy is very obviously not white and only white folks thinks cowboys are white. much like how they think jesus is white. Yall rlly are very insensitive and uninformed.
as though we have no indication on his race, and it seems to be fanon that hes actually mexican, we can say that him being dressed up as a catrín is inappropriate assuming the original meaning behind the catrina being about racism and classism and the skin focusing on souls?.. the marketing of the image of the catrina is another issue in itself which ive personally seen throughout the years as mexican citizen which also plays out here by its marketing in the game
