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alot to ponder on from what I've read in your post earlier,,,
I always love talking about things I dont understand!!
and I think alot more could get done if people could talk openly and honestly about weird and taboo and uncomfortable subjects and understand themselves and each other more
thank you for sharing!! it was very eye opening for me ^_^ have a good day
Thank you, it means a lot!! I hope the best of luck for you in your journey and wherever you decide to go with this or anything else :)
hey I just wanted to ask, why do you draw what you do?
I would love to hear about your thoughts on it.
and no of course you dont have to answer this!! dont feel like you have to.
I've been diving more into learning about what proshipping and all that stuff. I used to think proshipping/darkshipping was all terrible and if you had any hand in it that makes you gross and predatory and creepy and advocate for it irl..
but I really dont think that's the case anymore.
i think, that its just something that helps people cope with terrible things that just... unfortunately happen sometimes.
have a good day, bye
Hi, I’d love to answer this! Honestly it’s a very, very long conversation that I’ve had many times but I’ve always loved having regardless. I’m not the best writer so I apologize if this isn’t all great.
None of this is factual or said with 1000% certainty, just my two cents. My own personal ideas and thoughts. Sorry if it’s not well organized, I know I’m sloppy in my writing, don’t really care for proper grammar and punctuation atm. There’s always more to this conversation cause I have it so much and I always have more to say about it. I hope this did something for you! I might revise this when I’m in a more clear headed place
The general gist is that I make what I make for a few reasons but the main reason is simply because I just want to. But obviously it’s more than just that. I want to make people feel seen, and also bring light to topics frequently brushed over. And if I’m being honest, I’m also very self indulgent at times when it comes to art and creating.
But I am going to rant a bit because I always love talking about this sort of thing lol
Every person has their own tastes in what they want to consume and make. I personally believe that things will never be black and white and relationships and everything will always be so much more nuanced than we make it out to be. The fear of talking about nuanced abuse just results in victims having a harder time understanding themselves and their experience. People frequently act like abusive relationships only look like an evil abuser and an innocent victim. But it’s tenfold more complicated than that. I want to bring light to that and I want to explore that in my creations. I’ve had experiences and trauma in the past as well, unsurprisingly, but it is one of my many motivations. I was a victim of abuse and my abusers were victims too. And even if it wasn’t as extreme, it was still bad when I too continued the cycle of abuse. There’s so many complex feelings and emotions and thoughts that come with these experiences and I think someone ought to talk about it.
I’m not going to act like this is all completely right either. Because yes I’ve developed personal infatuations with certain aspects and yes I do find myself with sexual interests in this taboo. I don’t really care if people judge each other for that, I do the same. It becomes an issue when people start attacking each other and harming people in real life. It’s fine to judge but not to hurt. I’m much more extreme than a lot of my peers in real life, but a lot less extreme than my peers online. Sometimes I’ll judge people but I’ve always kept it to myself. It’s not my place to police. Again if they’re not doing real life non-consensual harm to anyone then it’s not my business.
I used to be a very huge anti as well - I’ve only very recently been into more taboo media. It took me a very long time to come to terms with these aspects of myself. And it helped me become more comfortable in my sexuality and understanding my traumas and its ties to it. Even when I was an anti, I barely ever went out of my way to harass anybody. I think one of my turning points was when I saw that people were wishing a dark shipper to die of cancer. To die even at all. It’s just really sad. Very recently I saw an nsfw artist who drew anthro, noncon, etc. be called a zoophile rapist pedo. Which was kind of just baffling to me lmfao. I think it shouldn’t even be a question that obviously yes fiction affects reality but fiction is not reality. Video games don’t always cause violence, sometimes they bring light to untouched issues. The answer is simply that it just depends and it’s not black and white. I think the worst of it is how much I see people prioritizing fictional characters over real life people. Countless hours spent over cancelling someone for shipping age gap or asking their mutuals if they think they’re problematic for doing something slightly wrong when there are real life people being horrifically abused, and that number goes up constantly. Like why are we making an uproar because someone drew Anya mouthwashing with her boobs out when your neighbors are the real life abusers in question?
I never really liked the terms of anti or proshipper or the other ones for that matter. I think the meanings have strayed far from what they originally meant. I just make what I make and I think there’s more important things to be doing than internet discourse that means nothing when you go outside. I think when I stopped being an anti and I stopped caring about these labels, it was a part of my own maturity. I struggled with heavy repression and shame of my sexuality as well as hyper sexuality, but also my creativity. I guess removing my worry about it also helped me to be better creatively and sexually (which goes hand in hand imo). I think also just seeing how much fetish and kink played a part in queer culture and realizing that persecution of individuals who simply have fetishes and kinks (rather than paraphilias that they fully act on) lead to (and IS) persecution of innocent queer people.
I think it’s obvious as to why antis and even proshippers can be so adamant. It’s just a fight about moral superiority. People feel out powerless in their real lives so they take power where they can find it. As a generalization, antis are either afraid of being morally wrong or they find superiority in policing it. And continuing that, proshippers find superiority in policing it too, but also in celebrating the edge of it, in a sense.
It’s also worth to mention that it doesn’t have to be a coping mechanism. It pretty much is for me, but that’s beside the point. it becomes harmful when people start believing that you can only be into something if you went through something. You can’t go up to every single person with a noncon fetish and demand proof that they’ve been assaulted. Sometimes people are just into things and we should just leave it at that because it’s not our business period. Again the real abusers lurk everywhere regardless. Indulging in a harmless way isn’t what makes people act on these obsessions, it’s repression and the rush of it being forbidden. We need to talk about these things MORE, and that includes the weirdness that comes with it
speaking of kenlee, here's a comic that I started making last summer but never got around to completing it because I'm bad at finishing big projects lol
if you're queer YOU HAVE to support contradictory labels i am no longer asking.
they do not do anything to harm you. the trans man that lives in Yemen doesn't care you don't think lesbian trans men cannot be possible.
lesbian man, mspec lesbian, gaybian, gay girl, and all of that doesn't need YOU to see them as possible to be able to exist. you cannot try to make yourself look good while policing people's identities
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