source: homestuck pgs 3507, 3508, 3514, 4065 & book 2 pg 314
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source: homestuck pgs 3507, 3508, 3514, 4065 & book 2 pg 314
source: homestuck pgs 2972, 3438 & book 6 pg 134
i would not be able to survive on alternia. not for any of the obvious reasons, though it is true it would be difficult. but because i would log onto troll tumblr and post something like "having a moirail who hates themselves is kinda ashen ngl" and someone who thinks the quadrants are a law of nature would blow up my computer within the hour. because they have an entire programming language that can just do that. somehow.
i think vriska is troll bisexual. aka she likes people in ways that are across multiple quadrants and also some people in just one quadrant.
like vrisrezi is so obviously not in quadrants. along with dare i say her feelings for tavros (worlds craziest blackpalered quadrant smearing) but she kept trying to force them into just matespritship because she felt thats what she had to do. like compulsive quadrant.
but i think her like blackrom thing with eridan or her moirallegiance with kanaya were both in one quadrant only. and she did later vacillitate to blackrom with kanaya but that was only one quadrant
she is also human bisexual but i dont want to get into that. #evilbisexualrepresentation
People don't take enough advantage of the homestuck quadrants in other fandoms. Like, yeah these two characters hate each other in canon but I ship them as kismesis not matesprites 🙄
Can you elaborate on what you meant with that ashen post? What do quadrant misunderstandings have to do with Eridan
oh my god, absolutely.
first of all, the fandom seemed to take eridan at his word when he said moirallegiance was a lesser romance akin to a friendzone; that's its own problem.
but in relation to blackrom: the toxic, horrible behavior that eridan displays in his flirting is often taken by fans to prove that kismesissitude is an inherently abusive, unnatural quadrant that the empire forces young trolls into. but this is incorrect.
as stated by multiple characters in-text AND by andrew hussie later: this behavior is not pitch at all. it's ashen flirting.
feferi calls out how transparent this bullshit is instantly. terezi, too, gets caught up in this when eridan decides to drag her into it, but she is also not having his shit. both of them read him for how fake he is. and that's not even going into how completely uninterested sollux was in this “rivalry”.
hussie, in the commentary, also states that eridan's obviously outrageous behavior is basically textbook for an ashen solicitation.
i feel that it's also worth mentioning that when eridan had a real kismesis, his relationship with her was amiable, and they even supported each other as teammates and allies in their campaigns. the second she gets bored of him, eridan starts pretending their relationship is volatile and going to “become murderous” to get kanaya to auspistize for him… sound familiar?
and now here is what eridan looks like when he's actually pitch flirting. notice how despite his obvious assholery, eridan also tries to treat her with weird respect and pay her compliments? there's a noticeable difference between how eridan treats someone he actually has a pitch thing for and how he treats sollux.
with sollux, eridan is intentionally going way over the line, to goad people into stopping him. i discussed this before in reference to vriska/kanaya/tavros, but trolls actually obviously don't want their relationships to become unpleasant. they have an entire quadrant dedicated to intervening if they think a relationship isn't healthy. and the relationship going extremely toxic is attributed to a failure of auspisticism, not a natural facet of pitch romance.
this is what eridan's treatment of sollux is. it's unhealthy, by troll standards. which is saying something! it says that trolls have standards for blackrom; standards that make them think trolls like vriska, gamzee and eridan are going too far.
so that's what my funny little image was trying to encapsulate. that fandom has such a blind spot when it comes to ashen relationships that it makes them misinterpret pitch romance as well. they forget that it's literally proven in-comic that trolls don't accept shit tons of toxicity as normal in their romance. (of course it gets a little more complicated when caste dynamics are introduced, but in the end other trolls still wish to auspistize in cases like terezi/gamzee.)
ashen romance has a purpose, and people straight up refusing to acknowledge one of the four romances in the four romance system throws their perspective of the entire thing off balance.
i usually find claims that characters are multiquadranted really annoying, because those claims often rest on two characters having a single interaction that seems "unconventional" for their supposed quadrant... when, in homestuck itself, quadrants are proven time and time again not to be only one stereotypical emotion.
moirails can argue. kismeses can be kind. matesprits are allowed platonic competition and rage. and even actual vacillation itself, while something that causes social drama and infidelity, is considered par for the course in troll romance.
sometimes i think people need to open their minds to the diversity of what quadranted relationships can even look like.
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Said this in the tags of a reblog of a different post a while ago but wanted to make it its own post
AU where eridians follow the homestuck quadrants system. Gracerocky become THEE pale serendipity story of all time, knockoffs of their life story dominate pale romance fiction for the next two centuries minimum. While Rocky was gone, Adrian had to dump multiple pitch suitors who were angling to eventually vacillate red (this also gets the romance fiction treatment, if more subdued). Rocky turns out to be kind of a pitch slut (this does not make it into the romance novels).
(Basically he falls in and out of rivalries on the regular mostly based on whose engineering ideas he’s beefing with at the time, it’s a farce to the degree that Grace sometimes doesn’t realize Rocky is complaining about a different pitch paramour than last time bc they changed over so fast he didn’t even realize.)
Human ideas of conflict mediation lead to Grace accidentally becoming the neighborhood’s ashen center-leaf bicycle. Rocky has to break it to him that the trinkets people keep giving him are not little thank yous for solving their relationship problems, they are coy invitations to be the couple’s semi-permanent semi-platonic third.
in terms of so-called "differences" between trolls and humans, the quadrants are a major sticking point for a lot of people. ive talked at length about this, but it never stops being relevant, because none of yall are interested in acknowledging that the quads are an oppressive societal construct created to maintain control and are a direct representation of human romance. you should not take troll romance OR human romance at face value as biological or neutral facts, because both of them are patriarchal constructs! the fact one of the quads is just regular human romance is the story basically screaming this in your face!
-copitch, -coash -copale, -coflush
coquadrants - terms for when someone experiences a specific quadrant attraction, but only alongside another quadrant. this may be in a quadrant vacillation way, a mixed quadrant way, or any other experience where one feels they feel two or more quadrants at the same time for one person.
pitchcoflush, blackcoflush, ashencoflush
pitchcoflush - a term for when someone experiences flushed attraction, but only alongside pitch attraction.
blackcoflush - a term for when someone experiences flushed attraction, but only alongside black romance attraction.
ashencoflush - a term for when someone experiences flushed attraction, but only alongside ashen attraction.
I do not plan to coin the other coquadrant terms. Feel free to make them and @ me if you so please. 💖
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the concept of the trolls having friendships should be written differently.
like, the trolls don't have friendship in their culture. their word for it is same as enemies. they have this restrictive quadrant system that basically means any relationship they have is forced to be romantic.
a troll thinking about another troll and coming to the horrifying realisation that they want to hang out with them, but are annoyed around them. and it. doesnt fit into any quadrants. and. maybe if there was romance there they could say it was a panquadrant thing. like the signless. but they don't even want to kiss the other troll. all they want is to hang around with them.
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