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I always forget there are maga people on tumblr, this doesn’t feel like a website you’d find them on, so to keep them away:
Reblog if your blog is a maga free zone because if it wasn’t clear enough fuck ice, fuck maga, fuck Trump, Fuck Rowling, and fuck all the other bigots I missed
I've literally been thinking about him all day
It's not even funny.
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hey girl ( / gn ) here's your reminder that you do NOT want character.ai . you want to SHIFT . you just think that going on character.ai as compared to going to your dr is easier . it is NOT !!!!!!!!!! you're just filling the void when you go on character.ai . girl go shift . you won't kill the planet then & contribute to the questionable data collection . plus !!! you'll actually see your s/o and live your life then , as compared to yip yapping with an ooc ai chatbot you gotta swipe right on to try to get a message other than " can i ask you a question " x 100 . so . GET OFF C.AI AND GO SHIFT !
I genuinely believe that Shiftok is the booktok of the Shifting community. I mean, there are good creators, but most of the information is incomplete, over-processed, or simply misinforms.
i’m begging you to never ever give up on shifting. it found you for a reason. you deserve to shift. you deserve to experience what those realities offer to you. it is worth it. if you’ve lost motivation or feel yourself running out of it, please just be reminded that you owe it to yourself, the you now and the you that was so fucking excited to learn what shifting was. the you that realized all you dreams can be true.
you deserve to be loved by someone fully. someone devoted only ever to you. someone who loves you loudly and unapologetically. someone who loves you as easy as they breath. someone who cares about the little things. someone who would do anything for you. someone who knows all your favorite things. someone who knows the things you don’t like and why you don’t like them. someone obsessed with you in the way that you’re obsessed with them. someone who goes out of their way for you and would do everything to reach you.
you deserve friends that stick up for you. friends that listen to you. friends you can trust and that can trust you. friends that will answer a call from you no matter the time. friends that know how to cheer you up. friends who make you laugh. friends who make you feel included. friends that make you feel valued.
you deserve family. not family only by blood, but family by love. a family that loves you. a family you love. a family that treats you correctly. a family that cares for you. a family that respects you and your opinions. a family willing to do anything and everything for you. a family that would go to war for you.
you deserve a life without feeling doomed. a life not spent hiding who you are. a life where you aren’t always looking to escape. a life of adventures. a life full of love. a life of magic. a life of travel. a life of fortune. a life with powers. a life in space. a life on sea. a life with things others view as fantasies. a life with literally anything you want. shifting found you and is a part of you. you deserve what it can bring you. please never give up on that.
In my opinion, the "anti-shifter" label should no longer be used
(English isn't my first language, so I'll be using a translator. Also, I'm not an expert in psychology, so feel free to add or correct anything in this post.)
These past few days I've been dealing with personal issues, mostly dealing with old wounds from seeking approval from others, and lately it's been with the so-called "anti-shifters."
Now, I'll talk about the topic in the title, but I'll also touch on other topics that might be interesting, and I'll divide them into different points.
This post is also to help me and others who are going through the same thing; however, it's also good to seek professional help. This issue goes beyond shifting and deals more with the endless problem of hateful comments online and how they can affect you mentally.
"Arguments" of the skeptics.
I know you've seen these endless comments and they bore you (which I completely understand), but I want you to know that there's no tangible proof that shifting doesn't exist beyond personal opinions. I'd even venture to say there's more evidence that it's real than not, and we experience this proof every day. You're constantly shifting between realities; every decision, every day, every blink is a reality shift, which is something studied scientifically and philosophically (e.g., metaphysics).
These so-called arguments are nothing more than ignorance; they're just voiced loudly, which makes them seem louder. Often, they're insults, mockery, and random diagnoses made without a real understanding of what these illnesses that affect people daily actually mean.
Yes, there are arguments I understand perfectly, but most of the ones I've come across are just rehashed versions of the same thing. Speaking of the 2020 shift (memories of Vietnam), with all the misinformation, which I personally find valid, it doesn't help that Shiftok is still annoying and full of misinformation to this day. Comparing it to something similar but not the same, there are people who believe that Witchtok is what witchcraft really is, because they don't take the time to investigate beyond the video on their screens. They think that just by posting a comment, they've already destroyed a practice that has been practiced (redundancy intended) since the beginning of civilization. I'll share a personal anecdote: in a Shiftok video, I came across a discussion between a shifter and two skeptical people in the comments. To be honest, this shifter had very weak arguments, a product of the same misinformation about Shiftok. The same thing would happen if, instead of a shifter, the person were a feminist who got their arguments from TikTok and BuzzFeed; obviously, it would be a complete disaster. I'll divide these skeptics into "A" and "B." "A's" arguments were just as weak, if not weaker, than those of the shifter in question. Their "arguments" consisted of insults, personal opinions, and—as far as I could see—a complete projection of how this person views their life onto this shifter. Now, "B" had valid arguments, at least in my opinion. This person argued more against the shifter's mistakes in the debate than against the validity of the practice itself. I agreed with this person on one specific point, which was about the symptoms. They argued that the symptoms could be scientifically explained, which is true (at the end of this post, I'll include some accounts that discuss this topic in more depth). Most of the symptoms are normal bodily reactions, and that's where so much misinformation about shiftok comes in. They also have a serious problem with the concept of "symptoms," which I believe is part of why the community isn't taken seriously. Because people are still stuck at the same pace (I'm also talking about myself at one time).
Videos and other things
Continuing with the comments from the previous topic, but in a different package, videos, whether from Tiktok or YouTube, are the same thing, just wrapped differently.
Anyone can make a video on Tiktok or YouTube, grab a few posts, mock, insult, and diagnose, then go back to bed feeling accomplished.
This has been seen ad nauseam millions of times, just with different platforms and different topics. Clear examples: heavier topics like feminism, spirituality, so-called "anti-woke" videos (which are also related to feminism), trans people, pronouns, etc.
It's very easy to misunderstand something and, instead of investigating, call it weird, stupid, and even worse, jump on the bandwagon of false moral concern (on the same level as insulting someone with obesity and then hiding behind "it's for their health") to try to defend the stupidity you just said.
These videos are almost always not open to debate or explanation; they're open for people like them to comment on the videos with more of the same, etc., etc.
Right now we're seeing it with the Therians, and it will continue to happen. The reason is that people like this will always exist. They don't have a personal problem with shifters, they don't have a personal issue with therians, nor with witches, people who practice manifestation, subliminal audios, etc., etc. They just want a group to mock, get views and a few likes, and that's how they make a living for the rest of the week. The reason? Because negative content gets more engagement; there's a reason rage bait exists.
It also happened with the K-pop fandom when the genre was becoming more relevant in the West. It also happened with fanfiction, ships, cosplay, anime, etc. They see something that's trending to make fun of, they grab it, and they get views with it, and that's it, because it's the easiest thing to do, the easiest way to market, and it doesn't require any research. It just requires you to sit in your chair, make fun of TikTok videos, upload it, and that's it! Now you have food for the weekend.
Let's remove the "anti-shifter" label
My suggestion for how to refer to them is simply not to give them a name. It's stupid, and we're just giving them a platform in the conversation to behave even more rudely and create accounts with that label to mock more freely. These kinds of people don't care if shifting is real or not, they don't care about the difference between lucid dreaming and reality shifting, nor do they care how they too can shift realities because, COME ON! We all have the ability to shift. They just want to make fun of someone, and that says more about them than about you, me, or this community.
What's my advice? Don't waste your time with these people because that's how they are with shifting, that's how they are with other things they consider "weird" (simply things they don't understand). Don't reply to their comments, just block or report them because what they want is for you to fall into their trap so they can mock you to your face. They don't care about your arguments, your research, they just want to make fun of you.
There's a clear difference between these people and those who don't shift their minds or simply don't believe. Someone can express genuine doubt and say, "Oh, now I understand. I won't practice it, but it's okay if you do." We're so used to seeing rude people and thinking we're wrong, but the truth is, being rude is a choice.
A debate isn't about who wins or loses; it's a conversation where each person presents their arguments respectfully and reaches a cohesive point where both can agree. Accounts I recommend! @novashifts @apeironshiftingg @mywitchyblog
Also just to let all of you know; unfollow me if you support trump and/or ice in any fucking way. Unfollow me if you VOTED for trump and only now disagree with him. Unfollow me if you're homophobic, transphobic, racist, ablist, or misogynistic. Unfollow me if you "don't do politics" because it "upsets you" or "you're too lazy". Unfollow me if you don't stand with Palestine, congo, Iran or ANY country that is going through oppression. Unfollow me if youve said the line "but they came here illegally". Unfollow me if you dont agree with abortion. Unfollow me if you use gospel/the bible to agrue opinions (God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit would hate you - coming from someone who grew up in a catholic church for SIXTEEN years and was forced to study scripture.)
Don't come onto my blog. Don't even breathe near me or my blog. Infact, block me. I hate all of the people like you. H A T E. Like, a deep hatred that will never be fixed. I'll never forgive you or tolerate you or give you the light of day. I've cut off family for the same reason, ive cut off family for LESS, I could not give less of a fuck about you.
I am radicalized af. I am woke af. I'm compassionate. I see everyone as a human being. I will purposely make sure you go to bed pissed off and upset, and if this in any way triggers you or upsets you or makes you even slightly uncomfortable: its meant for you. Bye x
Also just to let all of you know; unfollow me if you support trump and/or ice in any fucking way. Unfollow me if you VOTED for trump and only now disagree with him. Unfollow me if you're homophobic, transphobic, racist, ablist, or misogynistic. Unfollow me if you "don't do politics" because it "upsets you" or "you're too lazy". Unfollow me if you don't stand with Palestine, congo, Iran or ANY country that is going through oppression. Unfollow me if youve said the line "but they came here illegally". Unfollow me if you dont agree with abortion. Unfollow me if you use gospel/the bible to agrue opinions (God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit would hate you - coming from someone who grew up in a catholic church for SIXTEEN years and was forced to study scripture.)
Don't come onto my blog. Don't even breathe near me or my blog. Infact, block me. I hate all of the people like you. H A T E. Like, a deep hatred that will never be fixed. I'll never forgive you or tolerate you or give you the light of day. I've cut off family for the same reason, ive cut off family for LESS, I could not give less of a fuck about you.
I am radicalized af. I am woke af. I'm compassionate. I see everyone as a human being. I will purposely make sure you go to bed pissed off and upset, and if this in any way triggers you or upsets you or makes you even slightly uncomfortable: its meant for you. Bye x
so I got into grad school today with my shitty 2.8 gpa and the moral of the story is reblog those good luck posts for the love of god
okay so i just got my dream job??? a week after applying to it?? and now i’m thinking….maybe this is the good luck post
…..not even six hours later i got an offer of a well paying full time long-term job with free room and board in queens in nyc, allowing me independence and a way to escape an abusive situation and an unhealthy environment
likes charge reblogs cast, folks, this is the good luck post
in case you folks didnt know this is a form of technomagic where each time the post is reblogged it gets even more powerful because reblogging it is like casting it on yourself with the power and energy of all the reactions this post has.
So i suggest you write things you wish to happen to you like affirmations and so on exemples are :
I mastered Reality Shifting
I am effortlessy succesful in everything i do
my spellcraft is flawless
i serve cunt like im breathing
i am a multimillionaire by 2025
My face card is never declines and is always lethal.
My buisnesses are succesful beyond my wildest dreams.
I shift realities like i am breathing
Write it with the intention of it coming true for an even more powerful effect write it in green (color of luck) and in italic its like you putting an emphasis on it.
Lil witchy tip
“i’m demotivated bcs someone told me shifting isnt real”
EVERY BELIEF HAS PEOPLE WHO SAY ITS NOT REAL BRO LOCK IN
the shifting experience:
ACCEPT that it is simple, ACCEPT that it is easy
You are just struggling to find something because you don't accept that you have already found it and that it is already done.
The moment you accept that
> you don't need to affirm
> you don't need to believe
> you don't need to impress your subconscious
> you don't need methods
> you don't need more knowledge about
> you don't need to have another click
You only need the I AM (your consciousness) that is you, that is inside you. You only need to want and decide.
But how to decide? How to assume?
Live FROM it. and not for it.
What do you want? Decide.
Sp? Create your logical basis.
I AM perfect, I AM loved. Why? Because I exist. Because I want. Because I say so.
The basis is ready. STICK TO IT. And he/she has no choice but to correspond to that.
Why? Because you decided.
Money? create the logical basis.
I am worthy. I am abundant. I am valuable. Why? Because I exist. My existence is worth millions.
The basis is ready. STICK TO IT. And money has no choice but to come to you.
Why? Because you decided.
ACCEPT THAT IT IS SIMPLE AND EASY LIKE THIS, there are no "buts" and no "what ifs". Once you decided, in your imagination, created a basis logic for your ego ITS DONE. Let the magic of the law happens, but allow it.
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HERE ARE YOUR DAMN SIGNS. now lock in. we, yes WE, are shifting tonight (or whenever we attempt to). THAT’S IT. BEND this reality over. you’re the ALPHA. COMMAND IT AND SHIFT.
✧˖°. 𝒔𝒉𝒊𝒇𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒂𝒈 𝒈𝒂𝒎𝒆
We all love shifting tag games should we start one now? Yes.
✧˖°. make a moodboard in that form with the pictures you think suits it best. add little descriptions or fun facts to each of them to make it even more interesting. just have fun!
✧˖°. I'll go first!
dr self: Lady Daenys Arryn (House of the Dragon dr),
clothes: favourite satin blue ball gown,
color: Arryn (cobalt) blue,
eyes: blue for ones and violet for others but it’s in fact a perfect blend of these colors,
flower: bluebells (symbolize humility, gratitude, and everlasting love but also resilience, mystery, enchantment),
animal: my beloved dragon, Silverwing,
hairstyle: half-up half-down locks, perfect for both dragon riding and spending time in comfort of your own chambers,
place: the Eyrie, the ancestral seat of my house,
quote: It takes grace to remain kind in cruel situations by Rupi Kaur. Cliché? A bit. True? By all means, yes.
tags: @easyboyrecliner, @marvelshifter111 , @wipemeoutofyourmemory , @daydreaminglilac1128 , @moonsrkives + anyone who wants!
yo también quise :b
Dr. Self: Helena Cortez ( spiderverse dr )
Ropa: outfit blanco, muy inspirado en fluttershy
Color: rosa pastel
Ojos: ojos azules oscuros y grandes
Flor: flor de cerezo
Animal: un ciervo
Peinado: pelo corto con mechones en trenza decorado con una cinta
Lugar: la spider society :b
Cita: fui creada para crear
When people say shifting was meant for you, it's very important that you take it serious and believe that statement because it is.Its not some random thing you suddenly discovered.It was yours all along and it will be.and that's the most beautiful thing ever
Ok so I have gotten in to lucid dreaming recently and (unfortunately) discovered "reality shifting"
So anyway this is just to remind yall that you're not fucking shifting reality your lucid dreaming. If youre going to sleep and "waking up in a new reality" your lucid dreaming.
And like.. that doesn't make it any less profound or interesting! It's actually (imo) more fun that it's all in my brain because I can communicate with my subconscious. Like you can have a conversation with your brain!
And before yall are like "ooo why do you care" you're encouraging people to disconnect with fucking reality. It's harmful. It's misinformation, and it's complete fucking bullshit. Like I'm sorry telling people that their dreams are in fact real life, and maybe even more important than their actual life is bad actually.
Like look at that shit??? "You're not shifting your remembering" dude the fuck?? "Don't listen to the people telling you you're delusional!" Like this shit is fucking evil!
Also culture wise I swear to god all of yall post in the anti shifting tag which is why I'm posting in both. If you're going to put your bullshit in my face I am going to confront you with reality.
Be so fucking for real right now.
You literally have no substance to your arguments, no actual concrete research into what shifting is, what it entails, the premise, the diversity of opinions, the various philosophical discussions regarding shifting. None. You didn't read a single thing beyond your own biased assumptions.
You just decided, like every other braindead anti-shifter, to look up a couple posts, see some that you took out of context, and then boom - delicious hasty generalization fallacy à la "look, these people are crazy!" "It's fucking lucid dreaming!" "You're escaping and disconnecting yourself from reality!"
"I'm going to confront you with reality."
Chile, anyways...
You do realize that shifters are vast, right? Students, philosophers, occultists, spiritualists, psychologists - we all come in various shapes and sizes. We're not a monolith. But nooo! An uneducated, petulant loser who "dabbles in spirituality" here and there and literally just started lucid dreaming last week is going to show us the truth. AHHHH, thank you so much, oh wise one who's been conscious of their dreams for approximately five minutes!
The fucking audacity.
You admitted yourself you "recently got into lucid dreaming" and then "unfortunately discovered shifting" - meaning you've been in the consciousness exploration game for what, a week? Two weeks max? And you already think you're qualified to make universal pronouncements about phenomena people have been experiencing, studying, and theorizing about for years?
Who the fuck let this child speak?
Sweetie, you are way too young, way too uneducated, and way too inexperienced to be making such arguments and saying "I will confront you with the truth." You've barely scratched the surface of your own subconscious through beginner lucid dreaming and you think that qualifies you to debunk entire metaphysical frameworks?
Sit the fuck down.
"IT'S JUST LUCID DREAMING"
You keep screaming this like it's some profound revelation. It's not. It's the most predictable, tired, recycled take in the entire anti-shifting playbook. Every single person who knows nothing about shifting says this exact same thing.
And you know why? Because lucid dreaming is the only altered state you've ever heard of. It's the only tool in your incredibly limited toolbox, so you just start smashing everything with it hoping something sticks.
Here's what you clearly don't understand:
Lucid dreaming has been extensively studied. We know its limits:
REM-state phenomenon - tied to specific sleep cycles
Unstable - environments shift, physics don't work consistently
Subconscious-driven - heavily influenced by your memories and expectations
Limited duration - typically minutes, maybe an hour
Partial control - you can manipulate things but it's not absolute
Dream logic - things don't have to make sense
No external information - you can't learn things you didn't already know
Researchers like Stephen LaBerge, Allan Hobson, Ursula Voss, and Antti Revonsuo have documented all of this extensively. These are the actual limits of lucid dreaming according to science.
Shifting reports consistently describe:
Full sensory immersion - temperature, texture, taste, smell, pain at CR levels
Stable environments - consistent physics, geography, timelines
Autonomous characters - people who surprise you, disagree with you, have their own motivations
Extended duration - days, weeks, months, even years in DR time
Coherent logic - things make sense according to that reality's rules
Information retrieval - details you didn't know, languages you couldn't speak
No omnipotent control - you can't just wish things into being like in a dream
These are fundamentally different phenomenological profiles.
But you wouldn't know that. Because you haven't done the reading. You barely understand your own dreams and you're out here trying to categorize everyone else's consciousness experiences.
The arrogance is fucking astronomical.
"YOU'RE DISCONNECTING FROM REALITY, THIS IS HARMFUL"
I agree that there is some very harmful and toxic rhetoric within the shifting community. Yes. Absolutely. Is that an excuse for you to act like a fucking braindead, uneducated individual who just discovered consciousness last Tuesday? No.
Your moral panic about "disconnecting from reality" is embarrassing and reveals how little you know about human history.
Every single known culture on Earth has developed practices involving altered states of consciousness:
Shamanic traditions - from Siberia to the Amazon to Africa, shamans have practiced "soul flight" or journeying to other worlds to obtain knowledge, communicate with spirits, or facilitate healing. Anthropologists have documented these as structured, repeatable altered states with consistent inner geographies. Not random chaos. Not delusion. Structured experiences passed down through generations.
Tibetan Buddhism - developed detailed systems of Dream Yoga where practitioners train to remain aware in dreams and use them as paths to awakening. They literally treat dream reality as a meaningful domain of experience. The Bardo Thödol (Tibetan Book of the Dead) is an entire manual for navigating intermediate states of consciousness between death and rebirth, assuming consciousness can move through entirely different experiential realities.
Islamic mysticism - Sufis describe heavenly ascent experiences and traversing spiritual realms through altered consciousness.
Hindu traditions - the Upanishads describe multiple lokas (realms) accessible to consciousness. Yogic practices involve accessing subtle body states beyond ordinary awareness.
Christian mysticism - mystics like Teresa of Ávila described rapture states where consciousness enters entirely different experiential domains.
The Eleusinian Mysteries - ancient Greeks accessing profound altered states through ritual.
Indigenous vision quests - across cultures worldwide, structured practices for accessing non-ordinary consciousness.
This isn't some TikTok trend. This is a human universal.
Cross-cultural anthropology has documented this for over a century. Psychology distinguishes between pathological dissociation and culturally sanctioned, structured altered states. Shamanic "soul flight" has been studied in neuroanthropology as an adaptive, ritualized altered state, not automatically as psychosis.
You're not calling modern shifters delusional. You're accidentally calling thousands of years of human spiritual practice across every continent "bullshit" because it doesn't fit your tiny worldview.
If you're going to say all of that is just "people disconnecting from reality," then own that massive claim. Own that you're dismissing millennia of human experience because you personally don't understand it. Don't pretend you're just being "rational."
SHIFTING INSCRIBES ITSELF INTO PERENNIAL PHILOSOPHY
And this is what you fundamentally don't get. Shifting isn't some random internet phenomenon. It inscribes itself into this perennial philosophy people have had since the dawn of time - that there is something else out there, that alternate states of consciousness exist, that reality is more than what we see in ordinary waking life.
Calling these traditions "proto-shifting" is a stretch, yes - they're not exactly the same thing. But shifting inscribes itself in the same logic, the same evolution and amalgamation of spiritual beliefs that humanity has explored forever:
Consciousness is not bound to one body or timeline
Multiple realities, dimensions, or planes exist simultaneously
You can access these through altered states
Subjective experience is as real as physical reality
Belief and intention shape what you experience
These concepts appear across time, geography, and culture because they touch on something fundamental about consciousness and existence.
Philosophers have been grappling with this forever:
Spinoza's monism - everything that exists is one infinite substance. Mind and matter are just different attributes of the same reality. Deus sive Natura - God or Nature. This means consciousness is not separate from reality. They're expressions of the same fundamental substance.
LOA (Law of Assumption/Attraction) is built on this foundation. When LOA says "we are God" or "consciousness creates reality," it's not random self-help bullshit. It's structurally compatible with Spinoza's metaphysics. If consciousness is an expression of the infinite substance, and that substance IS reality, then consciousness has creative power within that reality.
Shifting fits perfectly into this framework. You're aligning your consciousness with a different configuration of the infinite substance. Different timeline, different reality-branch, but all part of the same totality.
But you wouldn't know any of this. Because you've never studied Spinoza. You've never studied metaphysics. You think "spirituality" is just vibes and crystals and maybe reading tarot when you're bored.
You're spiritually cosplaying, not comprehending.
WILLIAM JAMES & THE FILTER THEORY
Then there's William James and Henri Bergson who argued that the brain doesn't create consciousness - it filters it. The brain acts as a "reducing valve" that limits access to a much wider field of mind. Aldous Huxley later developed this into his theory of consciousness.
If that's even approximately correct - and it's a serious philosophical position taken by major thinkers - then shifting could be understood as changing the filter. Altering what "bandwidth" of consciousness you're accessing. Opening the valve to tune into different experiential configurations.
This is a legitimate framework in philosophy of mind.
You don't have to agree with it. But you can't honestly act like it's just "stupid bullshit" when major philosophers have argued for it.
"SCIENCE ISN'T ABLE NOR WILL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING"
And here's the thing you really don't want to hear: science is limited. It can't explain everything, and it never will be able to explain everything.
Science can't even explain consciousness itself.
The "hard problem of consciousness" - how does subjective experience arise from physical matter? Why is there something it's like to be you? Why do you experience the "redness" of red instead of just processing wavelengths?
Science has no fucking answer. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
Neuroscience can map correlates - "when this brain region activates, people report this experience" - but that's correlation, not explanation. We can see what the brain does. We have no idea how that becomes subjective experience.
So demanding "scientific proof" of shifting when science can't even explain your normal waking consciousness is fucking ridiculous.
And here's what really matters: there are thousands upon thousands of experiences that correlate with what people refer to as shifting.
You know how we know it's not "just lucid dreaming"? Because yes, spoiler alert, we know based on deep studies what you can and cannot do in lucid dreams, what you can and cannot feel while lucid dreaming.
Lucid dreaming research has documented its boundaries. Shifters consistently report experiences outside those boundaries:
Sensory fidelity beyond REM dream parameters
Timelines extending far beyond typical dream duration
Information they couldn't have known
Consistency and stability beyond dream logic
Autonomous characters with genuine independence
You can't just wave all of that away with "it's lucid dreaming" when the actual science of lucid dreaming doesn't support that claim.
"YOU'RE NOT SHIFTING, YOU'RE REMEMBERING" - YOU MOCKED THIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND METAPHYSICS
When people say "you're not shifting, you're remembering," they're working from a specific metaphysical framework. In multiverse theory, in nonlocal consciousness models, in certain perennial philosophies, memory isn't just neurological. It's informational continuity across instances of self.
If all possible timelines exist simultaneously (many-worlds quantum interpretation), then a version of you where you're at Hogwarts already exists. You're not "creating" that reality. You're not "traveling" to it in a physical sense. You're aligning your awareness with a version of you that already exists there.
So "remembering" isn't literal memory in the brain sense. It's consciousness recognizing/accessing another instantiation of itself.
You can disagree with this framework. But mocking it with "dude what the fuck??" just reveals you don't even understand what's being claimed.
That's not skepticism. That's ignorance throwing a tantrum.
"DON'T LISTEN TO PEOPLE TELLING YOU YOU'RE DELUSIONAL"
And then you clutch your pearls about this line like it's "evil."
Of course shifters tell each other not to listen to people calling them delusional. Because people like you exist. People who know absolutely nothing about shifting, haven't experienced it, haven't studied consciousness theory, haven't read the philosophy, haven't engaged with the historical context - but are so fucking confident in dismissing it all as "crazy."
Clinical delusion has a specific definition: a fixed false belief not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence, typically symptomatic of mental illness.
Shifters:
Acknowledge we might be wrong (not fixed)
Constantly engage with criticism and refine our understanding (amenable to change)
Don't meet criteria for mental illness
Actively practice reality testing - we're better at distinguishing reality than most people precisely because we train for it
We do reality checks. We set intentions. We maintain awareness of what reality we're in. That's literally the opposite of delusion.
You know what's closer to "fixed false belief"? You confidently declaring shifting is impossible when you don't understand the metaphysics, haven't experienced it, can't disprove it, and refuse to engage with any evidence that challenges your assumptions.
Your certainty despite ignorance is closer to delusion than anything shifters are doing.
"IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT YOUR BULLSHIT IN MY FACE, I'M GOING TO CONFRONT YOU WITH REALITY"
No, babe. You came into OUR spaces. You admitted you "discovered" shifting - meaning you went looking for it. Nobody forced you to read shifting content. You chose to seek it out, got mad about what you found, and decided to play thought police.
We post in the anti-shifting tag because you won't stay out of ours. You invade our spaces, mock our practice, and then cry when we respond.
And you're not "confronting us with reality." You're confronting us with:
Your personal beliefs about consciousness (not proven)
Your limited understanding of metaphysics (embarrassingly shallow)
Your assumption that your experience is universal (it's not)
Your unwillingness to engage with actual arguments (intellectual laziness)
That's not reality. That's your opinion.
Here's actual reality:
Consciousness is not fully understood by science (hard problem remains unsolved)
Quantum many-worlds is a legitimate interpretation proposed by physicist Hugh Everett in 1957, still debated today
Subjective experience is real even without objective proof (love, pain, qualia all exist but can't be "proven" to others)
Lucid dreaming was dismissed as impossible until the 1970s when researchers developed tools to measure it - now it's accepted as real
Thousands of people report shifting experiences with remarkable consistency across cultures and communities
No one has definitively disproven shifting (it's currently unfalsifiable, just like many consciousness claims)
Your lack of understanding ≠ impossibility
WHO THE FUCK LET THIS CHILD SPEAK?
Let's be absolutely clear about what you just did:
You literally just started lucid dreaming. You're in week one, maybe week two of becoming aware in your dreams. You're basically a consciousness exploration infant. And you saw one thing you didn't understand (shifting), immediately decided it threatened your tiny worldview, and appointed yourself the arbiter of what's real.
The audacity is breathtaking.
You have no lived experience beyond beginner LD. You have no academic background in consciousness studies. You have no philosophical training. You haven't studied anthropology, you haven't read the history, you haven't engaged with the theories. You "dabble" in spirituality the way someone "dabbles" in French by learning "bonjour" and calling themselves bilingual.
And yet you're here, lecturing people who have:
Years of experience navigating altered states
Academic backgrounds in relevant fields
Deep study of philosophy, metaphysics, and consciousness theory
Actual shifted experiences that you've never had
You are not qualified. You are not an authority. You are not the voice of reason.
You're just loud.
You're a child screaming in a conversation between adults, demanding to be taken seriously because you learned one vocabulary word.
Sit the fuck down.
Learn something.
Do actual research.
Read Spinoza. Read Bergson. Read William James. Read the anthropological literature on altered states. Read the philosophy of mind debates. Read the actual neuroscience of lucid dreaming so you understand its limits. Read SOMETHING beyond your own assumptions.
Then - and only then - try again.
Because right now? The only thing you're debunking is your own credibility.
You're not confronting us with reality. You're confronting us with the exact dimensions of your ignorance.
And frankly? We're bored.
Come back when you've actually learned something. Until then, keep your half-assed, one-week-old consciousness exploration to yourself and stop embarrassing yourself in public.
Ok so first off, you made a lot of assumptions about me personally and none of them are accurate. You don't know what my spiritual journey was like, your asumptions were wrong but that's all I'm going to say because A, it's irrelevant and B, it's none of your damn business
Secondly, that's a lot of personal attacks there. I attacked ideas and you attacked me, which is kinda shitty there. I'll admit that my post was rude, and that I did not provide evidence for my claims, that's a fair criticism, but it does NOT mean that I don't have evidence.
Thirdly, YOUR evidence is very flawed.
1. Lucid dreaming
Lucid dreaming can be very vivid, have autonomous characters, and you can feel pain. You can also see, hear, taste, touch, and smell things. Lucid dreams and dreams in general can feel very real and I don't know where you got information saying otherwise because literally every source I've seen has said the exact opposite. There are also different levels of lucidity with different levels of control. So all those points about how shifting is a different experience are just like.. blatantly false.
As a side note I did not seek out shifting, it's cross posted in a lot of lucid dreaming spaces online. ALSO I've been working on lucid dreaming on and off again for arround six years, but I say just getting in to it because I only started trying consistently a couple months ago, so no, it has not been "two weeks" and you have no basis to assume that. Also the amount of time I personally have been doing something has no bearing on my ability to call bullshit on things.
Also with your "learning new information" point, studies say that shifters can not provide verifiable new information when tested. It can FEEL like it, because the human brain is good at making shit up, but it's not true.
You also confuse experiences with like.. objective reality a lot. If I took mushrooms the things I saw felt and heard would feel real, but that doesn't make them real. You can philosophically argue that there is no objective reality or whatever but I am never going to accept that premise because I think it's stupid. Someone who thinks there is no objective reality is probably also never going to accept my premise that there is objectively a reality so it's a moot point.
2. Many worlds interpretation
This whole argument is classic pseudoscience misinterpretations of quantum physics. The many worlds interpretation never says it's possible to shift between realities.
Even if Many Worlds did allow consciousness jumping, it still would not explain why you’d end up in copyrighted franchises invented in 1997.
Which is more likely?
You are literally transferring to a new branch of the universe where a teen wizard school exists
or
You are experiencing an extremely vivid dream?
3. Philosophy
Philosophy does not negate science. Yes there are things science can't explain and does not try to (ie the meaning of life, what morals are, etc) but the nature of reality and like.. what shit is and is not happening and why is absolutely science. Science not explaining something also doesn't mean it CANT explain something. We don't understand consciousness, that is true, but only because we haven't finished studying it.
That's an appeal to ignorance. Not understanding something doesn't make your explanation any more valid.
I like learning things so I might pick up those books just to see what other insane bullshit you guys are on but I really don't care enough at the moment
Also those ancient philosophies and spiritual practices are completely fucking different from like... going to Hogwarts so you can kiss Draco Malfoy or whatever other bullshit shifters do. I get that not all shifters are doing that but a lot are and it's easy to call stupid. It's low hanging fruit and I'm taking it because I don't actually care enough to find a better target. It's intellectually lazy on my part but I don't care at the moment.
Oh, so now we're deflecting with "you don't know me"? Interesting strategy.
Before I address your numbered points, let's establish a few things since you seem to have conveniently forgotten the context:
On assumptions about your spiritual practice:
You're mad I made assumptions about your spirituality based on your own words - "I recently got into lucid dreaming" and "I dabble in spirituality myself."
But here's the thing: You came into OUR spaces making massive assumptions about an entire practice you admitted you know nothing about. You didn't research it, you didn't experience it, you saw some posts and decided "this is evil, this is bullshit, these people are delusional."
So you can make sweeping universal claims about thousands of people's experiences, but I can't point out that your own words suggest limited depth in this area?
You don't get to weaponize "you don't know my journey" while simultaneously claiming authority over everyone else's experiences. Pick a lane.
And if your spiritual journey IS deep and serious, why describe it as "dabbling"? You chose that word. I responded to what you presented. If that's inaccurate, that's on you for misrepresenting yourself.
On tone and personal attacks:
I am not accustomed to being rude or aggressive in posts. What I did was match YOUR energy.
You opened with:
"fucking bullshit"
"complete fucking bullshit"
"this shit is fucking evil"
calling people delusional
claiming we're "disconnecting from reality"
Those aren't calm, rational critiques of ideas. Those are aggressive moral condemnations.
So when you came in hot, condescending, and absolutely certain despite doing zero research, I responded in kind while also providing actual arguments.
You attacked ideas? No. You attacked PEOPLE. You called us delusional, evil, harmful. I called out your lack of qualification and intellectual laziness - which you've now admitted to.
That's not the same thing.
If I had no arguments and just insulted you, that would be ad hominem. I had extensive arguments about philosophy, anthropology, neuroscience, phenomenology - AND I pointed out you're not qualified to make the claims you're making.
Both can be true simultaneously.
On "young people can't know things":
Let me be absolutely clear since you seem to be twisting this - and you said something along these lines in an answer you deleted:
I never said young people are incapable of wisdom, education, or bringing valuable perspectives.
What I said was: YOU, specifically, are a novice. Not because of your age, but because by your own admission:
You recently started being consistent with lucid dreaming
You "dabble" in spirituality
You did ZERO research on shifting before posting
You admit you're being "intellectually lazy"
You "don't care enough" to engage with actual complexity
"WHO THE FUCK LET THIS CHILD SPEAK" means: who let someone with no experience, no research, and admitted intellectual laziness speak as if they're an authority while people who've studied this for years exist?
It's about novice vs. experienced, not young vs. old.
You're trying to hide behind age as if that shields your arguments from criticism. It doesn't. Your claims get evaluated on their merit - and you've admitted they have no merit because you did no research.
Being young is not the problem. Being confidently wrong while admitting you're lazy is the problem.
I am not trying to convert you to believing shifting is real.
I genuinely do not care what you personally believe about the nature of these experiences. You can think it's all dreams, all brain chemistry, whatever. That's fine. You're allowed to hold that position.
What I care about is you making absolute claims - calling it evil, harmful, delusional - based on nothing. No research, no understanding, no engagement with the actual arguments.
Your belief ≠ universal reality.
Now let's get to your numbered points:
1. LUCID DREAMING
"Lucid dreaming can be very vivid, have autonomous characters, and you can feel pain."
I never said it couldn't.
What I said - and what research documents - is that lucid dreaming has specific parameters and limitations that shifters consistently report experiencing beyond.
You're conflating "dreams can feel vivid" with "therefore all vivid experiences are dreams." That's reductive.
Duration and Continuity
REM cycles limit LD duration. Even the longest documented LDs last minutes to maybe an hour of subjective time.
Shifters report experiences lasting subjective days, weeks, months with continuous narrative - waking up in the DR, going through complete days, sleeping there, waking up again the next day, with persistent memory and continuity across that entire timeline.
That's outside documented LD parameters. If you have studies showing LDs can maintain that extended continuity, provide them.
And before you say "but the brain can make time feel longer" - yes, time distortion happens in dreams. But the kind of extended, continuous, day-after-day narrative coherence shifters report is not documented in LD research. There's a difference between "this dream felt like it lasted forever" and "I experienced three consecutive weeks with sleep-wake cycles, consistent memory, and stable timeline progression."
Stability
LDs are notoriously unstable. Environments shift, physics break, things morph. This is well-documented - maintaining stability in an LD requires constant active effort and even then it's limited.
Shifters report stable, persistent environments with consistent rules that don't require reinforcement. You can leave a room, return hours later, and it's exactly as you left it. Geography stays consistent. Physics work reliably.
If you've been lucid dreaming for "six years," you know this. You know how much effort stability takes and how easily things slip. You know that dream environments don't maintain perfect consistency without active mental effort.
The Control Paradox
Here's where your argument collapses:
In an LD, it's YOUR dream. YOUR subconscious generating everything. You have varying control levels, but fundamentally, you have access to the control panel - you can train yourself to fly, summon people, change environments.
Shifters report lack of omnipotent control. You can't just will things into existence. People refuse you. Things surprise you in ways that contradict your expectations or desires. Events unfold that you didn't script and can't manipulate.
That's a fundamentally different phenomenological experience.
In an LD: You're the dreamer with varying control over your dream. In shifting reports: You're operating within rules you don't control, like any other person in that reality.
And I know you might say "well maybe you just THINK you don't have control but it's still your subconscious" - but that's an unfalsifiable claim. You're essentially saying "even when the experience differs from LD parameters in documented ways, I'm going to insist it's still LD because... I've decided it is." That's not skepticism, that's assuming your conclusion.
"Studies say shifters can't provide verifiable new information when tested"
Link them.
Show me the peer-reviewed studies specifically testing reality shifting where participants were asked to retrieve verifiable information and systematically failed.
And here's the fundamental issue you're missing: Shifting cannot currently be measured or explained by science because it's intrinsically tied to consciousness - and we cannot adequately measure or explain consciousness itself yet.
You can't demand scientific proof of an altered consciousness state when science hasn't solved the basic problem of how consciousness works in the first place. That's not a reasonable standard - that's dismissing something because it doesn't fit into a framework that isn't equipped to address it yet.
Science can't objectively verify LOVE. Can't objectively verify PAIN to someone who isn't experiencing it. Can't objectively verify what the color red FEELS like to you versus me. These are subjective experiences that are real as experiences even though they can't be externally verified or measured in the way you're demanding.
The Research Problem
And let's talk about the "studies" you're vaguely referencing. Most researchers who've looked at shifting:
Approached it with full confirmation bias - they saw TikTok teens talking about fictional realities and immediately wrote it off as maladaptive daydreaming or escapist fantasy without engaging with the actual phenomenological claims.
Only examined 2020-era shifting discourse - which was a MESS. The community in 2020 was nowhere near as philosophically developed or nuanced as it is now in 2025. Researchers looked at the most surface-level, cringe examples (yes, the Draco Malfoy stuff) and concluded that represented the entirety of the practice.
Didn't take it seriously from the start - they chalked it up to "Gen Z doing weird internet things" rather than actually examining the reported experiences, the cross-cultural parallels, the philosophical frameworks, or the consistency of phenomenological reports across different communities and time periods.
If researchers approach something assuming it's bullshit, guess what they're going to conclude? That's not science - that's bias confirmation dressed up as research.
Your "Six Years" Claim Exposes The Problem
You've been working on LD "on and off for around six years" but only "consistently a couple months ago."
So you've been inconsistently dabbling for six years, recently got serious, and you think that qualifies you to make absolute pronouncements about consciousness phenomena you've never experienced?
The timeline matters when you claim authority.
It's like someone who took sporadic piano lessons for six years, recently started daily practice, and now lectures concert pianists about technique. The sporadic experience doesn't actually translate to the expertise you're claiming.
Inconsistent practice ≠ deep understanding, especially when you admit you did zero research on the thing you're claiming to debunk.
2. MANY WORLDS INTERPRETATION
"This whole argument is classic pseudoscience misinterpretations of quantum physics."
Go back and read what I actually wrote.
I never claimed many-worlds PROVES shifting or that Hugh Everett said "yeah you can hop to Hogwarts."
What I said was: IF you accept certain philosophical frameworks about consciousness and reality, THEN shifting can be understood within those frameworks.
I presented many-worlds as a conditional philosophical model: IF many-worlds is approximately correct, AND IF consciousness is not strictly localized, THEN shifting could be understood as consciousness accessing different configurations.
The Key Point You're Missing About Philosophy
Spinoza, William James, Bergson - these philosophers didn't "explain shifting" and I never claimed they did. They weren't shifters. They didn't know about shifting. They lived centuries ago.
What they DID was develop metaphysical frameworks about consciousness and reality that shifters can use to interpret and understand their experiences.
That's literally what philosophy IS - developing conceptual frameworks to make sense of phenomena. We use Kant to think about ethics. We use Descartes to think about certainty. We use these thinkers as lenses, not as authorities who proved specific modern practices.
When shifters reference these philosophers, we're not saying "Spinoza proved shifting exists." We're saying "Spinoza's metaphysical framework - that consciousness and matter are attributes of one infinite substance - provides a lens through which shifting experiences can be understood and contextualized."
You can disagree with those frameworks. But dismissing them as "insane bullshit" when you haven't read them isn't a philosophical position - it's ignorance.
And look, it's fine if you don't want to read Spinoza or Bergson or James. You don't have to. But then don't make sweeping claims about whether shifting can fit into serious philosophical frameworks when you admittedly don't know what those frameworks are.
"Even if Many Worlds did allow consciousness jumping, it still would not explain why you'd end up in copyrighted franchises invented in 1997."
Here's where you reveal you completely ignored what I actually said.
I explicitly wrote:
"Calling these traditions 'proto-shifting' is a stretch, yes - they're not exactly the same thing."
I acknowledged that modern shifting to fictional realities is not identical to ancient spiritual practices. I said that directly. You flew right past it so you could pretend I claimed they're equivalent.
What I actually said was that shifting inscribes itself into the same perennial philosophical logic - that consciousness can access alternate states/configurations/realities, that subjective experience is valid, that reality might be more than material waking life. Not that Hogwarts literally = shamanic soul flight.
You're attacking a position I never held because you can't engage with my actual argument.
"Which is more likely?"
This appeals to Occam's Razor, but you're applying it through your unexamined metaphysical assumptions.
"More likely" depends entirely on your framework:
Materialist framework: Vivid dream is simpler.
Consciousness-first frameworks (idealism, panpsychism, filter theory): Consciousness accessing alternate configurations is not inherently more complex than brains perfectly simulating reality with full sensory detail, autonomous characters, and extended time coherence.
Many-worlds framework: If all timelines already exist (which is what many-worlds actually proposes), then accessing them isn't "creating" anything - it's alignment/tuning, which could be argued as simpler than brains generating perfect reality simulations.
You're assuming materialism is default truth and calling everything else "unlikely."
But materialism is a philosophical framework, not proven fact. You have metaphysical commitments like everyone else - you just don't recognize them as commitments because you think they're "obvious reality."
They're not. They're your assumptions. And that's fine - we all have them - but own that they're assumptions, not proven truths.
3. PHILOSOPHY
"Philosophy does not negate science."
Nobody said it did.
"But the nature of reality and like.. what shit is and is not happening and why is absolutely science."
No, that's metaphysics - the branch of philosophy dealing with the nature of reality, existence, causation, and being.
Science operates within metaphysical frameworks. Science assumes:
Objective external reality exists
Our senses/instruments can reliably access it
Patterns are discoverable and regular
Materialism/physicalism is approximately correct
Those are philosophical assumptions science rests on, not conclusions science proved. Science can't prove these assumptions using science - that would be circular. They're the foundation science is built on.
"We don't understand consciousness, that is true, but only because we haven't finished studying it."
This is a faith-based claim.
You're assuming consciousness will eventually be fully explainable in materialist terms despite:
Decades of intensive research with zero progress on the hard problem
No proposed mechanism for how subjective experience arises from physical matter
Prominent philosophers and neuroscientists (David Chalmers, Thomas Nagel, even some materialists) acknowledging this may be fundamentally unsolvable within materialist frameworks
You BELIEVE materialism will explain everything eventually. That's fine - you're allowed to have that faith. But don't pretend your belief is "rational fact" while calling other frameworks "stupid assumptions."
Your metaphysical commitments are showing.
"That's an appeal to ignorance."
No, you're making an appeal to future science - assuming that because science might explain something eventually, we should dismiss all other frameworks now and treat your preferred framework (materialism) as obviously correct.
I'm saying: Consciousness is currently unexplained. Science cannot currently measure or verify subjective consciousness experiences adequately. Multiple philosophical frameworks exist to address phenomena science can't yet touch. Dismissing subjective reports because they don't fit materialist assumptions isn't intellectually honest - it's philosophical dogmatism disguised as skepticism.
The fact that we can't scientifically measure shifting doesn't make it invalid - it makes it part of the broader category of consciousness phenomena that science isn't equipped to fully address yet. Just like we can't scientifically measure what red feels like to you, but that doesn't mean qualia don't exist.
"I might pick up those books just to see what other insane bullshit you guys are on but I really don't care enough at the moment"
And look, that's fine. You don't have to read philosophy if you don't want to. You don't have to engage with metaphysics or consciousness theory or any of it.
But then don't make absolute claims about practices grounded in those frameworks.
You're dismissing serious philosophical positions held by major thinkers across centuries without reading them while calling them "insane bullshit."
That's not skepticism. That's willful ignorance pretending to be rationality.
If you genuinely don't care enough to learn about the frameworks shifters use to understand their experiences, that's your choice. But then you also don't get to claim you've "debunked" shifting or that it's "just lucid dreaming" when you admittedly haven't engaged with the actual conceptual foundations.
"Ancient philosophies are completely fucking different from going to Hogwarts to kiss Draco Malfoy"
YES. I LITERALLY SAID THAT.
I explicitly acknowledged calling ancient practices "proto-shifting" is a stretch and they're not the same.
What I said was shifting inscribes itself into similar perennial logic about consciousness, alternate states, and reality being more than ordinary waking experience. The philosophical FRAMEWORK is similar (consciousness can access non-ordinary states, subjective experience is valid, reality is more than material appearance), not the specific practices or goals.
You ignored my nuanced position to attack "Hogwarts shifters."
"It's low hanging fruit and I'm taking it because I don't actually care enough to find a better target. It's intellectually lazy on my part but I don't care at the moment."
So you admit you're being intellectually lazy and targeting easy examples instead of engaging with actual complexity.
And yet you opened this entire thing claiming shifting is "fucking evil" and "harmful" and that you're "confronting people with reality."
Which is it?
Is shifting a serious harmful practice worth warning people about with moral urgency, or are you just picking easy targets for entertainment while admitting you're lazy and don't care?
You can't have it both ways. You can't claim something is dangerously evil AND ALSO admit you're too lazy to actually examine it beyond surface-level cringe examples.
On Harm - Let's Talk About It Honestly:
You want to invoke harm to justify your condemnation? Let's address it properly instead of using it as a rhetorical weapon:
Every spiritual or psychological practice has people who had negative experiences. Meditation can trigger depersonalization or trauma resurfacing. Therapy can retraumatize. Shadow work can destabilize people. Psychedelics can cause psychotic breaks. Religious practices can become obsessive and harmful.
Individual negative outcomes don't automatically make the entire practice "evil" or invalidate it for everyone.
You're targeting the most cringe examples (teens shifting to fictional realities) while ignoring the actual diversity and philosophical depth of the community. Yes, 2020 was messy. People jumped in without preparation or understanding, some creators pushed irresponsible methods, misinformation spread. That happened. That doesn't define everyone or invalidate the concept itself.
The shifting community HAS evolved. People call out harmful rhetoric. Toxic creators get held accountable. The discourse is more grounded and philosophically informed now than it was in 2020. Communities learn and improve - that's what healthy communities do.
But you wouldn't know any of that because you admittedly "don't care enough" to look deeper than the screenshots that made you mad.
Most harm comes from misunderstanding the practice itself - people taking metaphors literally, using extreme methods without proper grounding, following uninformed TikTok creators who had no idea what they were doing, treating shifting as pure escapism while ignoring their actual mental health needs, or approaching it with unrealistic expectations.
That's a lack of education and preparation problem, not proof the practice is inherently evil.
Acknowledging that harm can happen is important. Holding the community accountable for how information is shared is important. But using harm as a lazy excuse to dismiss the entire practice while admitting you're only looking at "low-hanging fruit" - that's not honest critique. That's weaponizing other people's struggles to support a conclusion you already decided on.
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED:
You made a confident post based on zero research.
You got called out with philosophy, anthropology, neuroscience, and phenomenological distinctions you didn't know existed.
Now you're backpedaling:
"Actually I've been doing this six years" (but inconsistently, only recently serious)
"I have evidence I just didn't share it" (still waiting)
"I don't care enough to engage properly" (then why post with such moral certainty?)
"I'm being intellectually lazy" (your exact words)
"You don't know my spiritual journey" (while making massive assumptions about ours)
This isn't intellectual humility. This is realizing you're outmatched and trying to save face by pretending you were never really trying.
FROM YOUR OWN ADMISSION:
You've now admitted you:
Provided no evidence initially
Are intellectually lazy
Target low-hanging fruit instead of actual complexity
Don't care enough for proper engagement
Haven't read philosophy you dismiss as "insane bullshit"
But you're still confident enough to call an entire practice "evil," "harmful," "delusional," "complete bullshit."
You positioned yourself as the voice of rationality "confronting people with reality," but you've admitted you:
Did no research
Are being lazy
Target easy examples instead of actual arguments
Don't care enough to engage properly
That's not rationality. That's arrogance covering ignorance.
YOUR ACTUAL OPTIONS:
Do the reading. Engage with the philosophy, anthropology, actual phenomenological research. Come back with substance. You don't HAVE to do this - but if you don't, then stop making absolute claims.
Admit you don't know enough to make the claims you made. Approach this with actual intellectual humility instead of condescending certainty based on nothing. Say "I don't understand this and I haven't researched it, so maybe I shouldn't be calling it evil."
Stop posting about it if you genuinely "don't care enough" - because right now you look like someone who cares very deeply but is upset they got called out and is trying to play it off as "I never cared anyway."
You wanted to "confront people with reality"?
This is me confronting YOU with the reality that:
You don't know what you're talking about (your admission)
You're intellectually lazy (your admission)
You provided no evidence (your admission)
You're targeting easy examples (your admission)
You still think you're right despite all of this
That's not rationality. That's not skepticism. That's ego protecting itself.
So pick one and commit. Either engage honestly or don't engage at all. But this "I'm right but also I don't care but also you're all delusional but also I'm being intellectually lazy but also shifting is evil" routine is intellectually incoherent.
If you come back with more substance, actual engagement with the arguments, and genuine curiosity instead of condescending certainty - great. We can have that conversation.
But if you come back with more "it's just dreams because I said so" while admitting you haven't done the reading and don't care enough to engage properly?
Then we're done here. Come back when you've actually learned something instead of just being loud.