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"this post is about AI artists" how is this anything less than a complete and total endorsement of AI art as a legitimate artform
do the anti-AI people reblogging this just not know anything about math? this is embarrassing
anyone who works with math uses calculators and computer modeling these tools are infinitely faster and more accurate than solving by hand
the statement "pressing buttons requires just as much mastery as solving an equation manually" is true. it is a Fact
I went to a math conference last week and a bunch of the research presentations culminated in "we have done all this work to find this system of differential equations that models something, now we have a computer solve it"
Reading comprehension test results: 0/10
Your interpretation comes from mixing up the meaning with "despite".
Better luck next time
Right, I agree that using a calculator doesn't make you a mathematician. What I'm saying is that many mathematicians use calculators and computers in their work, and this doesn't make them not mathematicians.
This means that if you're trying to argue that artists shouldn't use AI image generation tools, or that anything made with an AI image generator isn't art, analogizing artists to mathematicians and AI image generators to calculators doesn't really help your case. (Although I suppose it would work if you're just trying to argue that using an AI image generator doesn't inherently make you an artist.)
its not comparable for you to be like âWAIT!!! BUT SOME MATHEMATICIANS USE CALCULATORS.â like yes. and some use heroin. its like. not a requirement and ISNT what MAKES you a mathematician.
its the actual fucking ability to do the thing. if you cannot do art without AI you arent an artist. if you cant do math without a calculator you arent a mathematician.
i cannot make it simpler for you people
the point is, with mathematicians, a calculator is a key part of their toolkit. You learn math without a calculator, but then you graduate to using increasingly powerful tools to help you do the job.
Does that analogy apply to art? let's suppose i go to art school, i make several stunning pieces of traditional art. My peers agree my technique is flawless and my grasp of anatomy is unrivaled. Then I stop painting or drawing and just churn out midjourney prompts all day. As an artist, I understand what it would be like to paint all of those by hand, and I could do it, so using the AI is really just like using a calculator, right?? some artists use AI and some artists use heroin.
But like, obviously not! The practice and method of making a piece of art matters! The practice and method of distributing and simplifying one equation into another doesn't. Because art isn't the same as math!!
finally "if you can't do math without a calculator you aren't a mathematician" is... laughably out of step with actual mathematicians. There's a common joke that if you go to dinner with mathematicians, a non-mathematician has to figure out the tip, because no mathematicians remember how to take 20% of something anymore. More to the point, a lot of math involves things that would be impossible to compute by hand. a common mathematical method is the fourier transform. taking the fourier transform of a signal by hand is something that would be, sincerely, probably a month's work of arithmetic. nobody has ever once done a FFT by hand to prove they understand the method to be allowed to use a FFT library.
i recognize this is annoying of me. i recognize the goal is just to get a cheap dig in at generative ai shit and the smug twitter users who think they're the future of fine art or whatever. but like. mathematics is important to me. mathematicians are important to me as people. I don't think it's "deliberately missing the point" to be like "hey in ur haste to get easy dunks in i think you're misrepresenting a whole field of interesting creative people, AND accidentally making a really unproductive analogy". Again i get that it's just a dunk it's Not That Deep, I promise I do. but i hope this makes sense why it matters to some people.
