Okay. I’m going to address this only cause I still see thathe’s still not over it apparently with how he took to twitter thanking Nlex fans and how they are being grateful an obvious slam to KN’s for the week before. But fuck. Again this week with Robi and Bianca’s guesting? Dude really? I don’t get why it’s gotten so big for him, I don’t know what type of tweets he was reading but all I saw was just the typical simple oh “That’s it?” “Bitin” etc. Nothing super harsh or would make me think oh these fans are so ungrateful. And personally I watched the uncut version, I never watched what was aired on T.V. cause apparently it wasn’t worth it. I would think he can call fans ungrateful if he gave a GREAT show and that the fans were still unsatisfied. But here’s the problem with that. The show wasn’t that great and it was made bitin because there wasn’t much to pull out from it cause it was to me a poor guesting—professional wise. Like, dude, I enjoy seeing DJ and Vice talk like that and mess around, but that’s for behind the camera. This is a guesting no matter how close you guys are it should be kept professional and actually get a decent interview out of it. Which is a big reason why I felt that Vice shouldn’t have reacted the way he did. I would want to say he should have done his job better that night cause obviously if it was bitin it was cause he didn’t supply enough on his part as a host. And for me, I don’t find it ‘bitin’ cause there wasn’t enough kilig. I found it bitin cause where we could have gotten some good questions asked with answers followed, we kind of got nothing. But I can’t say that Vice should have done his job better, only slightly I can say that in the sense that he was obviously biased and paid more focus to DJ. But the rest as far as not having much to air on T.V. was on DJ. This is no offense to DJ. Again I said that I enjoy watching his playful fighting with Vice cause normally we see him so reserved in interviews, it’s refreshing to see him comfortable and open but in this guesting there was too much of it going on that the result was we didn’t get a good interview.
I give it to Vice that there were moments he was indeed trying to get back on track and tried to get something good out of it but DJ was just not cooperating. Like when they were talking about Kath’s album, they were finally talking about something substantial and yet DJ interrupts and then it all just goes bleh again. I mean there were how many dull moments where it was so focused on DJ and Vice interacting while Kath and Dom were just there or Kath was just there. So I feel like instead of taking it to twitter calling out the fandom saying they’re being ungrateful, he should have talked to DJ saying that their next guesting to actually cooperate and not fool around as much so that they can get enough footage to air. Cause honestly that was the reason why there wasn’t much footage to air if you watch the uncut version. There’s that issue with not including the carrying scene shown in the teaser but I’m a person that watches the uncut versions anyways so that didn’t matter to me lol.
And I mentioned on Twitter how when the rest of the cast came out, when Vice asked Inigo about his work with KN, he didn’t even really listen to his answer nor gave a response back. It was like he answered and was just completely ignored. And the many moments Vice shared how proud he was but that was specifically only directed to DJ and not to the both of them. It’s like the more guestings they have on GGV the more bias Vice becomes. KathNIEL fan as solid KN's would call it. Their initial guestings you can see Vice notices and praises them equally. But as of lately it’s just been more DJ. I have nothing against it, I am amused by their growing friendship but when it comes to a guesting like that, suppress that and pay attention to all the guests equally-- professionalism remember. He paid attention to GaLor cause I mean, who wouldn’t? They’re veteran actors. But poor Inigo was barely noticed. I mean as a Kath fan I’m not trying to demand that he has to be close with Kath like he is with DJ, but just be equal in attention for guesting—cause again it is for a show it’s not a hang out behind cameras; Vice caught that himself that they’re just letting Kath sit there which I did appreciate that he actually took notice. That’s like interviewing Toni-Piolo before and only paying attention to Piolo or Coco-Sarah and only paying attention to Coco, etc. But honestly this guesting really did feel different in some way the only time I felt it was like the other times was when Kath and DJ were reenacting some scenes.
So to that I think he crossed the line when he was saying the fans were ungrateful, even more so when he stated it as if it’s the whole fandom. It’s unfair to include those that weren’t commenting about it. I mean does that mean he feels that way about those fans that took the time to actually be there at the show in the audience as well? It’s like you’re suppose to be the mature one, but you are handling it soooo poorly. Tita Min even apologized on behalf of the fans. Tita Karla lectured the fans and when CBY came out all was forgotten, at least that's what I thought, but not for him apparently. So Tita Karla, how about you lecture him on being mature about the situation and move on from it please? At this point it's not the fans being hot headed :P OH and if using the term 'bitin' was so damn offensive, imagine how offensive the use of 'terrorist' to describe fans. That right there seriously was him taking it wayyy too far. There are just those kind of crazed fans, but don't use the word terrorist as a joke to describe them.
OH and is it true that he’s saying he’ll forgive the fans if they make just as many BS for his MMFF movie with DJ? If it is, my gosh that just saddens me even more for him. I enjoyed watching GGV and him but after this whole poorly managed reaction I don’t even watch anymore. But yeah, if that’s true then I really hope Kath isn’t part of it even more now. Like I said, it doesn’t even need to be a MMFF entry, just give her a heavy drama movie with veteran actors or a JulKath or even better a Mara Clara cast reunion kind of movie. Movie with JLC or what, they were siblings in 24/7 in love so another movie where there interact not through webcam! Or another horror movie, cause even though she get scared she’s actually really good in that genre. I loved her Shake Rattle and Roll Story in 2011! But back to the irritation and disappointment, if that is true then the fans don’t need your forgiveness Vice. Some apologized, Tita Min apologized for them and if that’s not enough then fuck it. It’s not like you’re forgiveness is needed for the fandom and KN to continue to thrive. You win some you lose some. We just adored that you loved KN as much and was therefore made 'president'. But obviously time’s changed and you became biased; only thing that hasn’t changed that I noticed is at least you still get kilig over the two. You have to be happy for their success and not just think of your own. Just really disappointing to me. Again if that being the way he'll 'forgive' the fans is true. I only saw that on twitter and I didn't watch the episode nor check his social media accounts so I don't know if this is true; this is just my reaction if it is true.
I just wonder, if they are even going to still have a guesting for PSY LOL. Let alone if there still will be one how would be. Cause obviously with him still holding a grudge I’m sure he’d use that and bring it up again.
To me I see that Robi and Kris are the only ones that until now have truly admired and loved KN equally, unbiased. I appreciate that so much especially from Kris, seeing that she is like Vice, close to Karla, so it’s easy to think that like Vice she’d notice DJ more but she doesn’t she notices and praises Kath just as much. She is genuinely happy for the both of them and we saw that in their A&A interview. For KN fans, I’d suggest forget about making someone a president, VP, etc. Just keep it to Kath & DJ being your Kumander and Bossing
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Added after seeing that article regarding DJ about the issue.
Well this surely pissed me off on various aspects.
#1. Using the term bashing. Fans merely stated they felt ‘bitin’ on what was aired on T.V. Understand that it’s a late show and there are many fans that are young teens that of course have school the following day. So you can’t blame if they feel the need to complain that after staying up and waiting to watch and not be satisfied. This isn’t about being ungrateful and this isn’t about being hard to pleased. It’s simply as anyone would react had their idol guess and then it was short—initial reactions would be ‘that’s it?’ I get that reactions at times when I USED to watch his show. Doesn’t necessarily mean I’m complaining to the extent where it can be considered bashing. That certainly annoyed me. I’m no legit KN fan but fuck that article makes them sound messed up and Vice as the victim. Which hey, maybe we can consider it he was at first that night. But ever since then, what should have been done and over with is now still dragging all cause he’s holding a grudge – and that the fans should not have to suffer from. Technically at this point holding the grudge for almost 3 weeks now clearly coming back to it these past two episodes of his show, if you guys consider the normal complaining and use of the word 'bitin' as bashing, well fuck Vice is bashing the fans that much more with misusing strong words like 'ungrateful' and 'terrorists'. So how about you fucking make an article about that. He is a star but that doesn't make him God to where he's right and the fans are wrong and so he should be deemed as the victim while the fans are to be blamed once again. Fuck I'd believe it more and not be offended if they made him look like the victim if he hadn't been acting the way he did. But no, if you want sure those fans that tweeted about it were 'in the wrong' for doing so, but they apologized already. It's him who is holding the grudge and making it bigger than it has to be. At this point with how he's handling it, he's in the wrong about it now.
Cause some fucking did apologize right then and there that night and the day after. Tita Min apologized for them. They addressed it at the Cebu Presscon—what more does Vice want? Instead he choose to piss the fans more by obviously tweeting about how grateful Nlex fans were as a low blow to what happen with KN fans the previous week. What we thought had been over and done with cause we are all passed it and focusing on CBY he again hints his grudge in this past episode (I didn’t watch but that I saw that clip of him saying what he said and anyone in their right mind would know he was talking about KN fans about this stupid petty issue)
IF he is getting “bashed” NOW, not from that episode, but NOW, then that’s all his doing. He is the one holding the grudge and making it very public about it thus prolonging and pissing of the KNs even more. I myself am irritated over it as well cause it was seriously no fucking big deal. Hell the reaction to The Buzz interview with KN (not the live one with Kath) had more angry reactions than that GGV guesting did. Which I also believe that Mico took the wrong way but look he was over it :P. So for my opinion, if he’s getting bashed now by KN fans that’s actually his own doing. He was wrong to call out the WHOLE fandom and use the term ungrateful in response to the tweets some fans made. That right there was already uncalled for. For him to drag it on this long mentioning something regarding it each week in his episode/ tweets after is pathetic and juvenile. And what he doesn’ consider is that maybe these fans that reacted were young teenagers, something you just have to expect from them cause their maturity isn’t there yet. So instead of viewing it that way and being an ADULT about it and handling it maturely, he makes it like it was the whole damn fandom that was being that way. Very disappointing. I for one am one of the people that learned to like him and begin watching his show because of KN, but now after that I just lost interest. I haven’t watched GGV since.
But back to my point on that article.
#2 Ok, I agree in that DJ should apologize to Vice, not on behalf of the fans but in general for well messing around more than he should have which in turn cause them to not have been able to pull out as much footage to air. If he was cooperative and not messing around as much the interview would have ran more smoothly and would have had more footage to be able to air. Cause face it, watching the uncut version that is why they barely got any footage to air. He was simply messing around too much. And again, I am not hating on him for that, I usually am entertained, but it was too much this time around to be frank. I am use to them always hitting each other and what not, but don’t do it the whole guesting, it is indeed a guesting and not just hanging out. Just imagine if he did less of what he did in that guesting they would have had more footage and this whole thing probably would have been avoided.
That whole thing about not including the carrying thing they showed in the teaser? That’s nothing cause hello the uncut always gets uploaded. So if you focus in on the reason why the guesting was bitin it is basically that—not much footage could have been used cause well if you watched it you get what I mean. I have to express again that I’m not trying to bluntly say that this is DJ’s fault. Don't take it the wrong way. I am a Kath fan but this isn't me 'attacking' DJ and trying to put the blame on him. It's not like that. Just be honesting; reality check-- it could have been avoided had they had a decent interview to have enough footage to air. I'm saying that as not a fan but in the POV of any viewer that would watch that uncut episode. This in turn is why I’m very irritated how this backlash to the fans as being too much and hard to please. And I’m not trying to hammer Vice saying he didn’t do his job right, I saw he was trying but at times he did get carried away as well. It’s just DJ was messing around and kept interrupting when a decent conversation was happening. Hence, I do believe he should apologize to Vice not for the fans, but cause if he had been more cooperative in that guesting, they would have more footage to air. The reason why it was bitin wasn’t cause they show was holding out on the viewers its because there was nothing more to get out of the guesting unless you want to see some senseless interviewing. Professional wise, it wasn’t professional of DJ to have been acting too comfortable and loose in that guesting. I'm not saying any of this in a negative light towards him alright. Him being hyper like that is refreshing and cute but because of this whole issue growing I have to shed light on that.
#3. As far as fans needing to apologize to Vice, at this point I don’t believe the fans need to do that. Just cause they're fans they're the ones that need to apologize? No way. Don't belittle fans because like artists in that industry always say when thanking their fans-- if it weren't for their support they wouldn't be where they are. There's an extent to which fans need to apologize and you know give way for issues that sprout but in this case I believe the fans did enough for a 3 week old PETTY issue. Some of them apologized, immediately after. They talked about it in the Cebu presscon Tita Karla already gave her sermon on it, but at this point it’s not the KN’s that needs to do all the apologizing just cause they’re the fans. And it's not even about being hot headed easily. Just cause the fans felt the episode was bitin they're deemed as over reacting, easily hotheaded and ungrateful? No. That right there is wrong. And it's not like they were attacking the show or Vice himself. Just saying how it was, the guesting was short, so what? React if it was a lie jeez.
This is why you got to know all the details, know both sides before saying something. Tita Min made it short and simple, she apologized and she didn't feel the need to sermon the fans but instead shed light that when they watch the uncut version they'll understand why it was bitin. On point, straight to the point, not picking sides not saying who was right, who was wrong, just the mere facts for both sides to see, an apology on the behalf of the fans and a reason behind the bitin guesting for the fans to understand. Whoo praising Bernardo right now for that. Vice has been reacting pretty immaturely about it especially the fact that he’s still mentioning about it until now. So what every damn show you’re going to say something about it? There are some guesting I know were never even aired and plenty of times that I felt the guesting were bitin, but why react now and in such a huge way to when KN’s reaction. Just cause they reacted that way doesn’t mean they’ll stop watching your show. Although, I can’t say that now after what you’ve done. You dug your own grave with this one buddy.
I just really am upset for the fans because his big reaction is making it as if the KNs reacted soooo badly to that guesting. All I saw was ‘bitin’ and not in a super harsh offensive way. Just how anyone would normally use that word really. So I don’t know what the hell he’s going through to simply react that way. And that article, see the fans are being looked as they bashed him when that clearly was not the case. It’s unfair to all the fans cause it’s not as bad as he’s making it out to be and how the media (like that article) is going to make it out to be, and its most definitely unfair to those fans that were mum about all this commotion. I honestly feel at this point, KN’s shouldn’t apologize but if they were to just cause of DJ’s request to, that Vice needs to apologize in return for his actions. I don’t care how big of a star you are, but reality is you reacted poorly to this petty issue and you only dragged it on longer that it needed to be and for that you should apologize. They may be fans, but just cause you’re the famous one and they’re only the supporters does not mean that in an issue like this that only the fans are the ones that need to apologize.