I don't know if I've said this before but I feel like Regina should be allowed to swear like...once per episode. Just one little swear. As a treat.
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I don't know if I've said this before but I feel like Regina should be allowed to swear like...once per episode. Just one little swear. As a treat.
One thing Iâve noticed whenever people discuss the greatest redemption arcs in fiction is that the conversation almost always centres on male characters. Zuko from Avatar of course deserves the praise he gets. His redemption is one of the best ever written. It shows that redemption isnât a straight line and that people relapse as well as make mistakes, so have to actively choose to be better every day.
But I think we overlook female characters who have equally compelling journeys.
Take, Regina Mills from Once Upon a Time. She starts as one of the showâs most ruthless villains, yet her redemption isnât a simple switch from evil to good. She struggles with anger, grief, revenge, and self doubt. She falls back into old habits and loses peopleâs trust, which she has to earn back over years. Her story isnât about becoming perfectâŠitâs about choosing to keep trying despite her past. And her redemption lasts the whole show, from season 1/2-7.
And that is what makes both Regina and Zukoâs arcs so powerful to me. Neither character is redeemed because theyâre forgiven overnight. Redemption doesnât work like that. Theyâre redeemed because they consistently make better choices even when itâs difficult.
I think Regina deserves to be mentioned alongside characters like Zuko whenever we talk about the greatest redemption arcs in television. She proves that redemption isnât about erasing your past. It is about accepting it, taking responsibility for it and deciding that it wonât define your future.
"Delete this" "lalalala I don't hear anything" "I'm gonna throw up" "I wish I hadn't seen this"
Just some of the comments I have seen on clips from the latest podcast ep, in which Katie talks about watching the movie with her boyfriend. A boyfriend she seems pretty damn happy with.
I get that people love the idea of her being queer. And maybe she is. Dating a man doesn't rule out the possibility of her being bi. But this is a real human, with real feelings, not a fictional character.
If you're a real fan of hers, you should just be happy that our favourite Irish beauty is happy, and that we're fortunate enough that this notoriously private woman is letting us have these little tidbits about her personal life.
No one, and I mean no one, should be upset or complaining. She is happy.
Are we really having this much discourse over the simple matter of Katie McGrath having a boyfriend?
It's okay for people to have opinions. It's okay for people to make "nooo she's mine" style jokes.
I do think there are people who take it too far, and I've seen it before on this platform, because there are certain people who are so set on her being a lesbian that they struggle to cope with the idea of her dating a man. But hey, her dating a man doesn't mean she's not queer. One of my best friends is bi, but married to a man - that doesn't make her any less bi and she is routinely frustrated by people who think it does.
Honestly can we just be happy that Katie seems happy, whoever it's with, and go back to enjoying the fact that, thanks to this podcast, we're getting so much more Katie content than we used to? Rather than tearing metaphorical lumps out of each other because of who she is or isn't dating?
I want Once Upon A Time, but an HBO version
Ugh! My heart!
Happy Pride to all of the non-canon but heavily shipped/acknowledged queer ships out there that never sailed. We've never forgotten you.
What do you mean âchatâ is now referring to ChatGPT and not twitch chat? What? What? What the fuck? No?
When I address chat I am speaking to a presumed Greek chorus of real human people shitposting on their lunch break, not a machine that devours lakes to covert electricity into slop.
Why do OUAT fans feel bad for Sidney Glass of all characters, I wanna know. Every time someone mentions him, they seem to think Regina cursed him into the mirror, but that's literally not what happens. Regina didn't put him in the mirror, he wished himself there: it was the drawback of his wish to be with her forever, against her wishes! You could even see the horror in her eyes when she realized she was about to be unwillingly shackled to another man, only for karma to hit instantly.
He's also the ultimate fuck boy. Leopold freed him from prison, offered him his friendship, and Sidney murdered him because he coveted his wife. Like, don't get me wrong, Leopold deserved it - and Regina absolutely played Sidney into taking the blame. But Sidney still was 100% on board with killing his personal savior to get the girl, and when she turned him down, he tried to magically bind himself to her anyway. And succeeded! Just not the way he wanted.
Sidney sucks.
LANA PARRILLA as REGINA MILLS Once Upon A Time, âThe Stable Boyâ
Iâve been trying to figure out why Swan Queen always felt more real to me than Captain Swan, and I think it comes down to this:
Emma didnât just need someone who loved herâŠshe needed someone who understood her.
With Hook, it always felt like Emma was being loved for who she should be. The hero. The saviour. The âgoodâ person. And whenever she struggled or pulled away, it created tension like she wasnât meeting that version of herself. Even in big moments like the Dark Swan arc, his reaction came from hurt and anger rather than understanding. It felt like pressure for her to be someone, instead of space to just be herself.
But with Regina, it was completely different.
Regina understood Emmaâs darkness because she had lived it. She didnât expect Emma to be perfect or âgoodâ all the time. Regina saw all of her, and stayed anyway. Emma didnât have to explain herself in the same way. There was this unspoken understanding between them that just⊠existed.
And the show knew that. Emma literally says Regina is the one who understands her, even when she has Hook and her parents in her life.
When you look at their actions:
â Regina goes with Emma to find Lily
â Regina risks everything to save her in the Wish Realm
â Emma trusts Regina with the dagger and goes dark for her
That kind of trust doesnât come from romance being written inâŠit comes from a relationship being built. With Hook, a lot of it felt like we were told it was this epic love story. With Regina, we were shown a deep connection built over time.
So I donât think itâs really about âwhich ship is betterâ. For me itâs about emotional compatibility.
Emma and Regina felt like two people who truly saw each other. And once you notice that, itâs hard not to feel like that was the relationship that made the most sense.
You canât convince me that a lot of ouat fans arenât misogynistic when I keep seeing takes like, âyou canât dislike Hook because heâs Emmaâs true love.â
Why is the main female character being reduced to her boyfriend? Emma is the protagonist of the show, not an extension of Hook. I donât see Hook as her âtrue love,â especially when, (by the end), their relationship seems to diminish her character rather than strengthen it. She feels like a shell of who she used to be.
I feel a similar way about Regina and Robin as I never liked the soulmate narrative there either. But, at least you can say Robin contributed to Reginaâs growth. He supported her redemption arc instead of defining her. In comparison well, both Emma and Hook were stronger, more compelling characters when they were separate. Once the show started pushing them as the main couple, they lost what made them interesting.
Also, Hookâs introduction itself has misogynistic undertonesâŠlines like âI like a woman on her backâ set the tone for his character in a way that people tend to overlook.
And unlike Hook, Regina wasnât written as someone who could just exist and be liked. She had to earn her redemption (because she did worse things). She had depth, development, consequences. Hook, on the other hand, feels like heâs just there, mostly serving the role of Emmaâs boyfriend rather than contributing meaningfully to the story.
Even if someone believes Hook is Emmaâs true love, why does that mean I have to like him? That logic doesnât make sense.
At its core, OUAT is a female led show, especially through Emma and Regina. Reducing either of them to their romantic relationships weakens their storyâsâŠand honestly, that does come across as misogynistic.
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Swanqueen my og and dare I say gay awakening
saw this one twitter and its so real like why else would i be hereâŠ