Call me Bob

Hi

[khitzy-b0b]

This game is kinda fun

[khitzy-b0b]

I might be the ONLY person that ship this

[khitzy-b0b]

Has anyone uncover toon lore?

Like how a toon works or how they live or what they need to live?

They can't die or more so physically I assume but they still need food and drink

And if there's can be clones or different versions of them then where do all of them go?

Or are they all one once a toon or a versions of a toon is their redesign like for example oswald and his various redesigns

Are they part if him? or is that different versions of him and how will it work

DIP is still around, so there is killing the other versions and replacing them with making a new version of them

But then we get to mickey mouse who has to have met his other versions

Is mickey an exception?

Have other toons met their other versions? Or is that edited in after filming?

If the different versions are separate from others are do they keep the memories, or do they have their own?

Cartoons are really weird but they are meant to sometimes be unrealistic

My theory or take on this is, toons when redesigning go through a surgery kinda like plastic surgery, their type of surgery advances over time of course

The toon cautiousness probably from its brain, heart or its ink or whatever it's made out of

Each surgery is different or not even having surgery like making a new cartoon that pretends/replace to be the other one and the other toon version gets locked up in tubes or somewhere, possibly DIP them or reuse thr toon for more toon making materials

I always have a thought of toons, no matter how popular or human they are, will always be lower than humans

And humans don't care much for toons as they are toons are play things and money making, now some may get attached and would never harm them

But with corporate, it's a whole different story, treating toons just for money and to save money, they have to make toons lose their jobs (canceling the show) and possibly reuse those toons for materials for other shows or make them just homeless out of their business

[preciouslittletoonette]

Hello 👁👁 I like toon lore, and if you dont mind, I'd like to add to this.

So toon lore kinda differs on a studio-by-studio/creator-by-creator basis in that each one's treatment of toons. They do have similarities sometimes across studios, like toons being created by humans. And the base concepts are the same. Some have asked "what happens to toons who are forgotten?" And have given wildly different answers from each other in a way thats super interesting to me!

Like on the topic of "What happens to a toon who is forgotten?", Disney and Warner Bros gives wildly different answers.

For Warner Bros, when a toon is forgotten, what happens is that they begin to age, as shown in Tiny Toon Adventures episode 25: Fields of Honey

On the left, the old woman is a forgotten toon from the early 30s, on the right is her restored, original form once the audience sees her cartoons and remembers her.

For Disney, when a toon is forgotten, they lose their hearts (which is a physical representation of their remembrance and love from their audience) and fall into Wasteland, which is even by the meta treated as The Disney Afterlife

Both of these are reversible too. You can age backwards into your original design. You can get your heart back and leave Wasteland. However, to do that by yourself (especially with Disney's fate) is nigh impossible. Your fate is quite literally in someone else's hands, and those hands are more often than not, human

So now on the basis of "do several versions of a toon exist"? Yes, but again, its on a studio-by-studio basis.

Disney leans heavily on multiple versions of the same toon existing, especially with Mickey.

But he's not the only one of course. Epic Mickey also has several different versions of Pete coexisting simultaneously.

And the graphic novel has different versions of Horace Horsecollar (though I dont have a picture of that) and several Disney characters have scrapped versions of themselves who live in Wasteland like Mr Smee. So safe to say, Disney does make multiple versions of the same toon, and they all coexist and have different, individual lives. I have like a whole separate post on how toons have lives outside of their characters and how that affects them.

However, at Warner, its usually just the one toon thats a composite of different eras. So left Daffy and right Daffy...

...are the same Daffy.

Now the human-toon relationship is something that doesn't always get touched on, but when it does, half the time, its a racism allegory. This is very apparent in the Roger Rabbit franchise, both the book and the movie. The racism is extremely blatant in especially the book what with toons and humans seated in different areas of the bar, humans protesting toons moving into their neighbourhoods, having whole slurs for animal toons. The book is a wild ride. The movie isn't nearly as blatant but you can still tell its there if you know basic history of 20th Century USA. So there is that allergory, but I think it can be open to other allegories. Who Censored Roger Rabbit had a moment that felt to me like an echo of modern day transphobia and the constant debate of "Should transwomen be allowed to participate in cis women's sports?". So besides racial coding, there's possibilty for queer coding, disability coding and other kinds of coding and allegories.

I have the beginnings of an original toon story in my brain, different from my current AUs, that I would like to make into a book or a film one day that explores the other allegories, particularly Ableism and the relationship toons would have with black people, considering how intrinsically tied caricatures and blackface are to early cartoons. I feel like the two groups would have a lot of feelings about each other and I think about it a lot.

[shaydystheshadowqueen]

if I had a nickel for every time a film used animated animals as a allegory for race relationships and a dollar for when that movie is also about race relationships in hollywood i'd have 2 dollar and a nickel

I like Toonstruck's idea of dividing the cartoon world by their genre/feel: You had the baby-friendly kiddy cartoons where everything is nice and cute, the Looney Tunes Wacky Land with chaos and zero logic, and the generic evil area with the really nasty almost adult level cartoons

[khitzy-b0b]

I subscribed to think thinking

Like in mlp where it's divided between different species

Toon town could be like a big world wide map for all toons divided in different genres, statues (forgotten to popular), eras, animated types, companies, or could be all a mesh

Tho some or most toons may not live in toon town as they prefer (or can't due do some circumstances like being stuck in wasteland) to be in the real world like we see in that one chip and Dale rescue ranger movie

[khitzy-b0b]

[khitzy-b0b]

Family portrait

Made in watercolors

[khitzy-b0b]

Has anyone uncover toon lore?

Like how a toon works or how they live or what they need to live?

They can't die or more so physically I assume but they still need food and drink

And if there's can be clones or different versions of them then where do all of them go?

Or are they all one once a toon or a versions of a toon is their redesign like for example oswald and his various redesigns

Are they part if him? or is that different versions of him and how will it work

DIP is still around, so there is killing the other versions and replacing them with making a new version of them

But then we get to mickey mouse who has to have met his other versions

Is mickey an exception?

Have other toons met their other versions? Or is that edited in after filming?

If the different versions are separate from others are do they keep the memories, or do they have their own?

Cartoons are really weird but they are meant to sometimes be unrealistic

My theory or take on this is, toons when redesigning go through a surgery kinda like plastic surgery, their type of surgery advances over time of course

The toon cautiousness probably from its brain, heart or its ink or whatever it's made out of

Each surgery is different or not even having surgery like making a new cartoon that pretends/replace to be the other one and the other toon version gets locked up in tubes or somewhere, possibly DIP them or reuse thr toon for more toon making materials

I always have a thought of toons, no matter how popular or human they are, will always be lower than humans

And humans don't care much for toons as they are toons are play things and money making, now some may get attached and would never harm them

But with corporate, it's a whole different story, treating toons just for money and to save money, they have to make toons lose their jobs (canceling the show) and possibly reuse those toons for materials for other shows or make them just homeless out of their business

[preciouslittletoonette]

Hello 👁👁 I like toon lore, and if you dont mind, I'd like to add to this.

So toon lore kinda differs on a studio-by-studio/creator-by-creator basis in that each one's treatment of toons. They do have similarities sometimes across studios, like toons being created by humans. And the base concepts are the same. Some have asked "what happens to toons who are forgotten?" And have given wildly different answers from each other in a way thats super interesting to me!

Like on the topic of "What happens to a toon who is forgotten?", Disney and Warner Bros gives wildly different answers.

For Warner Bros, when a toon is forgotten, what happens is that they begin to age, as shown in Tiny Toon Adventures episode 25: Fields of Honey

On the left, the old woman is a forgotten toon from the early 30s, on the right is her restored, original form once the audience sees her cartoons and remembers her.

For Disney, when a toon is forgotten, they lose their hearts (which is a physical representation of their remembrance and love from their audience) and fall into Wasteland, which is even by the meta treated as The Disney Afterlife

Both of these are reversible too. You can age backwards into your original design. You can get your heart back and leave Wasteland. However, to do that by yourself (especially with Disney's fate) is nigh impossible. Your fate is quite literally in someone else's hands, and those hands are more often than not, human

So now on the basis of "do several versions of a toon exist"? Yes, but again, its on a studio-by-studio basis.

Disney leans heavily on multiple versions of the same toon existing, especially with Mickey.

But he's not the only one of course. Epic Mickey also has several different versions of Pete coexisting simultaneously.

And the graphic novel has different versions of Horace Horsecollar (though I dont have a picture of that) and several Disney characters have scrapped versions of themselves who live in Wasteland like Mr Smee. So safe to say, Disney does make multiple versions of the same toon, and they all coexist and have different, individual lives. I have like a whole separate post on how toons have lives outside of their characters and how that affects them.

However, at Warner, its usually just the one toon thats a composite of different eras. So left Daffy and right Daffy...

...are the same Daffy.

Now the human-toon relationship is something that doesn't always get touched on, but when it does, half the time, its a racism allegory. This is very apparent in the Roger Rabbit franchise, both the book and the movie. The racism is extremely blatant in especially the book what with toons and humans seated in different areas of the bar, humans protesting toons moving into their neighbourhoods, having whole slurs for animal toons. The book is a wild ride. The movie isn't nearly as blatant but you can still tell its there if you know basic history of 20th Century USA. So there is that allergory, but I think it can be open to other allegories. Who Censored Roger Rabbit had a moment that felt to me like an echo of modern day transphobia and the constant debate of "Should transwomen be allowed to participate in cis women's sports?". So besides racial coding, there's possibilty for queer coding, disability coding and other kinds of coding and allegories.

I have the beginnings of an original toon story in my brain, different from my current AUs, that I would like to make into a book or a film one day that explores the other allegories, particularly Ableism and the relationship toons would have with black people, considering how intrinsically tied caricatures and blackface are to early cartoons. I feel like the two groups would have a lot of feelings about each other and I think about it a lot.

[khitzy-b0b]

me reading this:

[toonedoutandin]

I think the only real toon lore I’ve written is the concept of a void, where all forgotten toons spend their time in until the universe/plot figures out where to put them.

[khitzy-b0b]

I do have a concept like that but instead of a void, it's a whole area the toons made for themselves

This more so for 1910-1930s toons but there can be other areas like this with different time eras (is also part of the AU I have)

I imagine them to be located in the far corners of toon town

[khitzy-b0b]

Has anyone uncover toon lore?

Like how a toon works or how they live or what they need to live?

They can't die or more so physically I assume but they still need food and drink

And if there's can be clones or different versions of them then where do all of them go?

Or are they all one once a toon or a versions of a toon is their redesign like for example oswald and his various redesigns

Are they part if him? or is that different versions of him and how will it work

DIP is still around, so there is killing the other versions and replacing them with making a new version of them

But then we get to mickey mouse who has to have met his other versions

Is mickey an exception?

Have other toons met their other versions? Or is that edited in after filming?

If the different versions are separate from others are do they keep the memories, or do they have their own?

Cartoons are really weird but they are meant to sometimes be unrealistic

My theory or take on this is, toons when redesigning go through a surgery kinda like plastic surgery, their type of surgery advances over time of course

The toon cautiousness probably from its brain, heart or its ink or whatever it's made out of

Each surgery is different or not even having surgery like making a new cartoon that pretends/replace to be the other one and the other toon version gets locked up in tubes or somewhere, possibly DIP them or reuse thr toon for more toon making materials

I always have a thought of toons, no matter how popular or human they are, will always be lower than humans

And humans don't care much for toons as they are toons are play things and money making, now some may get attached and would never harm them

But with corporate, it's a whole different story, treating toons just for money and to save money, they have to make toons lose their jobs (canceling the show) and possibly reuse those toons for materials for other shows or make them just homeless out of their business

[preciouslittletoonette]

Hello 👁👁 I like toon lore, and if you dont mind, I'd like to add to this.

So toon lore kinda differs on a studio-by-studio/creator-by-creator basis in that each one's treatment of toons. They do have similarities sometimes across studios, like toons being created by humans. And the base concepts are the same. Some have asked "what happens to toons who are forgotten?" And have given wildly different answers from each other in a way thats super interesting to me!

Like on the topic of "What happens to a toon who is forgotten?", Disney and Warner Bros gives wildly different answers.

For Warner Bros, when a toon is forgotten, what happens is that they begin to age, as shown in Tiny Toon Adventures episode 25: Fields of Honey

On the left, the old woman is a forgotten toon from the early 30s, on the right is her restored, original form once the audience sees her cartoons and remembers her.

For Disney, when a toon is forgotten, they lose their hearts (which is a physical representation of their remembrance and love from their audience) and fall into Wasteland, which is even by the meta treated as The Disney Afterlife

Both of these are reversible too. You can age backwards into your original design. You can get your heart back and leave Wasteland. However, to do that by yourself (especially with Disney's fate) is nigh impossible. Your fate is quite literally in someone else's hands, and those hands are more often than not, human

So now on the basis of "do several versions of a toon exist"? Yes, but again, its on a studio-by-studio basis.

Disney leans heavily on multiple versions of the same toon existing, especially with Mickey.

But he's not the only one of course. Epic Mickey also has several different versions of Pete coexisting simultaneously.

And the graphic novel has different versions of Horace Horsecollar (though I dont have a picture of that) and several Disney characters have scrapped versions of themselves who live in Wasteland like Mr Smee. So safe to say, Disney does make multiple versions of the same toon, and they all coexist and have different, individual lives. I have like a whole separate post on how toons have lives outside of their characters and how that affects them.

However, at Warner, its usually just the one toon thats a composite of different eras. So left Daffy and right Daffy...

...are the same Daffy.

Now the human-toon relationship is something that doesn't always get touched on, but when it does, half the time, its a racism allegory. This is very apparent in the Roger Rabbit franchise, both the book and the movie. The racism is extremely blatant in especially the book what with toons and humans seated in different areas of the bar, humans protesting toons moving into their neighbourhoods, having whole slurs for animal toons. The book is a wild ride. The movie isn't nearly as blatant but you can still tell its there if you know basic history of 20th Century USA. So there is that allergory, but I think it can be open to other allegories. Who Censored Roger Rabbit had a moment that felt to me like an echo of modern day transphobia and the constant debate of "Should transwomen be allowed to participate in cis women's sports?". So besides racial coding, there's possibilty for queer coding, disability coding and other kinds of coding and allegories.

I have the beginnings of an original toon story in my brain, different from my current AUs, that I would like to make into a book or a film one day that explores the other allegories, particularly Ableism and the relationship toons would have with black people, considering how intrinsically tied caricatures and blackface are to early cartoons. I feel like the two groups would have a lot of feelings about each other and I think about it a lot.

[khitzy-b0b]

me reading this:

[khitzy-b0b]

Has anyone uncover toon lore?

Like how a toon works or how they live or what they need to live?

They can't die or more so physically I assume but they still need food and drink

And if there's can be clones or different versions of them then where do all of them go?

Or are they all one once a toon or a versions of a toon is their redesign like for example oswald and his various redesigns

Are they part if him? or is that different versions of him and how will it work

DIP is still around, so there is killing the other versions and replacing them with making a new version of them

But then we get to mickey mouse who has to have met his other versions

Is mickey an exception?

Have other toons met their other versions? Or is that edited in after filming?

If the different versions are separate from others are do they keep the memories, or do they have their own?

Cartoons are really weird but they are meant to sometimes be unrealistic

My theory or take on this is, toons when redesigning go through a surgery kinda like plastic surgery, their type of surgery advances over time of course

The toon cautiousness probably from its brain, heart or its ink or whatever it's made out of

Each surgery is different or not even having surgery like making a new cartoon that pretends/replace to be the other one and the other toon version gets locked up in tubes or somewhere, possibly DIP them or reuse thr toon for more toon making materials

I always have a thought of toons, no matter how popular or human they are, will always be lower than humans

And humans don't care much for toons as they are toons are play things and money making, now some may get attached and would never harm them

But with corporate, it's a whole different story, treating toons just for money and to save money, they have to make toons lose their jobs (canceling the show) and possibly reuse those toons for materials for other shows or make them just homeless out of their business

[khitzy-b0b]

Another au me and my friend @redyzatearthquake made is call

Ahem

HERO AU

Self explanatory

[khitzy-b0b]

Art dump :p

[khitzy-b0b]

As we wait

Juls got some company

[khitzy-b0b]

*ACTIVELY WRITING THE WHOLE STORY [PT 1] OF FELIX IN DISNEYLAND*

this will take a long time, but I'll try keeping it not too long and readable

[khitzy-b0b]

Honorable mentions

Basically, giving spoilers to the story

[khitzy-b0b]

Story time:

Felix in Disneyland

(I'll try giving as much detail and a short summary of the story, it's not gonna that short tho)

[INTRO]

So in the beginning

Toons are created to entertain and uplift people

Many early toons (1910s) were figuring themselves out really full fill their purpose doing what they made for

Then felix came along later caught the eyes of everyone with how entertaining and until he was, so successful that a type of animation was popularized, RUBBERHOSE

Felix brought entertainment with clever gags that no toons ever done and some try to emulate thanks to pat Sullivan and Otto Messmer. Until Walt Disney and Ub shown their first sound cartoon Mickey mouse

Mickey got the attention of many people and throw off felix out of popularity.

Of course when the mouse gets more love from the people, felix then gets overshadowed and died off, felix of couse was not happy, he was frustrated that some toon took his popular as a human's love means so much to a toon

Overtime as mickey grew popularity felix fell more more into a obscurity, looking for some way to gain popularity or atleast a show again after pat Sullivan gave up on him and Otto not sure what to do with felix

There were attempts making back on back to the eyes of people, but only getting a few or more attention each time within each shows but nothing could get him back to where he was in the 1920s

But while he figure that America wasn't a place for him as he seems to be more knows in Japan, and with that desperation, felix took his everything he loves and zoomed to Japan where he could feel all the love he so desperately desires

And that's where the story begins, many years later

(Imma end it off here for now and post another blog about the story, told you it wasn't long but this is just the background)

[khitzy-b0b]

I'm not sure I'm going the wrong thing doing this

But I wanna share

So the introduction card for the characters in Felix in Disneyland

I did add a secret detail to only flip and you have to change the contrast for it

This is what it looks like

[khitzy-b0b]

Pt 4 of Felix in Disneyland concert art

This is the last batch unless I find other drawings that I haven't taken yet

Also if you were wondering, the fox guy is the same guy as the fox in one good turn in the felix the cat films, for me I called him cody the fox

Uhh I added willie here since he is part of this story but I don't have art relating to the story...unless

[khitzy-b0b]

Pt 3 of Felix in Disneyland concert art

May or may not have disturbing images

I hate how ugly mickey is in the 5th photo

You notice some horror here...and cartoon cat

The thing I can say about that is that I like having a dark scene, it more prominent in the second squeal which has cartoon cat in it...which I have a reason for

A old hc that oscar (Julius' son) got corrupted and turned into what we know as cartoon cat, experienced and caused by flip