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[150714] A Really Feel Good Xiumin Sighting

Pann: 진짜 훈훈한 시우민 카페목격담? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Translated by Elly

t/n: You can see the original image here

And just like that, Xiumin made yet another muggle into his fan… ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

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jenofersbawdy

stardom is the worst: part 2

hi so hopefully you read my friend sasha’s post about why stardom is the worst and if u haven’t please do i’m just here to add onto why stardom is the worst from another fan in korea’s perspective with the more minute details of their shitty management regarding td and hell i’ll throw in evol and amazing ability to destroy all their own opportunities! incredible

stardom has always been a shithole, we knew that from the block b incident, but actually most of td has been around since before that time and were already locked into this hell, and probably had some dreams still that everything would still actually be okay because you have to have /something/ to hold onto after you sit through all of that

the stardom philosophy is: we have only one plan if that doesn’t work then fuck them i guess! for topp dogg you can see they thought they were going to promote like crazy for one year, hit the big time, and go on tour. and even though they don’t have enough fans for this, they decided they were going to continue with the tour and pretend they had enough fans to do it anyway. instead of doing the smart thing and just promoting in korea and trying to gain more of a fanbase, while not losing their loyal korean fans (which actually are now leaving, girls that had been around since the debut times). these concerts that they basically did for fucking free (there’s the tea!!! no money here!!) have not only gotten them zero money, but they’ve also destroyed topp dogg’s korean fanbase in the meantime while their intl fandom loses all interest as well!

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let met explain how important korean fanbase is: people in korea, especially fansites, are the main bank of the entire operation. fansites closing because they can’t wait for the boys anymore, and some have none left actually, means that casuals have left way easier. in the fall at least fansigns were mostly filled up, i think now they would be struggling for even 75 and that’s if they switched off this dream of lottery. stardom has basically given up on the boys because their original plan didn’t work, and instead of adapting and trying to build popularity they said no, let’s just watch everything fall apart. at least before they were managing to maybe break even, now they’re losing money hand over foot but somehow everything continues to run which is the shadiest part of all of it. and the members having plastic surgery in the midst of all of this, hansol’s gypsy veil wasn’t fooling anyone here, was the weirdest thing. there is something seriously wrong with stardom and if you aren’t seeing it look at the numerous examples in these posts.

and this is exactly what they did to evol, because say has /literally/ left the group and they are all just stuck there with the remainder of their contracts it seems. stardom doesn’t do anything with them and they’re just as stuck as topp dogg seems like they will be, with no comebacks or promotions and stardom doesn’t even put the effort forth to have either of them performing at events anymore. the last topp dogg event was on may 30th, and it is /july/. no other group is this inactive, they had literally 4 schedules since they got back from brazil in feb.

speaking of brazil and bad world tour ideas, they pretty much funded this by selling off the boys. even though annie promotions were over, they suddenly started up fansigns with the dog bone that you could win a date with the boy of your choosing through raffle of how many albums you bought, and you bet your ass this is the only way they were selling out those fansigns.

cho pd runs his mouth all the time and media plays everything so that everyone in the entertainment business hates stardom. what few opportunities topp dogg would have to get out of ‘nugu’dom are already ruined before they begin. for the one time td managed to get on inkigayo during annie promotions, they had to open the show (which is rock bottom nuguness, opening for groups that debuted over a year after you) while us the fans were let in last, had to stand, and actually didn’t get in until after td had finished. going into makbang (the last week) of promotions, no one at stardom actually announced it was makbang until yano tweeted it would be after the show. this week was horrible, but it culminated in that there was supposed to be a fanmeeting that saturday, the same day as their trainwreck of a first concert that sasha talked about, and in order to go to the fanmeeting you had to sign up for music core and if you didn’t go you would get a penalty. THe problem was, music core ended an hour before the concert started, and the venue was an hour and a half away, so everyone was shitting and pissing about being able to get a good seat for the fanmeeting but not having to go to mucore and miss the concert. then on the morning of, they cancelled the fanmeeting, never rescheduled, and then went on with typical stardom stupidity.

let me talk about the members too because stardom is beyond shady about all of this. first, seogoong. he left in august after abruptly leaving halfway through a fansign for another ‘schedule’ and essentially never came back. he was weird as fuck that day too, really not focused and out of it and i was confused but i didn’t expect it to turn out like it did. stardom is the worst because they will lie through their teeth about everything, and the seogoong situation is just one. first he hurt his leg practicing, next he had a cold, and then there was just no explanation given! and then they straight up lied about it saying there would be /13/ members in the japan concert, and then basically a few days before decided to take it all back. there has been so much mystery shrouding the seogoong situation, so i am not going to make any guesses on what it is rn, but i’m friends with his last fansite and she sees him sometimes going to the company and just told me that he has lost an asston of weight and changed his hair but….nothing updated on the front of what the fuck is he doing and where is he. he is close with the group though, he and sangdo were literally best friends.

on the topic of sangdo too, he fucked up his leg in january (no real explanation on that one) and actually still hasn’t recovered from that. every time i saw them over the spring, he would still limp the choreo and cut bits of it to be easier on his leg. this is literally almost 6 months after the fact, and something is still wrong with it but no one is really noticing or saying anything.

also kidoh, who was literally hoodwinked into stardom with the solo clause of his contract. (just want to say this is how they got gohn too! promising solos that they fund with twenty dollars and a piece of string with the most half assed promos you would ever see) which he didn’t even get to do how he wanted, because he told me he wanted still alive to be the title but the company wouldn’t let him do it. and now he’s thin as a rail and won’t show his face ever, which i think is because he realizes his dreams are dead and he’s stuck at /stardom/ and can’t do anything about it, and is literally self destructing himself in the process. we talked about his weight once and he told me that he knows he has issues with forgetting meals but that he promises to eat more and well here we are now.

NOW topp dogg will go to europe to play at empty theaters it seems, and i honestly don’t know what they’re going to do about this or how the fuck stardom plans on doing any of this and yet they are somehow still making money. i love these boys with all my heart and i fucking hate watching them die like this while stardom twiddles their thumbs and thinks about their next failure of an investment. so yeah, just thought i would add my two cents to all of this. the boys are still sweet and were smiling last time i saw them right before i left but….this is just terrible and also i’m genuinely worried about kidoh. also fuck you mino because i know me some hip hop and disses but that was a cheapass shot to aim at somewhere where you know how much it sucks and how you can’t do anything but i bet it’s real easy to do now and aim at these ‘nugus’ now that you have an asston of fans and more than 3 pennies and a piece of string to your name.

#toppdog #bns #brand new stardom #stardom

abeautifulfish

stardom is the worst

hello i used to be a topp dogg fan in korea and i have a lot of sources for information, i don’t want to out ppl who helped me or stuff i overheard but if u use ur mind i’m sure u can put it all together yourselves.

im just really sick of stardom’s shit. this really is maybe the worst ent company in korea and because td members are stuck there they dont get an opportunity to showcase themselves, they’re constantly stuck with the “nugu” label and i guess watching yano and kidoh be not only swept away but spat on by former stardom trash themselves i have had it up to here with their shit. yes it is worse than you think it is, even if you already think its bad. i tried to highlight the real red flags instead of just the general side eyeish nugu fare like pimping the members out on dates with fans and seogoong and the whole under dogg thing so yea those also happened but the things im gonna talk about are like driving down the wrong side of the highway concerns that truthfully scare me

i was inspired to write this not just by mino on smtm, former stardom trash who now seems to think he’s better than people stuck behind the bullet he dodged so shoutout to mino…u piece of shit… , i was also inspired by the ticket sales for their european tour leg which is in dire straits. i am so sorry if this hurts their fans or hurts the boys although it really shouldn’t, i hope exposing how shitty stardom is panders for sympathy and ends up helping them. no one from stardom is explaining anything to anyone so maybe its time for me to share what i know..

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first of all, topp dogg doesn’t make any money for stardom at all. what little they make from appearance contracts (wapop, those small little festivals for random things like “the (food/hobby/nature item) festival” and usually have one common sponsor who deals with getting artists to show up) and fansigns (see below) cannot possibly cover the cost of an entire company who has put all their eggs in this basket and has nothing else to make them money. i honestly don’t know how stardom employees are being paid salaries at this point if they are, topp dogg themselves sure aren’t.

failed lottery fansigns: lets start with this which isnt exactly hurting stardom but sets the mood for what kind of company they are. usually groups from small companies with small followings start off with first come first serve fansigns. through that system you only buy one album and as long as you’re in the first 100 or so to buy that day from the time the buying period starts, you’re in the fansign. when groups get more popular they often switch to lottery if they feel like they can sell more than the 100 or so albums, which encourages people to obviously buy more albums and that earns the company more money. but in the beginning fansigns are usually made easier to get into so as not to discourage a fanbase that isnt fully loyal to a group yet and maybe won’t buy for a group unless there’s a guarantee they get in. stardom is of course the exception and topp dogg has always been lottery from the very first fansign. if you wanted to get into a topp dogg fansign for sure you had to buy more than one album, even though most fansigns even now have less than 100 participants overall. that’s because stardom is all about smoke and mirrors, trying to make people think there’s more demand for topp dogg than really is. ofc you could always buy only one album anyway but if more than 100 people buy then no one is guaranteed and if you need to get in every time, eg fansite, you’re forced into overbuying and therefore giving stardom more money.

failed first concert: keeping in line with stardoms smoke and mirrors tactics, in november they announced topp dogg’s first concert which they are nowhere near popular enough for, and japanese fans could pay to get a separate tour package which came with an exclusive fanmeeting just for them. they tried to put it in a venue where artists like vixx and bangtan have concerts….lol. and then after we all bought tickets they cancelled it and rescheduled it to another venue because obviously you can’t sell 100 tickets to a 3000 seater arena and expect to cover your costs at all. they moved the venue to an art hall the size of a movie theater, selling the tickets for 80 dollars a pop and they struggled to sell more than 150 tickets. i think i literally saw every stardom staff i’ve ever seen in the back seats trying desperately to fill them. we’ve all seen what first kpop concerts look like and this was an embarrassment. the venue was the type of stage that has red curtains on the sides of it, there were technical problems and that exclusive fanmeeting the japanese fans were supposed to get? i figured out what that i was sitting in it when “topp dogg 1st fanmeeting” was displayed on the back led screen in japanese writing only during every ment. not only did japanese fans get ripped off for paying 3 times as much for the same thing we got but it was a joke and your first concert as an idol is like your virginity, you cant get that moment back once its gone and it’s all because of stardom’s earth shattering levels of out of touchness that this happened. why did anyone green light this tremendous embarrassment and waste of money at stardom? because stardom thought that a first concert might trick people into thinking topp dogg is cool, established and popular. smoke and mirrors

edit: ok somewhere i got my wires crossed and it wasn’t jazzygroup who brought evol to malaysia for their mall tour but i must have thought so bc part of the initial press release for td’s showcase in msia was “since evol came, now topp dogg” but yes i’m sorry for my factual error, i don’t feel like it changes anything but there u go

failed world tour: stardom’s plans for topp dogg to go international took off when evol came back from the dead and signed a contract with jazzygroup to visit malaysia to literally sing on those event stages in shopping malls while people walk by for no pay. jazzygroup liked the idea of reaping 100% of the profits and not having to pay the artist so they met with stardom again who convinced jazzygroup to sign a contract for topp dogg to bring them to malaysia, america, and europe for showcases. topp dogg wasn’t and isn’t actually being paid for these showcases btw, something to think abt if u went to their malaysia or america showcases, since if jazzygroup had to pay topp dogg they would actually lose money. stardom began to shop around other countries as well to try to bring topp dogg there. as usual, stardom jumped the gun before plans were gelled and put out a sponsored article in the news that topp dogg had a world tour planned for the first part of 2015 and they would go to japan in january, americas in february, asia in march, and europe in april. stardom has to pay to put articles in the news because nogaf otherwise but the upside is that you get to write your own article about yourself. obviously those weren’t concrete plans and they fell through real fast because initially, stardom agreed for topp dogg to work for free, but suddenly stardom changed their mind about paying out of pocket to send topp dogg all over the world on their own dime, and no promoter in their right mind would agree to lose money trying to bring a nugu group no one knows into a big venue with a high overhead cost.

failed 2015: since stardom already had plans to book up 2015 with this fabled world tour they had no backup plan in place and when the world tour didn’t kick off as scheduled topp dogg proceeded to do absolutely nothing. they served out their haengsa contract with t-broad by doing exactly one appearance per month and stardom didn’t even try to slap together a comeback promotion in the meantime, probably because they’re running on financial vapors at this point due to living beyond their means for the entire past two years. the thing is, none of this had to happen. if stardom had never tried to spend all their money trying to convince people that topp dogg was popular (hint - no one was convinced) and instead just stayed in their lane then at least topp dogg would still have a career at this point, because they DID and DO have fans who care enough to show up.

kidoh: the last time i saw kidoh at a haengsa in dongdaemun he was acting really bizarre and he’s lost a shitload of weight. he’s putting out some weird bad trap music and pretty much self-destructing. kidoh used to be at big hit which is a nice place comparatively but was lured into stardom and topp dogg with the promise of a solo album written into his contract. i think they spent about 100 dollars on his solo album overall and clearly his solo career is probably not something stardom has any plans to ever re-visit. at least they actually did his solo album as they promised which probably actually cost the company money but then again what is making the company money…?

oh yeah, stardom is corrupt from head to toe, not only with their open financial corruption scandals over the years and the shiny new building they bought with the money that block b earned them. even the fan manager is corrupt amongst fans, i have heard she prefers certain fans over others and tells them insider knowledge over private sns and from the way she always treated me like shit i can’t say i don’t believe it. topp dogg staff instagrams are filled with givenchy and balmain clothing obviously more expensive than their humble office salary can afford. during the big break many of the members simultaneously got plastic surgery most likely at the company’s behest and dime. i know that people say “cho pd is rich” but no one is this rich and its not like he’s sold an album in a hot minute. there’s just so much corruption and shady dealings that i’m not sure if i even want to know where all this mystery money is coming from.

i really feel for topp dogg because of their situation. it’s worse than people think. people think that stardom is just inept and the truth is that stardom literally outright sabotaged their career. block b eventually became powerful enough to leave but topp dogg isn’t and probably will never be to the point where they can revolt and get out of stardom. at this point i even wonder if that was the idea all along.

#brand new stardom #bns #stardom #toppdog

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Dating with EXO & SNSD!

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taeilm

Why is xiumin turning into an asshole? I think I missed something, I haven't been keeping up with Exo but could you explain?

Lol uhh he used to be a LOT nicer, at least publicly? like the way he acts now especially towards baek is….. his personality took a 180˚ turn towards the end of overdose era/around that time when luhan left, idk. Also he laughed at yixing when the boy was struggling to read a korean question from the fans during that recent stardust interview, and what’s sad is that he wasn’t even it doing to make the viewers happy like chanbaek pretending to be bored, but was literally just…plain laughing at lay’s language difficulties :/ idk that’s just my take on it + i doubt he’s trying to be funny (like chanbaek) so i don’t know why he’s acting the way he is lmao i thought he’d be the last person to do that to lay after all they’ve been through

i guess you could say that he’s gained a massive amount of confidence since mama/wolf/growl era and i’m glad he has, really, and he deserves to be bc he’s a really amazing dancer/pretty good singer/has one hell of a body and is too often overshadowed by other members but…sometimes…he’s just??? i think a combination of chanbaek and kyungsoo is seriously rubbing off on him?? lmao whatever xiumin’s still chill af so :x he’s cool he’s cool

these are just my opinion btw so you can view it however you want o/ i just personally think he’s gotten meaner in some aspect

kokorosimzang

dude, like he really adores baek like REALLY ADORES HIM. lots of xiufans and oongyeos saw that esp we all saw baek’s hard works (pushed him into spotlights esp for his abs/saying how cute minseok is/how naughty minseok is and how baek teases minseok like most of the time].

like did u see how he let baek leaned his head on his shoulder on the recent sukira? and he really adores the dude for his wittiness - like exo showtime anyone?

i saw his laugh as he found xing is cute and endearing -well i can never read his mind so that was my take. i think xing is endearing and cute too and i laugh at his cuteness when he was reading the questions. tbh minseok should be one of the people who understands how difficult and struggling one can be when learning a language is,esp chinese. and xing’s korean is way much much MUCH BETTER than his chinese. who knows man,who does.

#well things is seen from their own biased opinion so...#tbh i think he was laughing coz he always think xing is cute like how he joked with xing in the sstp xiulay dj gig #but he is not perfect but saying he is mean?...like MEAN MEAN???...well idkman #please don't tag xiumin/minseok for your own personal thoughts #...tbh what am i doing rn reblogging this post #xiumin