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I know it is not a valid distinction to people on here and in the general public

That many csa perpetrators are not what would technically or clinically be considered pedophiles and their abuse is out of opportunity

And They would say child abusers are pedophiles and I totally agree w them

But if you are imploring, like I was.. kind of rhetorically, even tho I was using the wrong terms and concepts and I blame the anti pedo blogs I was reading bc it’s what they were saying and I assumed they were correct

If you are Imploring individual sexual deviants to stop doing whatever makes them think they are attracted to children

Bc they have to believe they are to know they need to stop

If they are doing anything that is attraction to children they need to stop

And you are telling them they need to take all precautions to stay away from children

Even if they successfully stop reproducing activity that is attraction to children they still need to stay away from them

that was all I wanted to say even if I used the wrong words bc I was just using what I saw on anti pedo blogs not knowing it was wrong

If you are saying that and establishing those requirements in the name of reducing child abuse (and harm to society)

Then ur not really addressing the child abuse that happens out of opportunity by ppl who are not considered attracted to children

I know that distinction isn’t valid on here and I don’t disagree w it so i wish I didn’t even bother mentioning it but I did mention that that article also says child abuse happens bc of opportunity (power position over the child) and alienation and only socialism can change that society wide condition

It was absolutely not saying that pedos or abusers have a place in socialist organization and I absolutely did not mean that and am really upset of being accused of saying pedos can change and other insane shit that isn’t anything I’ve ever thought or meant

That might not be about me bc i never said that but if she’s twisting the fact I said NO COLLECTIVISM FOR PEDOS while saying they should do this totally individual thing - stay away from kids and don’t reproduce their attraction to children

Admittedly I also said get treatment bc all the anti pedo shit I was seeing said they HAVE to be in treatment to be considered actually being proactive to be “non offending”

BUT IDC REALLY I’M NOT ATTACHED I WAS JUST SAYIN THAT BC I ASSUMED IT WAS WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE CORRECT

It was from Like one day of looking at anti pedo blogs and tags it was w little exposure to these discussions if treatment is a bad idea and I agree, after more thinking and research, that it is

Then idc that’s not the important part of anything I was saying and I really don’t think it was even worth mentioning

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“The role of opportunity in sexual offending against children

It is also important to recognise that not all child sex offenders feel driven or compelled to sexually abuse children. In fact, opportunity can play a key role in the commission of sexual offences against children. As Wortley and Smallbone (2006) argue, research has indicated that situational and environmental factors can play a key role in sexual offending against children. Smallbone and Wortley’s (2001) own research on child sex offenders found, for example:

a late onset of offending behaviour (37% were aged 31 to 40 years);

a low incidence of chronic sexual offending (less than one-quarter had previous convictions for sexual offences);

a high incidence of previous non-sexual offending (approximately 60% had convictions for non-sexual offences);

a low incidence of stranger abuse (94% abused their own child or a child they already knew);

a low incidence of networking among offenders (only about 8% had talked to other offenders);

a low incidence of child pornography use (approximately 10% had used child pornography); and

a low incidence of paraphilic interests (very small proportions could have been diagnosed with other sexually deviant interests such as voyeurism or sexual sadism; Wortley & Smallbone 2006).”

https://aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi429

What do you think about a high incidence of previous non sexual crime and late onset of offense? Does this sound like people in a high status in society ??? W control over their lives and behavior? Or people who are probably regressing in these respects?

I honestly don’t even think this is worth discussing and if I knew it would be so grossly distorted I wouldn’t have mentioned it on my blog No one reads but i just did bc I saw it and it reminded me of what I was thinking

About if they can stop reproducing whatever behavior makes them think they are attracted to children and I saw the anti pedo blogs saying they have to do that and I was like o I already was thinking that so I said it in tags just bc like If I knew it would be so distorted in such a gross way I can’t even begin To understand how or why she does that

Idk if the things she says ppl say are all like that or if that wasn’t abt me acknowledging I read in a socialist article that abuse including child abuse is a result of alienation and a position of power over children ie opportunity

And that isn’t reflected in telling individual pedos to take precautions not to abuse ie stay away from Kids

And stop reproducing the behavior which makes them attracted to children or whatever idk how to say what I was thinking and it was just a thought

I had had and thought they had a word for it but it’s wrong I’m sorry? It was the first day I saw those blogs

So articles like the socialist explanations of sexual violence say these are highly alienated disempowered individuals and I personally wonder if sexuality is a symptom of that but that’s not even worth talking about if people are going to have issues w understanding it and they will bc they don’t don’t actually ever read about sexuality from what I can tell

So I wonder if being highly sexualized in their abject state isn’t coincidental

this is the article I referred to in the tags When I was like ok there’s telling pedos to stay away from kids and stop being attracted to children

And stop doing anything that reproduces that “delusion” tho I wouldn’t say that now bc I see why people say that’s the wrong thing to say but I hadn’t seen anyone say anything about it yet then

And I am able to adjust my views/understanding to new info and that’s what I did as soon as I saw someone saying it’s wrong to use those kinds of words/ideas re pedophilia AND THATS FINE I AGREE

so when I say ok, pedos should stay away from children, not reproduce the behavior that makes them attracted to children, and not make a big deal of it ie shut up, and don’t look to collectivism either, THEN THERES THIS OTHER SHIT ABOUT ALIENATION AND CHILD ABUSE IN THIS ARTICLE WHICH NONE OF THIS ADDRESSES

what I am NOT doing is saying pedos should look to socialist organization or have a place in socialist organization

What I am saying is i recently posted an article which says other things about child abuse and capitalism whose points are important and not reflected in these demands

And some of this abuse is done by people who are literally the opposite of people who can know they need to stay away from children bc they’re pedos bc their abuse of children is bc they are around them

Like it is an issue of acting like this is exclusively a problem of the individual (pedophilia as an innate condition but I don’t know what I think about that vs it being socially constructed, but I don’t think it is a naturally occurring phenomenon ie not at all a social product, like I don’t think any paraphilia is)

Or um a product of capitalist and class society and alienation etc

And I actually dc bc I don’t see how it matters other than it being a question of reality

But not one worth addressing as such tbh

Is my opinion on it at this time

But I didn’t mean anything sinister by it jfc

I was just acknowledging the limitations of suggesting these purely personal individual steps that pedos should take to be “non offending”, including staying away from children

And I had just read and linked to an article which says there’s a lot more to child abuse than that and it’s alienation from capitalism whose only solution is socialism and I didn’t mean anything by it other than acknowledging that

That this purely individual thing I am trying to articulate - pedo negativity - by staying away from children and not doing activities that are attraction to children, thoughts included

Isn’t discussing capitalism’s role in creating conditions of child abuse due to alienation etc

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what I have never said and never meant is that a. pedos can change, in general or so that b. Any kind of organization should accept them in any capacity, in general or bc of some personal growth

Like wtf kind of assumption is that

I was acknowledging that people say capitalism has a role in child abuse, alienation from capitalist society contributes to child abuse, and that can’t just be addressed by telling pedos to stay away from kids, and them doing it bc they are dedicated to “not offending” which they should be

but like Lenin says this is all conjecture so I don’t see the point in really going into these things and i wouldn’t if my mentioning it once or twice in a poor way bc of my ignorance on the subject - I’d never say it the wrong way if I knew it was the wrong way to say it - didn’t get twisted into something it never was and idk how to fix that bc it’s just not anything I believe

I guess it does address the issue in a way that attacks bourgeois society

Which not blaming bourgeois society and its alienation doesn’t and can never do but like I said I don’t really care tbh i would rather talk abt something else

And ppl who do talk abt this don’t talk about it out of actual desire to understand child abuse either imo from my experience

on any side

so it’s kind of like ok idc I guess

As for the admittedly convoluted way I worded the way pedos should manage their behavior, I didn’t have the right words for what I had in mind but hadn’t seen expressed bc i don’t usually read pedo discourse on that level and I was going by what I was seeing on the dedicated anti pedo blogs and tags

Which turned out to be bad and wrong and now that I know better the scope of discussion and disagreements on these phrasings I would say something better but the idea was only that they should stay away from children and also not do anything which reproduces their attraction to children from thoughts to media consumption

If using words like delusion and suggesting they should be in treatment which all the blogs and posts I saw at that time, admittedly a limited amount bc I had just perused the tags and blogs to get an idea of what ppl say

All them were saying that

If that’s wrong then I apologize and i wish I hadn’t been so hasty to comment on something w so limited exposure to the discussion but I can’t help it and i didn’t realize it was that serious

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Like I don’t even care about the questions of how bourgeois society contributes to rape and csa besides limiting resources for exit from that situation which allows abusers to hold that dependence over their victims head.

I was trying to sort thru being attacked for shit I would never want to say or never believed but haven’t had a chance to sort thru all the info being said about it and some of it is wrong and presented as professional or whatever

I need time to sort thru everything and I wouldn’t even post the stuff above if she didn’t make Me feel like I had to research this stuff (I don’t know much about it)

And also I had read some criticisms of radical feminism saying alienation causes people to rape and abuse and I was sorting thru that

Plus Lenin says there are all kinds of outrages coming from the disintegrating petty bourgeoisie and that is part of the way capitalism works etc

I was trying to sort out all the info before I could decide what I would want to say about it and what I wouldn’t and i wouldn’t have even mentioned this other stuff about opportunity offenders if she didn’t make me feel guilty for pointing out that you can’t just say “pedos stay away from kids” WHICH THEY SHOULD AND THAT IS SACROSANCT but what about many offenses being opportunity offenses which mean the person doesn’t think of themselves as a pedo who needs to stay away from kids (all pedos should think of themselves that way), but many offenses happen bc the abuser has access to kids ie is around kids in the first place. Etc

BUT I REALLY DONT CARE. THIS ISNT A TOPIC I WANT TO ARGUE ABOUT EXCEPT WHATEVER ANTI PEDO PEOPLE HAVE DECIDED IS NECESSARY TO SAY

but still I was trying to sort out all the new info I had read and stuff.. still didn’t get a chance to sort it out. Was still trying to deal w the trauma of this situation happening to me which I can’t deal w and won’t . Etc.

Having sorted it out more, I wouldn’t even mention the stats on opportunity offenders relative to the stuff I read, criticism of feminism which doesn’t account for alienation as a cause of rape etc

I probably would ignore all that.

I don’t think everything needs to be politicized. And never have. But I still sort thru info

I’ve always looked to this passage for how rapists pedos and adults who hang around kids for no reason should be dealt w - shot on the spot

all I want is for no one to ever have to experience csa or rape and that’s all I ever wanted

I don’t think minors can consent to sex

I wouldn’t try to politicize that issue at all and never have, that blog just came up and I started reading it and mentioned what I read on it and mentioned recently reading an article about sexual abuse and capitalism which also talks about csa and I didnt mean anything by any of it and she came along and started scaring me and all of this is bc of her accusations and feeling scared and wanting to say I don’t believe any of the horrible things she’s accusing me of believing (it’s my thoughts I know. I know I’ve literally never felt sorry for them or anything thats just never been me not once in my life. I only ever felt deep grief for their victims and that’s the only ones I’ve ever cared about like a normal person. I can’t even imagine any of the crazy shit these people talk about)

I wouldn’t politicize it and I wasn’t trying to. Now I’ve read a lot more information about everything and I’ve gotten a better sense of what I would say and wouldn’t say w better knowledge where before it was like a black box and i wouldn’t politicize it before after or in between!! I’ve never had any desire to do that but I guess I know more now and feel the same way - none of this is relevant. It’s like this I guess

It’s all a panic or trying to figure out what’s what bc of her crazy accusations I could never imagine much less believe!!!

I wouldn’t have read any of these articles about pedos i wouldn’t have watched the documentary about them if it wasn’t for her scaring me

I know more about them now but I’m pissed bc I didn’t need to learn More and i don’t want to know more

All it is is traumatic why can’t people who want to learn more do it and I will listen to what anti pedo people say and that’s all i care about

I would never argue w them and have no desire to fact check them Or anything like that anything anti pedo people say is fine to me but now I see even they lie and say deceptive things that’s why I got so terrified when i saw the popular anti pedo blog I was reading was saying fucked up shit I’d never want to be associated w. I couldn’t imagine that but now I know.

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Reminder I switched my blog to rgyhr5y on a new blog

Like still at that url.. and don’t blog on this blog anymore

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First two are the same blog second is a post i linked to and they say they should get treatment so I thought these were ok sources

and they say.. they are silent and do everything to avoid children I thought that was the best you could ask for if they’re not going to do harm and won’t die

I thought they are horrified by their thoughts so they avoid children at all costs and don’t make a big deal about it “suffer in silence”

I thought it was a preferable thing to identify as, those behaviors than as a pedophile ie idebtifying w the attraction even if both are totally private that’s the silence part

Or not as a pedophile at all, bc you successfully suppress ur attraction until it’s effectively absent

I was mistaken like I’m sorry I really didn’t understand I thought it was a permanent identification not that they can change

And that they still stay away from Children

Bc that’s what I think they should do so I thought that’s obvious so they must be calling it this

That first post and like one other post in the anti map tag was all I’d seen on pocd

When I mentioned it .. saying “I learned this (from this blog)”

There’s nothing in it that indicates it’s “curable” or temporary or not a permanent way to be.. and this person thinks pedos should be in treatment so when they say suffer in silence for years I think they mean before seeking treatment (which this person says is necessary to do)

But there’s no indication that it is not a permanent thing

AND I MENTIONED LEARNING ABT THIS POCD ON THIS BLOG IN THE TAGS OF THE SECOND POST

So I was like... combining the two posts.. to be the best you could hope for from them

And I mentioned pocd bc I had said in another post o My blog is 100% pedo negative

And linked to the third post

So I was like this is what I meant, including don’t associate w other pedophiles

And stay away from children

And From the limited posts I saw on it (two) it seemed that was a word for that

It’s not bc it is totally different than what the first post says

The treatment isn’t compliant w the second post and it is so scary to me

I just didn’t know I’m sorry.

what pocd is isn’t at all what I meant and it’s not at all what I thought it was from the first post

Idk if there’s a word for what I thought it was I haven’t seen it

Looks like pedophile is that too but I guess a private identification

after thinking abt it for more than the five sec bw me seeing it on the blog and mentioning it in the tags when I reblogged a post a little bit down or whatever I realize that is the only thing pedophile should mean so I think it’s right that there isn’t a word for that

Idk i hadn’t gotten a chance to think abt it before mentioning it like and idiot but was relieved to see it already existed as a concept and I assumed it would (combination of post 2 and staying silent and staying away from children at all costs.. permanently)

I just had total faith in that blog and was so shattered when I read a call out post mentioning pocd w the thing I hate so much I read about years ago and hate myself for reading it to this day

The studies ... and I was so scared someone would be like you read them And accuse me of believing them when I didn’t know what to think of them and they just upset me a lot

But I dismissed those right away or after thinking about them for a little bit bc they were shocking I didn’t expect something like that and I had never seen relevant discussions

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“Q: In the West it is thought that desire, especially sexual desire, is a problem because it is largely unconscious. It is also thought that denial and absten­tion only changes the form of desire. How does Buddhism ap­proach the Unconscious?

Dalai Lama: ‘Conscious level’, ‘semiconscious level’, ‘uncon­scious level’ — these are terms used by Western psychologists. Anyway, as you know, in all matters there are limits; it is as well to realize those limits. I think there are two major factors which contribute to our experience of sexual desire — one is the structure of our bodies and the elements within our bodies, and the other is the level of our minds — delusion.”

Sexual Desire, by The Dalai Lama (1990)

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I wish I knew which posts I was like comparing sexology to political economy

And i was like what do sexologists take for granted (like bourgeois political economists take value for granted)

And I was like I think it’s sexuality

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I know it is not a valid distinction to people on here and in the general public

That many csa perpetrators are not what would technically or clinically be considered pedophiles and their abuse is out of opportunity

And They would say child abusers are pedophiles and I totally agree w them

But if you are imploring, like I was.. kind of rhetorically, even tho I was using the wrong terms and concepts and I blame the anti pedo blogs I was reading bc it’s what they were saying and I assumed they were correct

If you are Imploring individual sexual deviants to stop doing whatever makes them think they are attracted to children

Bc they have to believe they are to know they need to stop

If they are doing anything that is attraction to children they need to stop

And you are telling them they need to take all precautions to stay away from children

Even if they successfully stop reproducing activity that is attraction to children they still need to stay away from them

that was all I wanted to say even if I used the wrong words bc I was just using what I saw on anti pedo blogs not knowing it was wrong

If you are saying that and establishing those requirements in the name of reducing child abuse (and harm to society)

Then ur not really addressing the child abuse that happens out of opportunity by ppl who are not considered attracted to children

I know that distinction isn’t valid on here and I don’t disagree w it so i wish I didn’t even bother mentioning it but I did mention that that article also says child abuse happens bc of opportunity (power position over the child) and alienation and only socialism can change that society wide condition

It was absolutely not saying that pedos or abusers have a place in socialist organization and I absolutely did not mean that and am really upset of being accused of saying pedos can change and other insane shit that isn’t anything I’ve ever thought or meant

That might not be about me bc i never said that but if she’s twisting the fact I said NO COLLECTIVISM FOR PEDOS while saying they should do this totally individual thing - stay away from kids and don’t reproduce their attraction to children

Admittedly I also said get treatment bc all the anti pedo shit I was seeing said they HAVE to be in treatment to be considered actually being proactive to be “non offending”

BUT IDC REALLY I’M NOT ATTACHED I WAS JUST SAYIN THAT BC I ASSUMED IT WAS WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE CORRECT

It was from Like one day of looking at anti pedo blogs and tags it was w little exposure to these discussions if treatment is a bad idea and I agree, after more thinking and research, that it is

Then idc that’s not the important part of anything I was saying and I really don’t think it was even worth mentioning

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“The role of opportunity in sexual offending against children

It is also important to recognise that not all child sex offenders feel driven or compelled to sexually abuse children. In fact, opportunity can play a key role in the commission of sexual offences against children. As Wortley and Smallbone (2006) argue, research has indicated that situational and environmental factors can play a key role in sexual offending against children. Smallbone and Wortley’s (2001) own research on child sex offenders found, for example:

a late onset of offending behaviour (37% were aged 31 to 40 years);

a low incidence of chronic sexual offending (less than one-quarter had previous convictions for sexual offences);

a high incidence of previous non-sexual offending (approximately 60% had convictions for non-sexual offences);

a low incidence of stranger abuse (94% abused their own child or a child they already knew);

a low incidence of networking among offenders (only about 8% had talked to other offenders);

a low incidence of child pornography use (approximately 10% had used child pornography); and

a low incidence of paraphilic interests (very small proportions could have been diagnosed with other sexually deviant interests such as voyeurism or sexual sadism; Wortley & Smallbone 2006).”

https://aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi429

What do you think about a high incidence of previous non sexual crime and late onset of offense? Does this sound like people in a high status in society ??? W control over their lives and behavior? Or people who are probably regressing in these respects?

I honestly don’t even think this is worth discussing and if I knew it would be so grossly distorted I wouldn’t have mentioned it on my blog No one reads but i just did bc I saw it and it reminded me of what I was thinking

About if they can stop reproducing whatever behavior makes them think they are attracted to children and I saw the anti pedo blogs saying they have to do that and I was like o I already was thinking that so I said it in tags just bc like If I knew it would be so distorted in such a gross way I can’t even begin To understand how or why she does that

Idk if the things she says ppl say are all like that or if that wasn’t abt me acknowledging I read in a socialist article that abuse including child abuse is a result of alienation and a position of power over children ie opportunity

And that isn’t reflected in telling individual pedos to take precautions not to abuse ie stay away from Kids

And stop reproducing the behavior which makes them attracted to children or whatever idk how to say what I was thinking and it was just a thought

I had had and thought they had a word for it but it’s wrong I’m sorry? It was the first day I saw those blogs

So articles like the socialist explanations of sexual violence say these are highly alienated disempowered individuals and I personally wonder if sexuality is a symptom of that but that’s not even worth talking about if people are going to have issues w understanding it and they will bc they don’t don’t actually ever read about sexuality from what I can tell

So I wonder if being highly sexualized in their abject state isn’t coincidental

this is the article I referred to in the tags When I was like ok there’s telling pedos to stay away from kids and stop being attracted to children

And stop doing anything that reproduces that “delusion” tho I wouldn’t say that now bc I see why people say that’s the wrong thing to say but I hadn’t seen anyone say anything about it yet then

And I am able to adjust my views/understanding to new info and that’s what I did as soon as I saw someone saying it’s wrong to use those kinds of words/ideas re pedophilia AND THATS FINE I AGREE

so when I say ok, pedos should stay away from children, not reproduce the behavior that makes them attracted to children, and not make a big deal of it ie shut up, and don’t look to collectivism either, THEN THERES THIS OTHER SHIT ABOUT ALIENATION AND CHILD ABUSE IN THIS ARTICLE WHICH NONE OF THIS ADDRESSES

what I am NOT doing is saying pedos should look to socialist organization or have a place in socialist organization

What I am saying is i recently posted an article which says other things about child abuse and capitalism whose points are important and not reflected in these demands

And some of this abuse is done by people who are literally the opposite of people who can know they need to stay away from children bc they’re pedos bc their abuse of children is bc they are around them

Like it is an issue of acting like this is exclusively a problem of the individual (pedophilia as an innate condition but I don’t know what I think about that vs it being socially constructed, but I don’t think it is a naturally occurring phenomenon ie not at all a social product, like I don’t think any paraphilia is)

Or um a product of capitalist and class society and alienation etc

And I actually dc bc I don’t see how it matters other than it being a question of reality

But not one worth addressing as such tbh

Is my opinion on it at this time

But I didn’t mean anything sinister by it jfc

I was just acknowledging the limitations of suggesting these purely personal individual steps that pedos should take to be “non offending”, including staying away from children

And I had just read and linked to an article which says there’s a lot more to child abuse than that and it’s alienation from capitalism whose only solution is socialism and I didn’t mean anything by it other than acknowledging that

That this purely individual thing I am trying to articulate - pedo negativity - by staying away from children and not doing activities that are attraction to children, thoughts included

Isn’t discussing capitalism’s role in creating conditions of child abuse due to alienation etc

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what I have never said and never meant is that a. pedos can change, in general or so that b. Any kind of organization should accept them in any capacity, in general or bc of some personal growth

Like wtf kind of assumption is that

I was acknowledging that people say capitalism has a role in child abuse, alienation from capitalist society contributes to child abuse, and that can’t just be addressed by telling pedos to stay away from kids, and them doing it bc they are dedicated to “not offending” which they should be

but like Lenin says this is all conjecture so I don’t see the point in really going into these things and i wouldn’t if my mentioning it once or twice in a poor way bc of my ignorance on the subject - I’d never say it the wrong way if I knew it was the wrong way to say it - didn’t get twisted into something it never was and idk how to fix that bc it’s just not anything I believe

I guess it does address the issue in a way that attacks bourgeois society

Which not blaming bourgeois society and its alienation doesn’t and can never do but like I said I don’t really care tbh i would rather talk abt something else

And ppl who do talk abt this don’t talk about it out of actual desire to understand child abuse either imo from my experience

on any side

so it’s kind of like ok idc I guess

As for the admittedly convoluted way I worded the way pedos should manage their behavior, I didn’t have the right words for what I had in mind but hadn’t seen expressed bc i don’t usually read pedo discourse on that level and I was going by what I was seeing on the dedicated anti pedo blogs and tags

Which turned out to be bad and wrong and now that I know better the scope of discussion and disagreements on these phrasings I would say something better but the idea was only that they should stay away from children and also not do anything which reproduces their attraction to children from thoughts to media consumption

If using words like delusion and suggesting they should be in treatment which all the blogs and posts I saw at that time, admittedly a limited amount bc I had just perused the tags and blogs to get an idea of what ppl say

All them were saying that

If that’s wrong then I apologize and i wish I hadn’t been so hasty to comment on something w so limited exposure to the discussion but I can’t help it and i didn’t realize it was that serious

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I know it is not a valid distinction to people on here and in the general public

That many csa perpetrators are not what would technically or clinically be considered pedophiles and their abuse is out of opportunity

And They would say child abusers are pedophiles and I totally agree w them

But if you are imploring, like I was.. kind of rhetorically, even tho I was using the wrong terms and concepts and I blame the anti pedo blogs I was reading bc it’s what they were saying and I assumed they were correct

If you are Imploring individual sexual deviants to stop doing whatever makes them think they are attracted to children

Bc they have to believe they are to know they need to stop

If they are doing anything that is attraction to children they need to stop

And you are telling them they need to take all precautions to stay away from children

Even if they successfully stop reproducing activity that is attraction to children they still need to stay away from them

that was all I wanted to say even if I used the wrong words bc I was just using what I saw on anti pedo blogs not knowing it was wrong

If you are saying that and establishing those requirements in the name of reducing child abuse (and harm to society)

Then ur not really addressing the child abuse that happens out of opportunity by ppl who are not considered attracted to children

I know that distinction isn’t valid on here and I don’t disagree w it so i wish I didn’t even bother mentioning it but I did mention that that article also says child abuse happens bc of opportunity (power position over the child) and alienation and only socialism can change that society wide condition

It was absolutely not saying that pedos or abusers have a place in socialist organization and I absolutely did not mean that and am really upset of being accused of saying pedos can change and other insane shit that isn’t anything I’ve ever thought or meant

That might not be about me bc i never said that but if she’s twisting the fact I said NO COLLECTIVISM FOR PEDOS while saying they should do this totally individual thing - stay away from kids and don’t reproduce their attraction to children

Admittedly I also said get treatment bc all the anti pedo shit I was seeing said they HAVE to be in treatment to be considered actually being proactive to be “non offending”

BUT IDC REALLY I’M NOT ATTACHED I WAS JUST SAYIN THAT BC I ASSUMED IT WAS WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE CORRECT

It was from Like one day of looking at anti pedo blogs and tags it was w little exposure to these discussions if treatment is a bad idea and I agree, after more thinking and research, that it is

Then idc that’s not the important part of anything I was saying and I really don’t think it was even worth mentioning

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“The role of opportunity in sexual offending against children

It is also important to recognise that not all child sex offenders feel driven or compelled to sexually abuse children. In fact, opportunity can play a key role in the commission of sexual offences against children. As Wortley and Smallbone (2006) argue, research has indicated that situational and environmental factors can play a key role in sexual offending against children. Smallbone and Wortley’s (2001) own research on child sex offenders found, for example:

a late onset of offending behaviour (37% were aged 31 to 40 years);

a low incidence of chronic sexual offending (less than one-quarter had previous convictions for sexual offences);

a high incidence of previous non-sexual offending (approximately 60% had convictions for non-sexual offences);

a low incidence of stranger abuse (94% abused their own child or a child they already knew);

a low incidence of networking among offenders (only about 8% had talked to other offenders);

a low incidence of child pornography use (approximately 10% had used child pornography); and

a low incidence of paraphilic interests (very small proportions could have been diagnosed with other sexually deviant interests such as voyeurism or sexual sadism; Wortley & Smallbone 2006).”

https://aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi429

What do you think about a high incidence of previous non sexual crime and late onset of offense? Does this sound like people in a high status in society ??? W control over their lives and behavior? Or people who are probably regressing in these respects?

I honestly don’t even think this is worth discussing and if I knew it would be so grossly distorted I wouldn’t have mentioned it on my blog No one reads but i just did bc I saw it and it reminded me of what I was thinking

About if they can stop reproducing whatever behavior makes them think they are attracted to children and I saw the anti pedo blogs saying they have to do that and I was like o I already was thinking that so I said it in tags just bc like If I knew it would be so distorted in such a gross way I can’t even begin To understand how or why she does that

Idk if the things she says ppl say are all like that or if that wasn’t abt me acknowledging I read in a socialist article that abuse including child abuse is a result of alienation and a position of power over children ie opportunity

And that isn’t reflected in telling individual pedos to take precautions not to abuse ie stay away from Kids

And stop reproducing the behavior which makes them attracted to children or whatever idk how to say what I was thinking and it was just a thought

I had had and thought they had a word for it but it’s wrong I’m sorry? It was the first day I saw those blogs

So articles like the socialist explanations of sexual violence say these are highly alienated disempowered individuals and I personally wonder if sexuality is a symptom of that but that’s not even worth talking about if people are going to have issues w understanding it and they will bc they don’t don’t actually ever read about sexuality from what I can tell

So I wonder if being highly sexualized in their abject state isn’t coincidental

this is the article I referred to in the tags When I was like ok there’s telling pedos to stay away from kids and stop being attracted to children

And stop doing anything that reproduces that “delusion” tho I wouldn’t say that now bc I see why people say that’s the wrong thing to say but I hadn’t seen anyone say anything about it yet then

And I am able to adjust my views/understanding to new info and that’s what I did as soon as I saw someone saying it’s wrong to use those kinds of words/ideas re pedophilia AND THATS FINE I AGREE

so when I say ok, pedos should stay away from children, not reproduce the behavior that makes them attracted to children, and not make a big deal of it ie shut up, and don’t look to collectivism either, THEN THERES THIS OTHER SHIT ABOUT ALIENATION AND CHILD ABUSE IN THIS ARTICLE WHICH NONE OF THIS ADDRESSES

what I am NOT doing is saying pedos should look to socialist organization or have a place in socialist organization

What I am saying is i recently posted an article which says other things about child abuse and capitalism whose points are important and not reflected in these demands

And some of this abuse is done by people who are literally the opposite of people who can know they need to stay away from children bc they’re pedos bc their abuse of children is bc they are around them

Like it is an issue of acting like this is exclusively a problem of the individual (pedophilia as an innate condition but I don’t know what I think about that vs it being socially constructed, but I don’t think it is a naturally occurring phenomenon ie not at all a social product, like I don’t think any paraphilia is)

Or um a product of capitalist and class society and alienation etc

And I actually dc bc I don’t see how it matters other than it being a question of reality

But not one worth addressing as such tbh

Is my opinion on it at this time

But I didn’t mean anything sinister by it jfc

I was just acknowledging the limitations of suggesting these purely personal individual steps that pedos should take to be “non offending”, including staying away from children

And I had just read and linked to an article which says there’s a lot more to child abuse than that and it’s alienation from capitalism whose only solution is socialism and I didn’t mean anything by it other than acknowledging that

That this purely individual thing I am trying to articulate - pedo negativity - by staying away from children and not doing activities that are attraction to children, thoughts included

Isn’t discussing capitalism’s role in creating conditions of child abuse due to alienation etc

[lakdjdjsidj]

This culture doesn’t even have a celibate figure like a monk

idk what kind of prominence monks have in Buddhist cultures present and past

[lakdjdjsidj]

I said they should stay away from kids and not reproduce their sexual desires in any way and i wrongly assumed that’s what they were calling pocd

Bc there’s no such thing as non offending pedophile but since making these tags which were literally me just being like o they have a word for this I learned that from this anti pedo blog

Which was wrong

That blog was wrong

It was wrong to say it’s a delusion but I still don’t see how it’s wrong to say they shouldn’t identify as a pedophile? Maybe only privately bc they have to take precautions to stay away from kids

I was looking for a word for that and it’s confusing

I hadn’t established an opinion was just trying to figure out what to think

I didn’t mean they can abandon the need to stay away from kids I thought that pocd was life long staying away from kids but negating anything about pedophilia in their life too

Part of these comments was my developing skepticism of sex/uality (not nec sexual orientation) kind of being stronger than my exposure to pedophilia discourse

And it was partly influenced by that BUT I don’t like to extend my thoughts to pedophilia

First of all

I just don’t

But I didn’t even know about Buddhism or monks like that either

I was trying to say … something like

They beleive they are pedophiles and that belief is based on something

And they need to stop producing whatever that is

Whatever makes them beleive they are attracted to children

BUT they’re still pedophiles and they also need to take all available precautions to stay away from children too

So they can’t stop being pedophiles

But they should stop being pedophiles

That was what my thoughts were at this time

I don’t know if I still feel that way but it wasn’t a well developed opinion it was just my intuition I had at that time which I had not yet examined

If this is wrong then I am not attached to it it just seemed to make sense to me

But I absolutely am not dedicated to it or anything that is like not the right thing to beleive on this issue

I genuinely think the anti pedo blog was wrongly assigning the term pocd to this concept

And that is why I thought it was that bc they said they “suffer in silence and do everything possible to avoid children”

And I’m tired of hearing about pedophiles saying they avoid children and don’t use cp etc like I don’t knwo why they can’t shut up and do that in silence tbh

IT WAS A MISTAKE I didn’t understand and I’d never heard about it except on this one anti pedo blog I was reading and in the anti map tag someone said they have pocd and they’re making like one post about it and not to associate w pedophiles or the map community and I was like ok what is the most you can hope for

[lakdjdjsidj]

They think they are attracted to children for a reason

Some thoughts they have

Some sexual response they have

And I was saying they need to stop doing that

But that doesn’t not make them Pedos

they’re still a danger to children

So they can’t say they’re not pedophiles if they do that bc they still are

And as such they still have to take all available precautions to stay away from children

There are some established rules/guides for that and at the very least they can do that … stay however many feet away from children and whatever else convicts have to do … wo being a convict yet.. they can do that and would if they were dedicated to not harming children and they have to be

THATS WHAT I MEANT I know it’s prob unclear

I thought that could be called pocd bc I am scared if they id w pedophile they will become one and meet others

So I thought there was a word for this negative mode of pedophilia that is existing

And it was pocd

I was wrong

Yes, I had been becoming increasingly skeptical of sexuality or sexualness prior to this excursion and it unfortunately influenced my assumptions on what I was going to conclude

And part of that skepticism is of pedophilia as a naturally occurring phenomenon in the first place but like agp (which is not related, but of course someone w agp is capable of being a peodphile like someone of any orientation)

I don’t think it can be changed once it has occurred but i was still unsure of how I felt then

About whether it can be changed/abandoned

And I don’t think it can now

So yes some of my assumptions in those tags are wrong and they weren’t really opinions just kind of thoughts

And I hadn’t seen much on this subject I literally had just started reading anti pedo blogs and got so scared when I saw pocd was some weird shit

I wrongly assumed pocd was a word for something more restricted that they can identify w.. when pedophile they can start associating w other pedos and start thinking they need rights etc and they can start thinking it’s ok to be a pedo and they can start thinking all kinds of things which would automatically be excluded from this other identification which still acknowledges a need to stay away from children bc they’re still pedos in content

I was wrong. It’s not that at all and I want to die it’s too hard to live

Of course I want pedos not to exist at all and I think that is an ok thing to hope for

But after trying to understand what that means or the possibility of that I don’t think it’s worth even thinking or talking about and I wish I hadn’t even tried

at some point I don’t really care it was just a thought and It’s not worth even having if ppl are going to twist it into insane shit you never thought or meant bc you dk everything they know about it

Which I didn’t

I was trying to understand what ppl are saying bc idk what a nomap is and still don’t

I gave up but I decided to look around then

I regret it

[lakdjdjsidj]

Also when I said in these tags something about

How that one article says that class society causes people to become abusers and that socialism will end that sort of thing

That’s what that article says

I don’t want to theorize on it idc to argue but it does say that

it says child abuse is bc of alienation

Or at least some

what I absolutely did not mean was that pedophiles should be allowed in socialist orgs or some shit like pls stop I did not mean that

Only what that article says is that child abuse is a product of alienation and that socialism ends alienation so a lot of that abuse shouldn’t happen I HAVE NO OPINION ON THAT BUT THE ARTICLE SAYS THAT

If I knew ppl would be malicious about me saying that article says that which it does i wouldn’t mention it

I even said no collectivism for pedos

all I meant was that article says that only socialism can address the alienation that is at the root of a lot of child abuse

It says that and I remembered that

Bc what I am ultimately concerned w is preventing child abuse

So I pointed to that article which has its own theory about how child abuse will be reduced under inalienated society in socialism

I had just read that article about how alienation is the cause of sexual violence idk if it’s true or not but it talks a bit about csa specifically so I referred to it

It says only socialism will Make an impact on really reducing sexual violence and maybe it’s wrong idk

I really dc after a while you know

Apparently feminists want sexual abuse to not happen like it does now It has to happen somehow either w pure will of the would be abusers not to do it anymore or like she says it is bc of alienation and ending alienation will reduce the abuse

I really don’t care to dwell on which is correct but like ppl who would abuse need to not .. in order for it to end

I used to think, like these Marxists say about feminism, that talking about it, and women being able to communicate abuse they’re experiencing will end it

And punishment

But that’s what they’re saying isn’t doing anything

O and women being able to be independent financially and equal financially too

Which I guess they do agree w

Like I thought when women could be economically independent and equal they would not have any reason to tolerate abuse you know

Combined w voicing that something had is happening

And I still beleive that

I guess that’s the development of consciousness

So in those tags I was like this is what pedos need to do now

Stay away from children, a positive action

And not reproduce whatever behaviors and thoughts are causing them to think they are attracted to children and idk if that’s controversial but I don’t understand how it’s different from what anti pedophile ppl say they need to be doing or not be doing anyway?

BUT I had just read the article that says socialism is the “cure” for alienation which is the cause of violence so I was like that too bc I recognize they are saying sexual violence won’t be ended under alienated society

Like if I knew it would be twisted so bad and ppl would take it so bad I wouldn’t say it but it is a criticism of feminism

It is a criticism of the feminism which says speaking out about sexual violence is a way to end it and I think it has to be bc how else can people know it’s wrong

Like I think people have to voice something is harmful for people to know not to do it etc

But that’s an assumption idk

I’m getting tired of feminism but that doesn’t mean I don’t hate pedos and what then to die I do hate them and want them to die and don’t think they have a place anywhere in society much less socialist orgs

I SAID THE ARTICLE SAYS SOCIALISM IE INALIENATED SOCIETY IS THE WAY TO REDUCE OR END SEXUAL VIOLENCE

It’s like this

“Let us take two predominant topics of today’s American radical academia: postcolonial and queer (gay) studies. The problem of postcolonialism is undoubtedly crucial; however, “postcolonial studies” tend to translate it into the multiculturalist problematic of the colonized minorities’ “right to narrate” their victimizing experience, of the power mechanisms which repress “otherness,” so that, at the end of the day, we learn that the root of the postcolonial exploitation is our intolerance towards the Other, and, furthermore, that this intolerance itself is rooted in our intolerance towards the “Stranger in Ourselves,” in our inability to confront what we repressed in and of ourselves — the politico-economic struggle is thus imperceptibly transformed into a pseudo-psychoanalytic drama of the subject unable to confront its inner traumas...“

Zizek

Except about feminism and all the feminism critical articles I posted or most of them say this too

I Dk about the “otherness” part but the part about politics being reduced to narrating ur victimizing experiences and so the economic question being imperceptibly transformed ... into nothing?? Yeah

Like the article in question starts talking about the campaigns to break the silence on sexual violence and says this and other things

“Why governments won’t really tackle domestic violence

At first glance it might seem that sexual violence and abuse is entrenched because of the silence in which it has traditionally been shrouded, particularly within the church and other institutions. But just breaking this silence has made very little difference. Regular media headlines and articles still proclaim there is an “epidemic” of family violence, and many suggest that it is getting worse.[9] It is very difficult to get a clear picture of the prevalence of sexual violence against women. Because the police have successfully convinced more women that complaints will be taken seriously, rates of reporting are increasing. But an increase in reporting does not necessarily correlate with an increase in actual instances of violence or abuse. Actual rates, and their accompanying trends, are notoriously difficult to measure. Some statistics are used in ways that do not distinguish between sexual and other forms of violence or family abuse. And researchers point out that even in private interviews many people will not admit to abuse, as it makes them feel ashamed, suffering from internalised ideas that they must have somehow contributed to it. For others, it still seems a private matter which they find difficult to discuss. In the Guardian survey above, contrary to most public statements and popular perceptions of escalating rates of violence, Tasmania, the Northern Territory and Queensland claimed family violence assaults had declined in the last year. But whatever the underlying trend is, there is little evidence to suggest that levels of intimate partner violence have declined significantly over four decades, despite a number of reforms which have improved the position of women.“

SO I WAS SIMPLY ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT THIS ARTICLE SAYS - that the reduction in abuse inc child abuse won’t come under capitalism SINCE WHAT I WAS SAYING MADE NO MENTION OF THAT AND I ONLY THESE THINGS BC LIKE EVERYONE ELSE I WANT CHILD ABUSE TO STOP HAPPENING and like many ppl I want patriarchy to end

And I personally want pedos to stop existing tbh and that was underlying those tags too

instead of the thing about narrating victimizing experience turning into a psychoanalytical melodrama it’s narrating and uncovering victimizing experience turning into reforms that don’t actually make a dent in the amount of violence or something like that

I am beginning to hate feminism they literally cannot understand anything and I know I’m not clear and don’t read what I post and those tags weren’t a clear thought they were me trying to put into words some poor thought out thoughts I had kind of had here and there

Which didn’t come out the best and some were wrong and you know idk what to do about that

Not being born w every correct opinion fully formed and having to go thru processes of figuring them out

[lakdjdjsidj]

IMPORTANT: I don’t read what i post so it will often not come out right or might be easily misread

That is possible and I never want to say anything that makes me look worse than I am bc I am not bad I don’t do anything but post on the internet and don’t do anything illegal or want to

But I can’t bother to read what I write most of the time so I am sorry but I might write something that doesn’t come out in any way I mean it and can be misinterpreted

If something seems fucked up I probably didn’t word it well and if I proofread it I would probably change it

But I don’t read most of what I post sorry

I just type it and never look at it to check it it makes sense and I can’t bother to do better

That’s something anyone who reads anything i post needs to know and keep in mind sorry

if ur sitting there twisting some shit i wrote wo reading it into something fucked up i never meant or thought in my life, if it’s bc it came out wrong and can be misinterpreted or interpreted that way, i most certainly didn’t mean it in some fucked up way and pls ask me what I meant so I can read it for the first time and fix it and say o sorry that’s not what i meant or idk what I was trying to say there sorry

I know occasionally I do make sense and it is ok and idk that’s the best I can do you can’t take anything i post seriously bc I probably said it wrong if there’s even a coherent thought behind it

FOR EX

and this is probably not even the worst one but it is a rare occasion I read what I wrote and good thing I did bc what I posted initially came out bad and would be interpreted bad and ppl want to do that to me already... doesn’t make it right or what they want to think i said or think true

I never think or say anything bad or knowingly supportive of anything fucked up

I always have good intentions

Tho sometimes I have been ignorant and liberal at worst sorry

ANYWAY

back to the example post or something I typed that came out super bad

Luckily i changed it bc it was a rare occasion I read what I posted

this post From the other day

Starts off

“Like there is nothing good about porn or anything worth it in using it

There’s the fact that it contains abuse and is abuse of women and normalizes abusive sexual relations and women and girls are expected to have sex like that in porn “

I edited this tho and good thing i caught how it came out when I just spat it out like stream of consciousness like i do everything i post

Bc what came out when i just typed it was

“Like there is nothing good about porn or anything worth it in using it

besides the fact that it contains abuse and is abuse of women and normalizes abusive sexual relations and women and girls are expected to have sex like that in porn “

Like by “besides the fact that it contains abuse” or is abuse

I meant to be like in addition to being terrible for the fact it contains abuse, It also ...

Whatever I say next

But it could be interpreted like I mean there’s nothing good in porn but the abuse in it like saying abuse in it is the only good thing

THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT THE ABUSE THAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE (mostly female) IN PORN IS THE WORST THING ABOUT IT .. is what I actually meant

But it could have been and would have been read wrong if I left it the way I just typed it out and posted if I it wasn’t one of the rare occasions I check what I typed/posted n saw that’s fucked up better change that.. and edited it to be more clear

I usually never do that bc I usually NEVER read what I type and post sorry

Like wish I treated myself better but I don’t

it’s much more likely i would have left it that way wo ever knowing it looks like that bc I wouldn’t have read just posted it and never looked again

so if you see something questionable to interpret ASSUME ITS SOME SHIT I DIDNT MEAN TO BE QUESTIONABLE and ask me to correct or explain it please

Like noticed someone was looking at this post so i edited the tags to be clearer - i’ve never used illegal porn or wanted to or had issues w that kink/abusive paraphilia thanks

post/178868691727/ive-never-done-anything-too-bad-and-never-wanted

My issues I’m complaining abt was one encounter w their DISCOURSE ONLY, abt how society should deal w them ONLY, not the content they consume itself which is rightfully and necessarily illegal and should be punished w death thanks or anything like that

Like I’ve never done anything that bad wish I never watched normal adult porn that lot of ppl watch and many ppl think is acceptable if distasteful n some don’t even think it’s distasteful BUT I DISAGREE W THEM

And unfortunately reblogged that photo wo realizing the extent of its horribleness and it is way worse than anything I could have imagined

It truly is and I am so sorry

And one time I asked for better explanation of some fucked up shit data worshippers and pedo apologists were trying to say... and i regret asking so much I am so upset by it bc I never want to comment on any side but extreme anti side and idk what was wrong w me other than I was new to reddit and fucked up discourse like that and the whole back and forth that happens bw libertarians and pro kink and pedo ppl and like everyone else who thankfully tirelessly dismiss and denounce them

Plus victims were supportive of it and I remember their comments and i use that to excuse ever even mentioning it when I shouldn’t have - there’s nothing to discuss

it was also me being bored on the internet and having nothing better to do than ask someone a question i had on hand bc the main discussion was like still open or easily accessible bc I literally just saw it

So I brought it up bc I was possessed by demons and bored

it was pure alienation and it was totally non commital

and i learned not to enter into casual conversation abt things like that bc I never want to think abt it now it kills me and is like a paranoid thought

If I never asked I’d never have this pain of remembering and trying to justify to myself why I would even mention it BC I WASNT ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN THE ARGUMENT FROM THAT SIDE AT ALL

it was formulaic and boredom and circumstance and highly emotional and upsetting shocking topic etc

NO I HAVENT READ MOST OF THIS POST if it needs editing and some of it doesn’t make sense isn’t anything i meant... sorry dk what to say I just can’t bother reading anything i type !!!!

Doesn’t mean any of how it comes out Is anything I meant at all!!!

SORRY THATS JUST THE WAY IT IS

some might think I deserve having ppl think i think things I never did for being this way BUT DOESNT MEAN I EVER THOUGHT OR MEANT THINGS I NEVER DID just bc I typed something that looks like it bc i couldn’t bother to read what it says !!! And if it is indeed what i want to convey and not the opposite of what i want to convey !! I KNOW THAT CAN HAPPEN AND DOES (see example above)

DK WHAT TO SAY OTHER THAN IT DOESNT MEAN SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT MESSED UP WHEN I WAS JUST TYPING AWAY IS WHAT I MEANT OR EVER THOUGHT

SORRY

I just know I don’t mean any of those bad things

Tho i know I am ignorant abt a lot of things and will change my opinion as I learn more

BUT NOT ABT ABUSE I know I’m 100% anti sexual abuse and sexualization and there is nothing to evolve on there

I mean I have a lot to learn about like politics and stuff not sex stuff

Sex stuff i think I am pretty strict on and I have never been anything but what other liberal ppl who are like “safe sane and consensual” (bw adults) are like and now I am against a lot of sex positivity stuff too

And I know that if I could perfectly word everything to be what i mean and never come out not what i mean or worse the opposite

So that it can never be read wrong or opinions IVE NEVER HAD assumed of me

or shit I’ve never done or meant assumed of me

I would

. But i can’t even read what i type / post

I just don’t have it in me

Maybe if my life was different / I didn’t have the extreme stress I do I could calm down and breathe but that’s not my life

I know i don’t mean anything bad, and that I don’t condone abuse and i’ve never done anything worse than watch porn everyone else watches or a lot of ppl have and no it doesn’t make me violent, and I never wanted to do anything in it I was bored and depressed etc, and that I didn’t mean anything by blogging that photo or anything I’ve said wo understanding it, and that I’ve never ever supported pedophiles in my life and the one comment I made abt the one time I asked abt science they were using was not at all meant how it was interpreted by some,

I know I’m a normal person who hasn’t been perfect her whole life but i’ve never condoned abuse and never wanted to always wanted to adjust to new info that something is harmful/bad... and that’s never changed

And I try to improve but don’t have it in me to be perfect or even try at all abt my posts

Maybe in another life i could be more calm

But I just want to die anyway

ANYWAY FEEL FREE TO MENTION TO ME IF I POST SOMETHING THAT HAS SOMETHING QUESTIONABLE THAT I SHOULD LOOK OVER/CLARIFY/REWRITE ETC

It probably isn’t actually anything that i meant and came out bad and I just didn’t read it

[solarpunk-aesthetic]

Just imagine a world full of beautiful stained glass windows which also generate electricity…

[Oxford Photovoltaics]

[thorffour-deactivated20190920]

[clockworktardis]

Photovoltaic bricks and glass are one of my favorite technological advancements and I can’t wait to see buildings covered in the stuff.

[lakdjdjsidj]

Solar panels are ugly!!!

[lakdjdjsidj]

Anyway I never “endorsed” prostitution by saying that Marxists are trying to abolish the need for a reserve army or whatever

And replace it w conscious planning of economic activity

And I still supported the nordic model unquestioningly at the time I made those comments even

If that’s what’s meant by refusing to acknowledge the sexual dynamics of it

Then I wasn’t doing that but i still think the former is more important to the question than the latter tbh and it should at least be acknowledged when criticizing “the left” for supporting prostitution (by which I assume they mean not supporting the nordic model in favor of like decriminalization)

[lakdjdjsidj]

That they should be men (gnc/gay men) instead of iding as women or disidentifying as men

It says something like whether feminine gay males will be femme gay men or trans depends on culture

But agps are not the same thing

And I know about the high rate of minor ftm:mtf that’s growing too.. (see some links in this tag*) that’s like dialectic development but dk what it means

that’s dialectical it went from a low ratio of ftm:mtf minors to a high ratio of ftm:mtf minors

*

“ftm minors significantly outnumber mtf minors (1 source** there are others on other countries too.. another one abt canada and the netherlands think the ** one is finland and sweden or something like that - it says the ratio is changing in several ways - more ftm to mtf when it used to be the other way and more male attracted females than before)

there are many studies that show 80+% of gnc kids don’t end up trans but gay!! they grow out of it.. the numbers are always consistently high

like i said when I looked at blanchard’s twitter like half the posts were against transitioning ftms at least minors idk how they feel about adults

** I’ve posted this elsewhere w the following comments

“o it also has this (didn’t check the reference but it’s a different one from the 3 or so I have seen before (which trans activists claim to have debunked.. and I haven’t looked into it to confirm.. but here’s another one w the same number more or less))

“Of children with even severe gender dysphoria and cross-sex identification, about 85% do not develop a persistent transsexual identity in adolescence (reviewed in [7]).” “

Another thing in there;

“In the past decade, the numbers of referrals to child and adolescent gender identity services have been on the increase across Europe (personal communications in 2013 and 2014 from UK, NL, Spain, Sweden child and adolescent gender identity teams) and in Canada [13]. It is not known whether this represents a true increase in gender dysphoria, lowered thresholds for seeking help for it or perhaps cultural developments that promote the conceptualization of developmental challenges as being rooted in sex and gender.”

[lakdjdjsidj]

They’re not gay men or straight men they could be either one and it’s impossible to tell that’s why they can’t be men

Is another theory I have

That’s the one I believe ... that i figured out much later than when I posted abt the other stuff

they can’t be men bc they dk which one they would be like which one would they be

I wasn’t even going to ever think about this but I started reading the controversy surrounding tmwwbq and then decided to read men trapped in men’s bodies and I think the situation is missing a lot of nuance from radfems

!!!

It just is

[lakdjdjsidj]

Anyway back then I was thinking they’re either straight men alienated from their bodies or the other body by asd or something

Or gay men in the manner I described

So they should be either one of those inalienated

Maybe it will be so under communism but now

I think maybe the reason they can’t just bc gnc men is bc they can’t be either one of those maybe they can’t know

The point being like radical feminists say they should just be men and see themselves as men trying to escape rigid gender roles instead of as women

In this life

And I think the thing they probably can’t get past is not fitting being either straight or gay men maybe so that’s not really useful Besides the fact it seems like the most stereotypical gender attribute they are not conforming to is either sexual role or like anatomy tho gender stereotypes too but looks like being nurturing isn’t one of them

They’re not gay men and they’re not straight men and the issue isn’t that they’re bi or something

that’s why they can’t just be men like radfems would say they should

Is what i’ve finally concluded besides all these other theories

When i saw the prostitution thing I was still like why can’t they be gay men instead of doing this

If they are gay and I know they say they are not and I know it’s bc or phallometry but their phallometric response is highest to um trans women and lowest to um two men so that is why they can’t be gay and that’s fine to me tbh

Still don’t understand where females fit into all this

The fact they continue to date women sometimes doesn’t change the fact of are they actually sexually attracted to them and idk that’s fine too I guess I guess that’s like another weird social custom

I am talking about males who clinicians have experience with over decades.. seeking transition ... Idk if all the trans women who identify as such are one of the two types or even like under the umbrella of agp .. it seems kind of like there are More ppl than that iding as trans but idk

But the clinicians who’ve provided this treatment say there are two types they have seen over the years idk what’s going on now

But there are trans women who are like actually driven to seek sex reassignment and idk if all the trans women who Id as such now are like that but anyway I’m talking about a group of males who are real and share certain characteristics according to clinicians I guess

Like apparently this is extremely rare like less than 1% of the male population and maybe less I don’t remember but there’s stats in men trapped in men’s bodies

Maybe it seems a lot more people are trans online idk

But I also think that doesn’t mean it can’t like expand to more ppl I really dk

I don’t have a problem w them personally like I think they’re fine like um I think it sucks that um for ex women can get in relationships w them wo understanding them and it says in men trapped in men’s bodies they shouldn’t get in long term heterosexual relationships and I think if ppl don’t see the issue there or w lesbians who also don’t want to entertain them.. it’s like wtf

“It may be that long-term heterosexual relationships are inherently problematic for autogynephilic transsexuals. Both men and women, but women especially, want to feel desired by their partners (Brotto, Heiman, & Tolman, 2009). Autogynephilic transsexuals, however, experience a self-directed erotic desire that is “greater than the desire for any person” (Bloom, 2002, p. 94) and is likely to be inimical to interpersonal intimacy and satisfying sexual expression, whether it is concealed from female partners or disclosed to them. It seems to me that severely gender dysphoric autogynephilic men should feel great hesitancy about entering into marriage or long-term committed relationships with women; although such relationships may not inevitably be doomed, many if not most will probably either fail or prove to be highly unsatisfactory. In my opinion, most severely gender dysphoric autogynephilic men would be well advised to forego marriage altogether.

Another theme running throughout the narrative excerpts in this chapter, albeit sometimes only implicitly, was the profound confusion informants felt about their simultaneous experience of heterosexual attraction and autogynephilic desire. Many appeared to have been so confused that they entered adulthood without a firm commitment to either heterosexual relationships or cross-gender expression; others went on to make unfortunate relationship choices that plausibly reflected this same confusion. Making sense of autogynephilic desire and its relationship to heterosexual attraction is inherently challenging, but the almost total absence of self-help resources and role models for young autogynephiles greatly compounds this problem.“

men trapped in men’s bodies

Like there are real needs in terms of like adjusting to these males needs and others needs too

I am fine w them in general like idk like yeah there are other issues too but like I think there can come to be some understanding of how to like coexist fine I don’t think they can just be men in this society at least who knows what will happen in communism

Then there’s the thing where Radfems are right about trans kids bc they grow out of it most of the time and these guys grow into being trans from not exhibiting trans behavior at all except cross dressing?

So they’re trying to be like o the puberty blockers early transition and all that is actually for agps.. If for anyone except they are not at all the kids that are being marketed as transgender in need of those interventions

They’re literally completely gender conforming (masculine) boys who don’t have gid yet when it’s appropriate to transition them before puberty

I don’t know if that like understanding of it will ever become popularized like the understanding of the gnc kids should be transitioned before puberty but

so like yeah there’s like legitimate issues that might come to a head bc or a need to like you know adjust to the reality of transgenderism esp in males, ummmm that is being overlooked by progressives idk why and radfems talk abt it but it’s incomplete and sexologists are different but kind of weird like I think radical feminists do take some like macro perspectives they don’t idk

Um but um ummmmmmm like I don’t think it’s necessarily bad bc like I think from what I have read and seen they will be fine if they know where they’re going and it must be there isn’t any direction for that now

And I don’t have a problem w them and I think they may be trans and that may be best for them

Ummm I don’t have a problem W it tbh having thought through it and read about it and understood it and I think Any conflicts now are bc it’s not figured out what’s best