Podcast On The Red Studio
The David Zwirner Podcast – Inside ‘The Red Studio: Ann Temkin with 6 Artist on Matisse | Special Episode
While listening to the David Zwirner Podcast, I got to hear a special episode about one of Matisse's paintings. The point of the podcast was to get inside the mind of Matisse and analyze what were the reasons behind his decisions. Artists were curious why he used so much venetian red in his painting, The Red Studio, after it had sat still and completed for so long. The topic was explored by numerous conversations amongst various artists.
One of the first artists brought on to the podcast was Rashid Johnson. During his conversation with the interviewer, Ann Temkin, Johnson mainly discusses the idea of a never truly being finished until it is no longer his or published out into world. This serves as Johnson's perspective on Matisse's approach towards his painting.
The next person brought on to the podcast was another painter named Sarah Z. Sarah believed Matisse wanted to do something innovative with his artwork and was very eager to add the venetian red to his painting. She explains this belief by saying that paintings normally tell the artist what needs to be done and she believed that adding color was something Matisse felt needed to be done.
Afterwards, Temkin interviews Caroll Dunham. Dunham thought on the painting was that there likely wasn’t a clear, logical reason for adding red to his painting. Dunham also believes that there was something that moved Matisse to add the red but couldn’t be clearly interpreted by others. In addition, Dunham noted that Matisse may have even been a little baffled by what he had done to his painting, possibly thought it was an awful idea.
Next was a painter named Joe Bradly. While discussing the painting, he stated that adding the red was an odd decision. However, he believed the addition of the color drew more action to the subjects within his painting such as the flowers. Brandly viewed Matisse as an excellent colorist and felt it was good that artwork had a distinct and unfamiliar appearance; the work itself should transcend the artist's imagination.
After hearing from Brandly, Tamkin went to chat with another painter, David Reed. Matisse was saw as a careful man by Reed. He stated that Matisse had spent at least a month contemplating the decision of adding red to his painting. The venetian red also surprised Reed as it was much brighter than he originally thought. Like Joe Bradly, Reed also believed Matisse to be an excellent colorist as he believed the Red Studio was intentionally given the illusion of making the red appear much brighter and saturated than it really was. Simply put, Reed was both impressed and surprised by the work Matisse did on the painting.
Finally, Tamkin interviews Charline Von Heyl, another painter; surprise. It is mentioned by Heyl that Matisse’s decision for adding red likely was cause by the art feeling stale and boring. Heyl believed that adding a color in the style Matisse did was a radical and desperate move that could have either ruin a painting or allowed an artist to evolve and do something innovative. She claims the Red Studio as being one of the most modern paintings in art history. Deep satisfaction was the response Heyl thought Matisse had to the Venetian red. Overall, Heyl thought that adding the red to the Red Studio was an innovative and effective move which turned a representation of space into a picture plane.