I have been thinking a lot about Nero and Kyrie becoming one person inside the Saviour recently and have been incorporating them being registered as the same person in non-visible ways. Sanctus explicitly said that their mortal BODIES would combine inside and i wonder how literal he was being. They still end up as seperate people physically in the end but there is just now something intrinsically tying them together to the point of them being The Same Person to certain supernatural senses
Imagine Sparda doing a lot of brooding when he's home in the mansion and up and about at very late hours because he's a demon and doesn't need as much sleep as the human and half-human residents of the house. Being a thing that wanders his own house's halls at the dead of night, occasionally sneaking into his beloveds' bedrooms to check up on them, sometimes someone would be awake at midnight and he can hear their feet pattering across the floorboards no matter how far into the mansion, he looms right out of their line of sight just to observe them, watching over them like a guardian angel. Maybe Dante and Vergil even as children could sense their father slinking around at night and call him out when he's hiding in the corners, and he'd quickly slip into his human form to greet them. He could occasionally be found making rounds around the mansion and on the rooves, maybe they had a sizeable garden that he'd wander in and the others would sometimes catch glimpses of him wandering there in demon form from the windows. The times where Eva can get him in bed he would often just lay there staring at her as she sleeps, caressing her face gently, and he would be in the same position she left him in when she wakes, waking up to icy blue eyes staring at her is a very common occurrence
I think Nero x Kyrie has a lot more angst & drama potential than people always write for it. It doesn't have to be hetslop guys, they can be bi4bi if you write it, if you believe!!!
But anyway, they're not just a 'typical' couple. I mean let us not forget Kyrie was deeply deeply religious and she fully bought into all of the bullshit the Order offered. Nero was an atheist with about as much religious trauma as you could possibly give someone. And over the course of the game the religion gets exposed for being bullshit, Nero gets revealed to be part demon (ya know... the thing the religion was taught to hate), Nero also gets revealed as 'somehow' related to the god they worshiped in church, Credo fucking dies, and half the country gets destroyed.
That would've been a hell of a lot of revelations for them both-- I mean fuck, Nero was in love with a girl absolutely entrenched in a dogmatic religion he didn't believe in that actively sought to 'exterminate' people like him. And her own trauma with losing her parents was what strengthened both her & Credo's connection to the religion, and then she has to unpack all of that when it gets revealed that the religion was all a crock of shit.
There's so much potential in that!!! Especially when you factor in stuff like the fact that Kyrie is now also an orphan (she's 17/18 in the game as she's a year older than Nero) and aware that Nero is part-demon & she accepts that part of him quickly & seemingly without issue.
I've had a lot of thoughts about how Trish seems to be just as much of a successor of Sparda or at least has a lot of associations with him but never quite have the words to properly encapsulate what i'm thinking. There's just something there in how her arsenal contains the guns he used and the sword that is named after him, how she was modeled after his beloved wife, how she used to serve his previous master and defected same as him, how they're both born demons who grew to learn about and love humanity. There is this Trish section in Deadly Fortune where she's looking at the Hellgates in Fortuna and wondering why Sparda never tore them down himself and thought that, maybe, because he was still a born demon, he would still miss home and thus kept them up. It's such a strange small moment of kind sympathy for the person whose legacy you are surrounded by but never met
I've had a lot of thoughts about how Trish seems to be just as much of a successor of Sparda or at least has a lot of associations with him but never quite have the words to properly encapsulate what i'm thinking. There's just something there in how her arsenal contains the guns he used and the sword that is named after him, how she was modeled after his beloved wife, how she used to serve his previous master and defected same as him, how they're both born demons who grew to learn about and love humanity. There is this Trish section in Deadly Fortune where she's looking at the Hellgates in Fortuna and wondering why Sparda never tore them down himself and thought that, maybe, because he was still a born demon, he would still miss home and thus kept them up. It's such a strange small moment of kind sympathy for the person whose legacy you are surrounded by but never met
Do you think Sparda ever had like a proper job in the human world outside of being The Legendary Dark Knight and, presumably, being a devil hunter. Like it's obvious that his family was loaded, they lived in a mansion and wore fancy clothing, they had Money. But like, where'd all that come from, is someone like paying him to be who he is, or does he have like a proper job. Does he like help manage demon-human relations. I'd also assume that he lived in the human realm for far longer than he had his family (obvi) if Fortuna's anything to go by so he would have plenty of experience of living amongst humans and getting used to their customs, but maybe Fortunans would still let him be a little weirdo because who are they to tell their lord what to do. Does Sparda know how money works
Not only he had jobs but I believe he had many different jobs over the years. We know he would hide his true identity and wanted to mingle with humans. Having a vocation was part of that too.
I believe he liked trying different things. He was a musician, a doctor, an engineer, etc at different points. Two thousands years is a long time and he was a curious little demon.
I'm doing my classic bullshit move of "if i don't know exactly how to progress to a satisfying conclusion, add a new subplot" but instead of a series of taxi driver vignettes it's a fight scene that turns into gore that turns into smut that turns into hurt/comfort and i really don't know if I have an excuse to incorporate "Vergil Sparda is a system and here are the roles of their parts" when the POV character is Dante and Vergil would sooner explode than talk about any of this.
Anyway, headcanon that Vergil Sparda is a system and here are the roles of their parts.
Vergil is plural AF. When they were kids this manifested as disagreements with Dante because Vergil Prime would make plans to play together and V would blow them both off to go read by himself because he didn't feel a responsibility to follow through with what Vergil Prime had agreed to, #relatable.
After the house fire, Vergil Prime never grew up, and gradually retreated deeper and deeper. He's now Vergil's inner child self, frozen with the trauma of the house fire and demon attacks. From V and Vergil Prime's interaction in the Visions of V manga, it looks like Vergil Prime is also the gatekeeper, who determines which parts front when and for what purpose.
As "Vergil" collectively grew up, V did a lot of hosting as the apparently normal part, whose job it was to research, plan, and interact with humans; he wasnāt exactly āV,ā but contained much of what would become V. V and Vergil Prime both blamed V for not being there at the house at the time of the attack.
Nelo Angelo formed during captivity by Mundus. Nelo Angelo has many elements of Vergil Prime, but is stripped of any ambition. He is compliant, and enjoys his job. He has some personal pride but canāt remember shit.
Urizen is what was left over after V cut out all his doubts, fears, traumatic memories, and frivolous interests. Urizen (the demon) contains Vergil Prime, and also the Urizen (the alter), who is the protector of the system and the part that pursues power at all costs. Before being severed from V with the Yamato, the Urizen alter could have been part of V. Now it continues as a new part. Urizen is characterized by lack of inhibition or ego; it is pure problem-solving focus. It serves Vergil Prime, and ignores V. It doesn't have much personality besides ambition.
V, of course, is everything that Vergil Prime and V had believed to be useless: their literary interests, their doubts and fears, their sensory sensitivities, their desire for comfort, their ability to negotiate with humans. Critically, V did the cutting. Vergil (collective) is not a smart man. V post-self-mutilation is very similar to the V who hosted while they were a teenager, before Mundus, but he lacks the ambition that went to Urizen. (If he hadn't been dying, he probably would have just run off somewhere and become an incredibly bitchy librarian.)
Shadow, Griffon, and Nightmare were factives based on Vergil's coworkers/co-prisoners on Mallet Island and served as trauma-holders.
The Doppelganger has a lot of Vergilās whimsy and physical enthusiasm. It serves the group as a release valve. Itās a demonic child alter, basically.
After Vās excursion into the real world, V is no longer the primary host. Urizen is never going back into the toothpaste tube, but he canāt host either. Vergil Prime is never going to front if he has any say; he's a kid.
A new adult Vergil, Vergil III, is the current host. Vergil III doesnāt quite know what heās doing. Heās trying his best to ābe Vergilā and embody the consensus of what the entire system thinks Vergil is like. His main emotional drive is to avoid letting anybody in the system down. Heās performing a high-stakes one-man play for an audience of himself plus Dante. He doesnāt personally have attachment to anybody, but heās trying to be respectful of his other partsā contradictory wishes. He knows that losing Dante would be catastrophic for Vergil Prime, the highest priority part of the system, and V would be frustrated and lonely without him. He's basically getting to know Dante for the first time, while Dante thinks he is getting re-acquainted with Vergil.
While this all sounds very regimented and thought-out, in practice it's very wishy-washy and fluid. If you asked Vergil III about any of this, he would not be able to report anything except a crushing sense of impostor syndrome, which, because he knows Vergil is supposed to be very proud, he would never admit on pain of death.
Fun thought of Vergil being a system and Dante not being one but still experiencing contention between what he percieves as his "human half" and "demon half". Dante describing how the demon inside him tells him to maim and tear and all the violent instincts that are associated with demons and Vergil empathizing with it and being like "Yes, our unique status of hybrids will still lend us to listen to those instincts" while Urizen and V are in the back Kubrick staring at him
Do you think Sparda ever had like a proper job in the human world outside of being The Legendary Dark Knight and, presumably, being a devil hunter. Like it's obvious that his family was loaded, they lived in a mansion and wore fancy clothing, they had Money. But like, where'd all that come from, is someone like paying him to be who he is, or does he have like a proper job. Does he like help manage demon-human relations. I'd also assume that he lived in the human realm for far longer than he had his family (obvi) if Fortuna's anything to go by so he would have plenty of experience of living amongst humans and getting used to their customs, but maybe Fortunans would still let him be a little weirdo because who are they to tell their lord what to do. Does Sparda know how money works
