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Afternoon offering to Loki. Sponge cake, fresh strawberries and whipped cream.

um……what? Strawberry shortcake as an offering? to Loki??? WHAT? needless to say that is absolutely ridiculous in a myriad of ways. *bangs head*

tegidsystem

Not everybody is a reconstructionist, and even for those who are, the lore doesn’t actually give much in the way of prescriptive offerings. Sorry, but I fail to see the problem here, beyond a disrespectful attitude and uninvited commentary towards somebody else’s belief system. -Isto

seidrdom

first off- anyone practicing heathen IS a recon. If you are not reconstructing an ancient worldview than all you are doing is reenacting (or not heathenry). BIG difference. secondly, there is a lot in the lore about offerings- nevertheless the reason WHY we give offerings is more important then the what, yes, but in what way shape or form, is a dessert a fit offering? Once you have the worldview down, then you can offer things of substance. Something you picked up at the supermarket? perhaps not- MAYBE if it was part of a feast, or grown locally, but pretty sure that shortbread and whipped cream came straight from the grocery store. What value does that hold? What sacrifice is that? Monetary? Highly unlikely. It is not disrespectful, its an objective view from someone within the heathen community- if someone posts something on tumblr, a public forum, then it is open to public discretion and comment. And AS a heathen, it would be within heathen worldview to value such perspectives, it helps people grow. This isnt about being recon or not, its about honoring and worshiping in a worthy manner. WORTH, the old word from which WORSHIP comes from. Please explain the worth in strawberry shortcake from the supermarket and its relation to Loki.

hishotandhaywireheart

Just gonna say my piece.

I don’t consider myself a heathen in any way, or part of any organized group. Just a ragged-ended pagan.

I do what feels right. What Loki wants, He gets. Same for any god I follow, or any spirit at all. It doesn’t have to be ~elegant~ or classy food, hell, it can be dollar-store frozen pizza. If He wants it, He’ll get it. And if it’s what I have to offer, and He likes it, then why should any mortal give a fuck what kind of offering it is?

I personally don’t give a shit about trying to act like old Nordic peoples. Hell, I don’t consider Loki a solely Nordic god at all. Yes, the Loki persona comes from that tradition, and it is a good and rich one indeed. But my personal UPG sees Loki as an archetype, and the Norse trickster whose name I use for Him is just one of His many faces.

So if it’s strawberry shortcake He wants, it’s strawberry shortcake He’ll get.

lokisnemandi-deactivated2012091

People telling others what they can and cannot offer Loki…

Last I checked He liked sweets and that looks like something He’d love, so shut your corn hole.

thegreenwolf

Folks. Reality check. You’re arguing over whether a being we can’t even prove exists beyond our own subjective beliefs* would be pissed that someone got him a sugary treat from a grocery store. This is what I left Catholicism for?

*Don’t ask me how to empirically determine the existence of Loki. It probably involves uses of slide rules we mere mortals never considered.

duskenpath

^ THIS

rootandrock

This one time? Himself wanted animal crackers. Witchfather, lord of beasts and the sabbat, wanted Animal Crackers. BAD. It wasn’t “Please get me some the next time you’re buying treats” it was “GO INTO TOWN AND BUY ME THE LARGEST BAG OF ANIMAL CRACKERS THEY HAVE.” “But, Witchfather… Animal Crackers?” I asked, incredulous. “DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCEPT OF HOW DELICIOUS THEY ARE?” He answered. “Well, I mean… I suppose…” “AND SANDWITCH FUCKING BUTTER BETWEEN THEM.”

…. good point, My Half-Beast-Lord… good point indeed.

achangingaltar

Epic commentary is Epic, Rootandrock. I always like to explore traditional offerings, for obvious reasons, but I never shy away from non-conventional offering either.

Even if this was pried from the petrochemical clutches of some heinously cheap, clearance section, plastic grocery store container exactly as we see it, like some magical confection creation that disregards the laws of time and decomposition, it may still hold serious value for the OP. I literally moan when I drink pure cherry juice. Like, I make audible noises without realizing it. It only came to my attention because people were laughing. I would gladly offer cherry juice to any deity regardless of their traditional offerings, because I am saying “This juice. Oh man. This JUICE!!!! I want it. I want it sooo damned bad. But You get it all/first/now. Enjoy!” Maybe this dessert is just as valuable to the OP.

My mother actually hoards a particular kind of pop-tart in her office at work, because she can only find it in the US and doesn’t want us to eat them. She keeps them in a locked drawer in her office. If she were to leave one out as an offering, I would consider it a tremendously more meaningful offering from her than if she lit some incense, or left out a plate of apples and spices. Because she doesn’t give a fuck about those things. These pop-tarts require trips to another country, and she guards them with a freaking lock and key! An offering is a sacrifice; if you are taking something that you could just as easily eat yourself, and enjoy to the point of making audible noises, but instead give it over to the gods, you are sacrificing the physical food, but also your emotional satisfaction in order to please Them.

In summation; My offerings don’t need to please you, they are for my gods!

xxxmistressofmiseryxxx

Heathen, offering, strawberry, shortcake

gettheetoarookery

I had to do a good bit of digging, but I found the Spongecakegate thread I was telling you guys about, @graveskeeper and @hearthly-concerns.

upthewitchypunx

Never forget SpongeCakeGate!

andenheks

All of this.

coldalbion

Considering some African Traditional Religions offer sweets, cigarettes, cigars etc, the whole “buying offerings is bad” thing is bullshit. Hell, Jewish folk would buy offerings for sacrifice at the Temple, historically.

I brew my own Mead, but I also offer single malt, as an Odin’s man. I don’t distil my own whisky. I don’t pick my own tobacco or roll my own cigars for ancestor offerings.

As heathens, all we have is the lore and archaeology. We’ve not got any sense of the ontology or actual lived theology of the ancients. Modern heathenry as we know it has only existed for 40+ years. That’s no time at all, and there are huge gaps. If heathenry is to be anything more than moribund interpretation of historical texts, those gaps must be confronted by interaction with certain philosophical and spiritual realities through practice.

The gods, wights and ancestors shaped the culture that gave rise to the lore. Consulting both is important in construction of a living tradition.

castironjackelope

I was prepared for a nokean vs lokean tumblr squabble, but the comments just kept getting better! Point to lokeans.

gefdreamsofthesea

Never forget Spongecakegate.

msprayforever

theunknownpen

tamarrud

And I'll say this over and over again:

Please understand that Israel has information on where everyone is in Gaza.

They know the names and ages of everyone in a specific building.

I made a post about this before but the noise you constantly hear in the background of videos coming from Gaza is the sound of the zanana, a type of Israeli drone that is watching every move Gazans make.

This is just one way Israel keeps the entire population under constant surveillance. They also use quadcopters and AI to identify their targets.

So when they falsely claim to be targeting a Hamas member and kill a dozen children in the process, they do so knowing.

That's not collateral damage, that's intentional.

After all they killed 4 day old twins in a precision strike. They snipe children in the chest and head. They killed 6 year old Hind knowing she was alone. They aren't oblivious or are making mistakes. Would you call well over 15,000 children deaths in the span of 10 months one giant mess up?

27-moons

American doctor, Mark Perlmutter said that Israeli snipers “deliberately” targeted Palestinian children:

A. All of the disasters I’ve seen, combined; 40 mission trips, thirty years, Ground Zero, earthquakes, all of that combined, doesn’t equal the level of carnage that I saw against civilians, in just my first week in Gaza.

Q. And when you say civilians, is it mostly children?

A. Almost exclusively children, I’ve never seen that before. I’ve seen more incinerated children than I’ve ever seen in my entire life, combined. I’ve seen more shredded children, being crushed by buildings, the greatest majority, or bomb explosions. I’ve taken shrapnel as big as my thumb out of an 8-year-old. And then there’s sniper bullets, I had children that were shot twice.

Q. Wait, you’re saying that children in Gaza are being shot by snipers?

A. Definitively. I have two children that I have photographs of, that were shot so perfectly in their chest I couldn’t put my stethoscope over their heart more accurately. And directly on the side of the head, in the same child, no toddler gets shot twice by mistake by the world’s best sniper, and they are dead centre shots.

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ironshrikes

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peachy-bunster

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moist-astronaut

Send help I’ve been laughing for 15 minutes the internet killed my sense of humor

mildlydisconcertingsparrowhawk

I was expecting exactly that and was not disappointed

He’s so cool

fixed it

Over one hundred Palestinians killed in an Israeli airstrike as they congregated to pray dawn prayers inside a school in Gaza. One hundred killed in a single Israeli airstrike. They were praying. At dawn. Inside of a school turned shelter. This is genocide and you are bearing witness to it. Do with that what you will.