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So that's it. Gabe is going to travel for two months. He thought about his friends, initially about writing to qPAC, but concluded that qPAC would panic and not look for him, so he went to the next option, which was qRoier, and left a note saying that he was being followed and that he might disappear, and left coordinates of where they might be able to find information about his disappearance. I believe he left some rewards there too (probably the engines from the craft/creative itens that he stole because he wanted to do a little lore with it).
Update: I discovered that he actually left something for Pac, Roier, Aldo, and Ash… basically coordinates leading to the creative itens.
I saw some people on Twitter not understanding the trauma that communities have from Purgatory. So I'm going to explain to the newcomers. The first Purgatory was something that happened by surprise, interrupting some lore and altering the course of many things. It was a competition where the CCs were divided into supposedly random groups, although I think it was a strange randomness because basically it was Grinders VS PVP VS Roleplays, and the vast majority in the same group, that is, the people who were better at PVP were in the same group, etc. And Purgatory is similar to a Hunger Games. So it wasn't exactly balanced, so much so that the administrators had to change rules and create extra missions to allow all teams to have an equal chance. But the biggest problem wasn't even that, it was that the first Purgatory was linked to the main lore of the eggs, where it was said that only SOME eggs could be saved by the winning team. The eggs were basically the children of the characters, and the CC spent MONTHS creating systems to keep them alive, because there were attacks, etc., until one day they mysteriously disappeared and it was later discovered that they were in Purgatory. And since the division of the groups wasn't good, some automatically had to force themselves to play in order to have a chance to save an egg, since they didn't know which ones could be saved. So, for example, the red team, Bolas, started out being the most disadvantaged because they only had Philza who knew more about Minecraft, PVP, mods, etc… They were the Roleplayers' team. They had to learn how to play in order to support each other to try to save their eggs since there were no guarantees. So, for example, Foolish was the father of an egg called Leo, and if it was decided that only the parents could get the eggs back, he was the only one left to get Leo, and he was on the least favored team, but they supported each other and that's why they were at least going to try.
One proof of how unbalanced the system was at the beginning was that they were the team that, for a while, had the fewest active people, so to win a day of challenges, they literally spent the entire day collecting resources for the missions, while other teams could do it in less time. And they left it to deliver at the last minute so there was no risk of anyone overtaking them in the percentage ranking, and the final percentages had a minimal difference; literally, with all the effort, they won by 2% more. And they had to do this for two weeks. In short, the event ended up being very stressful, there was toxicity in the communities, with people fighting too, because some said it wasn't fair, others from the other teams said it was, and they even went to the CC chat to bother them. Literally, there were people hating on CC because they stole, I think, a horse, or an NPC, I don't remember… anyway, there were CCs who gave up playing the event altogether and others who left QSMP right after that event. Now, given all the criticism, there was Purgatory 2, where the errors were fixed, the competition was fairer, without lore pressure, it was basically a spin-off that only lasted a week. That's why it was a success. Now, they announced Purgatory 3, and I think people are afraid because, as I said, what really ruined the first one was the extended time and the lore that stressed the players themselves and their communities, because they were kind of forced to play, otherwise, there could be consequences for the eggs. And the fact that we don't know if they're going to make Purgatory 3 connected to the main server lore like the first one, or if it's going to be a spin-off like the second one, worries people.
In conclusion, I am someone who understands those who say they are exaggerating, but since I was present in the first Purgatory, I understand the traumas and concerns. One proof of this is the reaction of each streamer to the announcement; those who participated in the first one don't know if they will participate in this one, and those who participated in the second one were very excited.
So, basically, I was right about the return of Purgatory. Basically, we had merchandise announcements, a new app, information about an open world, Purgatory, and the possibility of new participants joining. However, one thing to consider… the trailer looked like images of the old Quesadila Island, didn't it? I think that's why I saw people theorizing that Purgatory would be on the old island… Honestly, I don't think they're going to do that, I think those were just images to dramatize a bit, but if it really is there… the amount of stuff that could be there, I don't know if the backups have everything saved, but if the items are saved… Cellbit's castle, Ordo Theoritas, everything full of information… Anyway, it would be tragically funny. Now about merchandise, it's basic, they're trying to raise money because, as I said before in other posts, sponsorships have an expiration date, for the server to continue, they have to raise money, and we know that the translator spends a lot.
Yes, it seems that new participants will be announced in the future; we don't know when or who, but it's going to happen.
I know,right? It's still a somewhat worrying topic because it's unclear whether it will be the same as the second game or the first. If they make it like the second, where participation isn't mandatory for CCs, that would be great. Because I believe not everyone wants to play. And there's also this theory that the setting might be on Quesadila Island; it's very confusing.
It's also a bit confusing when this will happen, we also have the World Cup, many CCs will be traveling for the games, being away for more than 40 days.
So, basically, I was right about the return of Purgatory. Basically, we had merchandise announcements, a new app, information about an open world, Purgatory, and the possibility of new participants joining. However, one thing to consider… the trailer looked like images of the old Quesadila Island, didn't it? I think that's why I saw people theorizing that Purgatory would be on the old island… Honestly, I don't think they're going to do that, I think those were just images to dramatize a bit, but if it really is there… the amount of stuff that could be there, I don't know if the backups have everything saved, but if the items are saved… Cellbit's castle, Ordo Theoritas, everything full of information… Anyway, it would be tragically funny. Now about merchandise, it's basic, they're trying to raise money because, as I said before in other posts, sponsorships have an expiration date, for the server to continue, they have to raise money, and we know that the translator spends a lot.
Yes, it seems that new participants will be announced in the future; we don't know when or who, but it's going to happen.
Updates and some theories on QRoier's lore… As I said, it's difficult to say where he'll take this story, but something curious happened yesterday.
When QMike asked if QRoier wasn't married, QRoier replied that it was complicated because his husband (QCellbit) died and abandoned him (in this case, abandoned him because he died). It occurred to me that in another dialogue with QAldo, he admitted that he had already been kidnapped by the Federation and that no one came to get him… so… I would say that he remembers his husband, but that it hurts to remember. But if he remembers the end of purgatory and being kidnapped… what is it that the voice in his head wants him to remember?
I thought about what's most obvious, considering the canonical recordings of the Cintas1 and 2, and I think it's because he told Aldo that he was already kidnapped, meaning that what he has to remember is probably what QDoied did using his body. Which means that Rabbit Island could be canonical in his lore, because that's when QDoied usurped his life. But what happened on Rabbit Island? QCellbit returned and QDoied treated him badly, making him think he wasn't important to QRoier, that he was better off without him.
Now, let's get to the technicalities… Cellbit likes to torment us by saying he died in an explosion, but canonically his character had returned; he only stopped playing because the server had to shut down,and after he start his hiatus. But he even returned in the final event of QSMP1 (Off-stream).
The ending of QSMP1 was a mess due to the problems that occurred, but each CC takes what was canonical for itself. An example is Bagi, who went to another Minecraft series with the same character and said that her twin brother had been kidnapped, but that when she found him again he was living his life, married, etc… and that some bad things happened that caused them to be separated again.
So Roier might want to use what happened on Rabbit Island/Doied in his narrative. But if that happens, then… what will have happened to QCellbit in the narrative that Roier will present? Did he die afterwards? Did the Federation capture him? Maybe Doied did something to him… possibilities still exist. Especially since the only way qCellbit would abandon qRoier would be if he died, was imprisoned, or if qRoier himself asked (and the latter could have happened because QDoied was the one in Roier's body).
I believe Cellbit would allow Roier to use his character, and would even help if Roier asked, to film a scene, because even if Cellbit doesn't play Minecraft, he would still help his friend. After all, he was helping Roier with the production of Cintas 1 and 2.
So, I don't want to get my hopes up too high, because Roier might change something in the lore from the recordings, but he certainly has material to work with. I honestly don't expect a happy ending, but I would like a more coherent ending, both for his story and for the couple's story, since both lores are connected and he wanted to continue it in QSMP2.
I think I've discovered another reason why Cellbit isn't in this edition of QSMP: He's also moving to a new apartment. Recently, I believe Quakity said that many guests didn't accept to participate in this edition also because they wouldn't have time. Cellbit said he would only play Minecraft to interact with people, because in general he doesn't really like building. But if he felt like playing, he would. But in this last live stream, he said that he's moving due to problems with the apartment's ceiling; they're going to a smaller, temporary apartment until the new apartment is really ready.
So I think that also contributed to him not being able to participate in this edition, because if he's moving, maybe we'll be without live streams for a while longer. Not to mention that the current live streams are of simpler games; he's not starting any big series, if you think about it.
And before anyone says he'll never play Minecraft again, I'd like to say that he once said he'd never play Subnautica again, and here he is, playing Subnautica 1 so he can play Subnautica 2 when it's released in a few days. So, I've learned not to have expectations, but not to doubt.
I've seen people on Twitter finding what appears to be an official Eye of Purgatory (The Watcher) account, and already theorizing that Purgatory 3 will happen, and today the Federation worker said so.
My two cents: It's VERY likely there will be something about Purgatory in the not-too-distant future. Aldo won the last one, and other characters have more traumas and lore with Purgatory because that's where they lost everything, family and friends, sanity… so I wouldn't doubt it. And with Purgatory, I have many theories, but I don't want to jump to conclusions. The only thing I have to say is that it would make sense considering what they did with QAldo, even QRoier…. Anyway, if the event happens, I hope it's not as stressful as the first one. The second one happened in parallel to the main server, without commitment to the lore, it was just a competition, so… at first glance, it makes sense because it wasn't as stressful as the first one. The first one involved A LOT of lore; the characters were playing because they wanted their eggs back, not because they wanted to compete and win. It was mandatory to get their children back. And that's where a lot of other lore ended up dying, as well as beloved characters.
That's why whenever Purgatory is mentioned, I'm afraid of where it's going.
Tbf we haven't had any actual confirmation that the current islanders will be put through a full purgatory
The bad thing being mentionned could be related instead to the new people they have been saying will be added to the server
I could resonnably see the current islanders being sent to egg island to retrieve the new players for exemple, or the new players doing a mini-purgatory before being put on the main island and having to adjust back to normal life
Because i can't see how they would be able to be split in equal number teams without the current interpersonal lore being looked over? Or maybe that could be a part of the experience, like in-team infighting? But i feel like that would defeat the purpose of the purgatory teams pitting people who like eachother against eachother?
Idk, i feel like everyone's lore isn't in a place that would be conducive to a good purgatory experience (even if only for the viewers), like Aldo's Eren arc maybe could be incorporated, but Multi's whole shit with Haiper and Fariis and Shappo and Quackity would need to be put on pause and maybe fully abandoned depending on how purgatory ends, which would suck concidering how much has been invested into it
Idk i'm just rambling atp, but i don't think we'll be getting purgatory in the same way we've had it either of the last times
That's why I said that if they were to make a third one, which is a chance, they would have to plan well how to interweave the story. But that also ties in with the fact that people are creating personal lore faster, most of them now at the beginning. I think it's not impossible, depending on how they present Purgatory. I also believe that this could be a way to add people to the server, as you said, having them participate in Purgatory and then everyone being sent back to the island, but there's also a chance that no one will return to the island, it could be that this season ends in Purgatory. The environment/scenario of Purgatory itself is an environment where you can create lore in addition to competition, they would just have to balance it so as not to make it stressful. Or maybe there's no competition at all, it's just something related to the setting and the characters of purgatory.
Ooooooh a season end in purgatory would be crazy!! /pos
And true, if they don't go as hard on the competition element, and just use the harsher living conditions to make the characters more volatile for example, it would be a really cool way to have them make lore in a more dangerous place where the stakes are higher (so blowing shit up is actually impactful for example)
Thinking specifically of Aldo's lore, it would be a really interesting way to make the world more war torn and unstable in the way that would be conducive to where he's at in his Eren arc (if he wants to continue loosely following along the anime)
And then for Multi's lore (Aldo and him are the biggest reaching storyline atm imo), it'd be facinating to see him be spared from the worst of it so he can instead use it to collaborate with the feds/watchers and experiment on everyone on a larger scale. Or even just having his chipped ppl work for him regardless of teams or anything in a way that breaks the trust of their original factions even more
I hadn't though of them lessening the competition aspect of purgatory, so ty for pointing it out, it would be a really cool way to reuse egg island without actually making the ccs and the fandom go through the genuinely unpleasant parts of the first purgatory
As we saw in Purgatory 2, Egg Island has unexplored areas, places similar to laboratories, facilities… ElQuacky was there with the Eye. Cellbit and Baghera were in another facility, similar to a bunker. So, yes, I think it's a place where many scenarios can still be explored, ignoring the competition. We know that the Eye doesn't work for the Federation, they are more like partners, like a large corporation with different partners. And as we saw in lore like Fit, Cellbit, Baghera, etc… there are SEVERAL islands. This current island, nobody knows which one it is, but it doesn't seem to be Quesadila Island.But assuming this season doesn't last as long because we don't know how much sponsorship the series received, they could finish the lore in Purgatory and maybe announce Purgatory 3 after that and have the competition again.The possibilities are many; it's not impossible to do something that doesn't disrupt anyone's lore.
I've seen people on Twitter finding what appears to be an official Eye of Purgatory (The Watcher) account, and already theorizing that Purgatory 3 will happen, and today the Federation worker said so.
My two cents: It's VERY likely there will be something about Purgatory in the not-too-distant future. Aldo won the last one, and other characters have more traumas and lore with Purgatory because that's where they lost everything, family and friends, sanity… so I wouldn't doubt it. And with Purgatory, I have many theories, but I don't want to jump to conclusions. The only thing I have to say is that it would make sense considering what they did with QAldo, even QRoier…. Anyway, if the event happens, I hope it's not as stressful as the first one. The second one happened in parallel to the main server, without commitment to the lore, it was just a competition, so… at first glance, it makes sense because it wasn't as stressful as the first one. The first one involved A LOT of lore; the characters were playing because they wanted their eggs back, not because they wanted to compete and win. It was mandatory to get their children back. And that's where a lot of other lore ended up dying, as well as beloved characters.
That's why whenever Purgatory is mentioned, I'm afraid of where it's going.
Tbf we haven't had any actual confirmation that the current islanders will be put through a full purgatory
The bad thing being mentionned could be related instead to the new people they have been saying will be added to the server
I could resonnably see the current islanders being sent to egg island to retrieve the new players for exemple, or the new players doing a mini-purgatory before being put on the main island and having to adjust back to normal life
Because i can't see how they would be able to be split in equal number teams without the current interpersonal lore being looked over? Or maybe that could be a part of the experience, like in-team infighting? But i feel like that would defeat the purpose of the purgatory teams pitting people who like eachother against eachother?
Idk, i feel like everyone's lore isn't in a place that would be conducive to a good purgatory experience (even if only for the viewers), like Aldo's Eren arc maybe could be incorporated, but Multi's whole shit with Haiper and Fariis and Shappo and Quackity would need to be put on pause and maybe fully abandoned depending on how purgatory ends, which would suck concidering how much has been invested into it
Idk i'm just rambling atp, but i don't think we'll be getting purgatory in the same way we've had it either of the last times
That's why I said that if they were to make a third one, which is a chance, they would have to plan well how to interweave the story. But that also ties in with the fact that people are creating personal lore faster, most of them now at the beginning. I think it's not impossible, depending on how they present Purgatory. I also believe that this could be a way to add people to the server, as you said, having them participate in Purgatory and then everyone being sent back to the island, but there's also a chance that no one will return to the island, it could be that this season ends in Purgatory. The environment/scenario of Purgatory itself is an environment where you can create lore in addition to competition, they would just have to balance it so as not to make it stressful. Or maybe there's no competition at all, it's just something related to the setting and the characters of purgatory.
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I've seen people on Twitter finding what appears to be an official Eye of Purgatory (The Watcher) account, and already theorizing that Purgatory 3 will happen, and today the Federation worker said so.
My two cents: It's VERY likely there will be something about Purgatory in the not-too-distant future. Aldo won the last one, and other characters have more traumas and lore with Purgatory because that's where they lost everything, family and friends, sanity… so I wouldn't doubt it. And with Purgatory, I have many theories, but I don't want to jump to conclusions. The only thing I have to say is that it would make sense considering what they did with QAldo, even QRoier…. Anyway, if the event happens, I hope it's not as stressful as the first one. The second one happened in parallel to the main server, without commitment to the lore, it was just a competition, so… at first glance, it makes sense because it wasn't as stressful as the first one. The first one involved A LOT of lore; the characters were playing because they wanted their eggs back, not because they wanted to compete and win. It was mandatory to get their children back. And that's where a lot of other lore ended up dying, as well as beloved characters.
That's why whenever Purgatory is mentioned, I'm afraid of where it's going.
Someone pointed something out in another post of mine, saying that it seems like they're rushing the lore development much more than they did before in the first QSMP… I wonder if it's because the main lore will be coming soon and maybe they won't be able to do more. It would make sense if the server had a main lore, and I think it will, the administrators would focus on it, right? So personal lore might not receive as much attention as it does now, unless the lore has some connection to the main lore. I've also heard some CCs saying that they have to take advantage now, that "dark days are coming," that kind of thing… A new batch of people might also join, but often that involves the main lore, like when The Jaidens needed to find the chamber of frozen people, where QTubbo and the others were.
People think QSMP will never end. I believe that maybe it will continue to have seasons, but that means yes, the season needs an ending, especially because it's expensive, and sponsorship isn't easy to maintain. I think that's why some have theorized that it would only be a 4-month server, because the period of a sponsored Minecraft series is at least 4 months (t could end there, or it could last a little longer.). Tell me, what theories and information do you have about the QSMP situation?
My guess is that there is a set end date for the server season that the ccs are aware of and they’re trying to make the lore fit in that timeframe. I’m pretty sure some of the ccs have mentioned a set number of months before, which is probably when it will end
Well, that would explain a lot about why there are so many quick personal lore updates. I saw people theorizing on Twitter that maybe the next batch of people will arrive at the end to announce a new season, not that they will continue on the server with the others, as if it were a kind of continuation/pause. Which is a curious but interesting theory. Now, it seems that the CC have already let some things slip, but I don't know how truthful it would be.
That would make sense, especially for power scaling. I know they were facing an issue on the first Qsmp where it was really hard for newer players to “catch up” and achieve the same level of items as the first few groups without serious grinding (I’m pretty sure that’s why they made the new map and stuff when the Germans and Koreans joined)
I think that when they end the season, they’re going to announce the opening of a public server along with whatever lore event they do. Mainly because the official website and app already teases a public server opening, so it seems like the next step (however idk when that will be because of the MASSIVE amount of logistics and resources required for that to be pulled off)
Yes, I believe that's why the previous reset (Bunny Island) was for that reason, although it wasn't handled very well, right? In fact, it's an ambitious project, but if it does happen, the main lore will probably be linked to this announcement, so again, it makes sense that personal lore is being created now because it won't be able to deviate from the "script" in the future.
Someone pointed something out in another post of mine, saying that it seems like they're rushing the lore development much more than they did before in the first QSMP… I wonder if it's because the main lore will be coming soon and maybe they won't be able to do more. It would make sense if the server had a main lore, and I think it will, the administrators would focus on it, right? So personal lore might not receive as much attention as it does now, unless the lore has some connection to the main lore. I've also heard some CCs saying that they have to take advantage now, that "dark days are coming," that kind of thing… A new batch of people might also join, but often that involves the main lore, like when The Jaidens needed to find the chamber of frozen people, where QTubbo and the others were.
People think QSMP will never end. I believe that maybe it will continue to have seasons, but that means yes, the season needs an ending, especially because it's expensive, and sponsorship isn't easy to maintain. I think that's why some have theorized that it would only be a 4-month server, because the period of a sponsored Minecraft series is at least 4 months (t could end there, or it could last a little longer.). Tell me, what theories and information do you have about the QSMP situation?
My guess is that there is a set end date for the server season that the ccs are aware of and they’re trying to make the lore fit in that timeframe. I’m pretty sure some of the ccs have mentioned a set number of months before, which is probably when it will end
Well, that would explain a lot about why there are so many quick personal lore updates. I saw people theorizing on Twitter that maybe the next batch of people will arrive at the end to announce a new season, not that they will continue on the server with the others, as if it were a kind of continuation/pause. Which is a curious but interesting theory. Now, it seems that the CC have already let some things slip, but I don't know how truthful it would be.
Someone pointed something out in another post of mine, saying that it seems like they're rushing the lore development much more than they did before in the first QSMP… I wonder if it's because the main lore will be coming soon and maybe they won't be able to do more. It would make sense if the server had a main lore, and I think it will, the administrators would focus on it, right? So personal lore might not receive as much attention as it does now, unless the lore has some connection to the main lore. I've also heard some CCs saying that they have to take advantage now, that "dark days are coming," that kind of thing… A new batch of people might also join, but often that involves the main lore, like when The Jaidens needed to find the chamber of frozen people, where QTubbo and the others were.
People think QSMP will never end. I believe that maybe it will continue to have seasons, but that means yes, the season needs an ending, especially because it's expensive, and sponsorship isn't easy to maintain. I think that's why some have theorized that it would only be a 4-month server, because the period of a sponsored Minecraft series is at least 4 months (t could end there, or it could last a little longer.). Tell me, what theories and information do you have about the QSMP situation?
Also, again, no hate or rivalry intended, but is it just my impression, or do people on this second server break down very easily under psychological pressure? As I said, I don't want to create rivalry, but the server started recently and many are already losing their sanity, especially the newcomers. In the first QSMP, it seemed that the Islens had much more resistance and self-control, even with the Federation in play, they were VERY united. Now it seems that despite everything, they protect themselves a lot in large groups, the North and the Regime, and both claim to be relatively against the Federation, but they always end up figthing with each other. I don't know, I think the Federation will win this easily.
It's in these moments that Ordo Theoritas is missed. The haters will say no, but QCellbit was really very organized with leadership, and he was (or still is) a VERY resistant character to Federation torture, even when he started to go insane, he had more self-control than many of today's newcomers. He actually hurt the Federation more than his friends and family. And again, it's without hate or rivalry, but I stopped to watch Roier all day today and tried to learn about Aldo, Juan, and everyone else… In short, there's a risk that the characters will kill each other first before they can reach the Federation.
P.S. I would give anything for QAldo and QCellbit to interact, they literally have a lot in common.
Since I saw many new people interested in Gabe today, here's some information about the cubito: QGabe is generally a person who likes to help, be helpful, and avoid confrontations. As you saw today, he made an avocado toast farm for QRoier as a peace offering. But he's still cunning, a bit chaotic, so he doesn't accept being called a thief and denies it to the death. He also makes questionable decisions if it benefits him, meaning he would work for the Federation. (In fact, I even think he's considered this with Tomate, I believe so. And as we all know, people on the island have problems with the Federation… so they're already seeing the problem this could cause.) I guess he has a strong ADHD, so it's difficult for him to understand some things, especially lore that requires thinking, so he's always moving and often prefers to be alone. He's very playful and intelligent when it comes to technical things, like create, etc.
I don't know about his lore because I don't know if CC plans to do anything at the moment. I think he's just exploring the mod, the technical aspects of the game, and helping people. Maybe in the future he'll do something, when he feels comfortable.
(I know he was talking to the admins about maybe doing something small to justify the trip he'll be taking soon.)