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I made a post speculating more about introverted functions and the difficulty of putting them in words, and I made a note that my thoughts on Ti are heavily based on my own experience rather than being based on speculation, and to back it up I partially described what those experiences were, but then I took the post down in a hurry because no one cares about that you stupid freak, and I probably did it way too lazily, self centeredly skimming over it as if people could read my mind when it probably wouldn’t make sense to anyone who doesn’t know me

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theres someone that someone i’m following reblogs from that has a grudge against Ti but personally i have such a frucking grudge against Fi, especially when used by xxTJs that have emotional motivations that they don’t know they have, allowing them to remain convinced of their own correctness and objectivity. it is truly the worst thing, not even exaggerating. 

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I genuinely believe that adulthood begins when you realize that your [experiences/feelings/logic/predictions/moral code/whatever] are not universal and that you need to explain them in a way that makes sense to others rather than sulk because you’re misunderstood.

Copying this here instead of reblogging the whole post, just because this little nugget right here is too useful. A metric for “which of your functions are introverted” that I don’t think I’ve considered before but which actually makes crazy amounts of sense.

(the rest of the post was advice specific to ISTJ+ENTP)

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Just to address a couple things, this is the study with almost a million participants that found the oft-cited frequencies: www(.)capt(.)org/products/examples/20025HO(.)pdf On the whole IQ thing, it's pretty well documented that intuitives typically have higher cumulative scores. Here're a couple well-conducted studies. ;D asm(.)sagepub(.)com/content/3/3/225(.)short psych(.)wisc(.)edu/henriques/papers/Sak(.)pdf

Thanks!

For those who don’t like reading: the first link is little more than an abstract (https://www.capt.org/products/examples/20025HO.pdf) and it starts out with an unsupported assumption (at least in the abstract) that intuitives and introverts are overrepresented in “educational institutions”. I’m going to see if I can track down the stated forms and the cited papers there because there isn’t much there.

The second link, at least as I typed it with the parentheses removed, was broken but it looks like it might be this: http://psych.wisc.edu/henriques/papers/Sak.pdf

It’s getting late and the second paper is a complete one so I’ve bookmarked it for more analysis later (probably not for a while as I need to critique a different scientific paper for class this week, and that one affects my grades and such, so it’s going to take priority). Three things that jumped out: 

First, that while introverts are more represented in the gifted group than in the control, the introvert/extrovert split is about 50-50 even in the gifted group, which I found interesting.

Second, the NPs made up 50% of the gifted group (slightly more ENxPs than INxPs, slightly more ENFPs than ENTPs) so if you’re in a gifted and talented class, according to this study, more of your classmates are ENFPs than any other type.

Finally, I’ll just quote the study directly: 

Also:

So, in conclusion: There do exist sources (thanks again anon!) and the one that has actual discussion of statistics and methodology warns us that the study should be interpreted with caution, and that we can cautiously interpret said study as indicating type and IQ test are correlated for school children in grades 6-12 (primarily 8th graders taking the Johns Hopkins Center for Gifted Youth SAT test).

With that in mind I change my controversial opinion on the IQ test (which, for the above qualifications, was incorrect) to “type and intelligence are not correlated.”

[anonymousintp]

This survey is intended to be analyzed for correlations between multiple personality tests.

Master Personality Typology Survey

I made a survey for multiple popular personality tests (e.g. MBTI, enneagram, Big5, Hogwarts Houses), so I can analyze the correlations. Please fill it in and reblog as much as you can.

Survey link

Updates: The deadline is extended until the end of Feb. I decided to get a paid account anyway since I can’t get enough responses for the analysis to be useful in the short time frame the trial account permits. We need more people of every type, especially sensors and extraverts. If you have friends of these types, send the survey their way :D

-eilamona

[anonymousintp]

The survey is still ongoing. Thank you for everyone who has participated so far. We have 1,137 responses in total. However, ideally, I want to get at least 100 responses for each type, so that the data will be considered more valid. Only INxx and ENTP reached the target so far. The more people we can get, the better, since most people answered “I don’t know/Unsure” to most other personality theories.

Please keep sharing the survey!

Note: Do not submit the survey more than once because it will reduce the data’s validity.

Thank you,

-eilamona

I’m tagging all extraverts and sensors I know. Sorry if you have already done it, but I’d appreciate if you could pass it to your friends. @esfjblog @arctic-istp @ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is @entpshit @mbtiguy @funkymbtifiction @random-esfp @entj-girl @femaleentj @visceration @fangirl-istp @numberoneintjfangirl @type-unboxed @myersandbriggs @intj-confessions @intp-entj @isfjwallflower @enfp-musings @mbtipartyblog @adventuresinenfpness @diaryofanenfj @enfj-squad @istpandothermbtitypes @everythingsensor

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I’ve taken this - E and S types, you’re needed!

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here we have some actual data that can’t just be explained by “fake Ni” - INTPs and INFPs are also atthe top of the list

so maybe, just maybe, introverts and inutivies really are more common in certain groups

maybe the witch hunt for fake INxJs isn’t all it’s cracked up to be

[fuliajulia]

The Types as Random Unicode

ESFJ - ⚓

ISFJ - ☔

ENTP - ☣

INTP - ⚗

ENFJ - ⚜

INFJ - ⛵

ESTP - ⚡

ISTP - ⚔

ENTJ - ♚

INTJ - ☭

ESFP - ⛱

ISFP - ☕

ESTJ - ⚖

ISTJ - ☸

ENFP - ☘

INFP - ⛅

[ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is]

I’M ON A BOAT

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this was too cute not to reblog

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Why your type is sexy

ENTJ: you are usually perceived as confident in your thoughts and actions, you know what you’re doing and go into it without questioning, you’re calculated, and usually quite charismatic.

INTJ: You’re meticulous and observant, you work hard and play harder and people love that mystery of your very detached presence, something about you is both fully present and other worldly.

ENTP: You’re witty, charismatic, and novel. You’re like a flame and people are drawn to you. You have a sharp and piercing humor that is so magnetizing. You know how to persuade and are usually very smooth.

INTP: you’re lowkey, dreamy and so interesting. Something about your independence and aloofness is so interesting and people want to know the way you’re thinking, or what you’re thinking about at all.

ESTJ: You have a commanding presence, something strong and secure and people wish they could handle anything thrown at them the way you do, you’re in control, and it’s hard to miss you with all that confidence.

ISTJ: You have a natural rhythm and go with your own flow, it’s insanely intoxicating. You have an air of structure and intensity, you’re willpower is undeniable, and your thoughts are like wildfire.

ESTP: You ooze tactile, and touch, something about your very down to earth and hands on persona is so tantalizing, you’re so full of passion and willpower, it’s hard not to find you sexy at all.

ISTP: Enigmatic, Aloof, brooding, with a lowkey childlike humor is very intriguing you’re hard to miss, and something about your handiwork is beyond magnetizing, You’re an old soul and child in one. 

ENFJ: You’re a warm, and uplifting spirit. Like the sun, you radiate certainty in yourself and something about your devotion to those you love is so incredibly attractive, you can’t be missed.

INFJ: You have a natural refinement and elegance to you, you have a beautiful presence of peace and wisdom and mystery. People want to know what you know, they want to get into your head.

ENFP: You radiate positivity, charm and electricity, your youthful need for adventure and possibility are contagious and you are so magnetic and sensational because of it. 

INFP: You feel so deeply and ardently, you get swept into a dream world that others only wish they can touch. You’re full of romance, and saccharine that so many people feel drawn to your vulnerability.

ESFJ: You are warmth, and generosity, something about your need for beauty and harmony is beyond desirable. You create a haven of light and love and are so sensual it’s beyond sexy.

ISFJ: Your discreet charm, and smitten smile is beyond attractive, you are tender hearted, but have this hidden strength that others can feel. They love your shelter and you radiate this intense love of sensuality.

ESFP: You are radiant, glowing with excitement and vivacity. Your inner strength and pure willpower are unbelievably attractive and admirable, you have this earthy, “I know what I’m doing” vibe.

ISFP: Your shyness hides this intense need for physical action and connection. Your independence and ethereal mystery create this atmosphere of depth and raw love of pleasure. You breathe sex appeal.

[highonmbti]

Extraverted Feeling (Fe) vs. Introverted Feeling (Fi)

Both Fe and Fi make decisions using criteria related to people (e.g. emotions, group dynamics, identity concept, etc). However, the difference between them boils down to this: when making decisions, Fe uses the external world as a reference, while Fi references its internal world.

What does this mean? 

Fe: Since Fe is oriented toward the external world, it is concerned primarily with its relationship with others. Healthy Fe is naturally concerned with harmony, cooperation, sharing, and group dynamics. This doesn’t mean that Fe is identity-less or gandhi-like per say, it just means that the primary factor it considers in its decision making is other people (in a good or bad way). Also, since it is oriented outward, high Fe users tend to be more comfortable or inclined to display their emotions outwardly.

Fi: Since Fi is oriented toward the internal world, it is concerned primarily with its relationship with the self. Healthy Fi is concerned with personal values, introspection, and inner harmony. This doesn’t mean that Fi is selfish necessarily, because selflessness could be one of Fi’s chosen values. Fi users can be very concerned with how their actions affect other people, but their concern would stem from a deeply held belief one should treat people kindly. Also, since Fi is oriented inward, high Fi users tend to be more guarded about showing their emotions to others.  

Here are some further comparisons: 

Fe believes morality is objective, while Fi believes it is subjective.

Fe seeks harmony, while Fi seeks authenticity.

Fe talks about emotions to understand them, while Fi talks about emotions to validate them.

Fe asks “how will others react?”, while Fi asks “what feels right to me?”.

Fe empathizes by feeling the emotions of others, while Fi does so by relating to other’s emotions.

Fe is often perceived as “fake”, while Fi is perceived as “selfish.”

Fe is interpersonal, Fi is intrapersonal.

Fe is emotionally expressive, Fi is emotionally intense.

Fe longs to be accepted, while Fi longs to be understood.

Unhealthy Fe is manipulative or inconsiderate, while unhealthy Fi is stubborn or narcissistic.

Inferior Fe fears offending others accidentally, while inferior Fi fears being held back by emotion.

Fe users: ESFJ, ENFJ, ISFJ, INFJ (higher), ESTP, ENTP, ISTP, INTP (lower)

Fi users: ISFP, INFP, ESFP, ENFP (higher), ISTJ, INTJ, ESTJ, ENTJ types (lower)

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some thoughts: from the perspective of an high-Fe user, calling it “fake” doesn’t even really make sense; using Fe comes naturally to them. If empathy means feeling the same feeling as someone else, then the emotions of the Fe user ARE really felt, they just have an external source. (Maybe I can’t tell how much is me and how much is you, but it’s still a real thing felt by someone regardless. And the Fe-based desire for harmony is a genuinely felt desire; the resulting behavior may be perceived as fake but the basic desire is very real.)

So a better comparison is, Fe can be sometimes be perceived as manipulative or even domineering.

(on the other hand, you can also view Fi’s reputation as “selfish” as: everyone is motivated by their emotions whether they realize it or not, Fe has that extra step of going in from the social environment to you but the thing that motivates your own behavior is still the mirrored emotions that manifest themselves in you. So neither feeling function can really be said to be more selfish than the either, it’s just a matter of which direction it flows.)

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BLOG LIST: READ ME

Hey everyone! The blog list is all queued and will be posting over the next few days.

As an expansion of the admittedly boring disclaimer, if your blog on first glance (read: your most recent few posts as of this weekend) had a bunch of non-MBTI or personality stuff, I did not include it. While I would have loved to have done a deep dive into every single blog, time is a flat circle finite resource. 

ALSO: I decided to put most relationship-focused/multiple-mod blogs at the end, along with some general resources, so if you blog a lot about a mixed-type relationship or you have multiple mods, you might be on there.

If your blog was not included, for any reason (is a sideblog, had a bunch of non-MBTI posts this weekend, is normally a personal/mixed fandom blog but you still want the MBTI community to know you’re out there, or the very real risk that I had planned to include you and accidentally closed your blog’s tab before transcribing your url) please reblog.

If you want to follow more blogs for a certain type: check the reblogs for that type’s post. 

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I considered myself to be infj for the longest time, and now after all the Si/Ni/mistyping posts I’m considering that I might actually be isfj. Not sure if I should be included in the list. (this is a sideblog, btw)

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Why are the iNtuitives divided between Thinking and Feeling (Rationals, Idealists) while the Sensors are divided between Judging and Perceiving? (Guardians, Artisans)

cuz keirsey really liked NTs and grouped people by behavior as opposed to cognitive functions. I don’t really like the way Keirsey grouped stuff, because it doesn’t really make sense to me. 

I find it easier just to group them by judging function or percieving so The NPs, NJs, SJs, and SPs OR the TPs, FPs, TJs, and FJs

[ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is]

Names for the new more consistent groups because judging Keirsey’s inconsistencies is my hobby.

NPs: The brainstormers

NJs: The futurists

SJs: The archivists

SPs: The improvisers

TPs: The analysts

FPs: The individualists

TJs: The achievers

FJs: The mediators

Alternately you may refer to either the SJs or the TJs as The Coolest People You’ll Ever Meet.

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very nice names

[infj-mbti]

Myers Briggs First Impressions

ISTJ: put together, reserved, serious, judgmental

ISFJ: level-headed, sweet, submissive, overly cautious

INFJ: kind, reflective, withdrawn, overly sensitive

INTJ: intelligent, serious, impersonal, aloof

ISTP: independent, down-to-earth, undiplomatic, disconnected from others

ISFP: unique, carefree, overly sensitive, close-minded

INFP: dreamy, caring, spacey, overly sensitive

INTP: rational, pensive, critical, isolated

ESTP: fun, confident, superficial, aggressive 

ESFP: entertaining, spontaneous, vapid, superficial

ENFP: charming, enthusiastic, thoughtless, unreliable

ENTP: innovative, energetic, insensitive, scatterbrained

ESTJ: direct, confident, aggressive, unfeeling

ESFJ: friendly, helpful, bossy, controlling

ENFJ: energetic, diplomatic, unrealistic, overly sensitive

ENTJ: put together, ambitious, intimidating, aggressive

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the alternate way to exercise your Ti: watch this video

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interestingly, these videos may be a place where INTP-ness and ISTJ-ness overlab. it seems to be ISTJs that like to take a scientific approach to things (with testing and recording every case, and so on), and usually INTPs (or ENTPs) that would come up with a totally wild puzzle like “beat the game in as little A presses as possible”

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the alternate way to exercise your Ti: watch this video

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that post is such a good resource, and I think that’s what I’ll take for my definition of Ni and Ne. Ni converges, Ne diverges.

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using this function post to examine myself:

Fe - this function comes as naturally to me as breathing (this doesn’t mean being good at it though... just that it’s easy)

Fi - I use it a decent amount, but it can be hard at times because knowing what I (separate from anything else) can be hard

Te - the biggest scariest and hardest function

Ti - I'm not as skilled at it as a Ti-dom/aux would be, but I'm pretty good at applying Ti when it pertains to a particular interest

Ne - "Make a bucket list of things you could do in your life that excite you" this does seem like something that could help me out of the depressive rut I'm in... and I do like going on spontaneous adventures with friends, as long as they're nice gentle happy adventures (instead of crazed party ventures or something)

Ni - this function doesn't sound too foreign... also sounds like the "describe this unfamiliar charcter" game (I'm not the best at coming up with funny/interesting descriptions though). I like to know what's going on beneath the surface, and it's always satisfying when you can come up with a concise way to sum up a forming theory

Se - I use Se a little bit, to the extent of things like noticing pretty things outside, but deeper application like "experience life as it is happening around you" and "take things for as they are, and not [] overanalyze anything"? that's incredibly hard for me. so very hard.

Si - this is something that I'm considering that yeah, I think it would be good for me to develop further, whether it's ""really"" my type or not. (creating a routine in my life is so hard... although for the purposes of function theory, sleeping in and using tumblr all day counts as a comfortable routine...)

[infj-mbti]

How to Develop the Functions

Here are some tips to strengthening each of the eight functions. I would suggest strengthening the weaker functions in your stack primarily, and put less focus in on your shadow functions. If you are in a loop, this can be used to develop your auxiliary function. You can also use it to generally develop your tertiary and especially inferior functions if these are weak. Having a developed inferior function can also help prevent you from falling into “the grip”, so it’s good to try to have a good control over all of your functions. 

Extroverted Feeling (Fe): Find a close friend and share how you’re feeling with them. Journal about your feelings and read them over to yourself or someone else. Talk to a therapist if these outlets aren’t enough for you. Reach out a hand to help others out: volunteer, give someone advice, listen to someone talk about their problems. Find groups of people or situations where you can put yourself in the shoes of others so you can develop your empathy skills. Find situations where you are around those you care about. Ask others their opinions on decisions that affect others, and take time before you take action to consider how it will affect the people around you. Ask for affirmation from those closest to you, and remind yourself to give it to others as well. Examine the facial expressions and manners of speaking of those around you and try mimicking them.

Introverted Feeling (Fi): Study an area of morality and ethics that interests you, and consider what your viewpoints on the situation are. Consider why humans as a whole or other people in your life do the things that they do, and how morality as a concept even exists. Consider social justice arguments and find one that you have a strong opinion on. Take time to step back and consider how you are feeling, what values you are exerting, what your likes and dislikes are in a certain situation. Consider yourself as an independent, unique individual with a set of morality outside of society. Journal about your feelings. Think about what is important to you in your life and what motivates you personally.

Extroverted Thinking (Te): Try to develop your ability to be assertive: ask for that raise, propose something ambitious, etc. Formulate your ideas into a concrete plan and share them with someone around you. Use data and facts to back up your assertions. Plan an event or other project and focus on the whole over the details. Remember that external organization and structure is necessary in a society, and try to incorporate your skills and plans into one around you. Develop your aura of confidence and consider how others view you in a professional light. Take charge of a project and lead with self-assurance.

Introverted Thinking (Ti): Find some word game, puzzle, riddle, etc. that challenges your intellect and causes you to think. Find something that interests you and research it until you fully understand its intricate details. Have an intellectual debate or discussion. Apply yourself to some hobby or area of study and try to develop your internal sense of discipline and focus. Look at projects and consider the weak points and areas of improvement. Take time to draw back and consider things in an objective light, understanding the situation instead of becoming emotionally influenced. Develop your sense of independence, and work on projects that allow you to use your personal skills and get a sense of personal achievement.  

Extroverted Intuition (Ne): Play games or engage in activities that encourage divergent thinking and creativity. Think about some event (general or specific) coming up in the future and imagine all the great things that could happen during it. Surround yourself with people and pieces of art/literature/movies that are creative and exciting. Look at the future as a place of exciting opportunities, not of possible anxieties. Make a bucket list of things you could do in your life that excite you: the crazier, the better. Think about the things that you would want to change in your life. Brainstorm all the possible ways you could do it. Go on a spontaneous adventure with your friends.

Introverted Intuition (Ni): Watch a stranger out in public and try to paint a picture of what type of person they are from the way that they look. Reflect on the underlying themes or symbolism of a book or movie. Look at the overt facts of a situation or how someone is acting and piece them together to try to understand what is actually going on underneath the surface: how they are actually feeling, etc. Take individual pieces of information and concisely bring them together to form one general idea. Project yourself or a situation into the future and try to understand what will most likely come to be. Reflect on why things are the way that they are, even seemingly straightforward things. Follow your gut belief in a situation.

Extroverted Sensing (Se): Find a hobby such as a sport, artistic endeavor, craft, etc. Work with your hands on a project and try to physically understand how something works. Take a walk somewhere in nature or go to a museum and focus on the specific details of the beauty around you. Listen to music and try to pay attention to the individual sounds. Remember to live in the moment and experience life as it is happening around you. Do something spontaneous and crazy with your friends. Take a step back and remember to take things for as they are, and not to overanalyze anything. Think about the things that you want to or need to do this moment and go do some of them.

Introverted Sensing (Si): Take out old photos and try to place yourself in the emotions and experience of when you were there. Go visit a place of old memories or watch a movie you loved as a child. Re-start up an old family tradition. Create some sort of routine in your life to give you a bit of reassurance and organization. Appreciate the simple things in life and seek the unassuming nature of contentment. Reflect on the lessons you have learned in a situation once it has passed. Realize that not all mistakes need to be made, and that sometimes it is better to stick with what is safe.

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Reblogging because this is helpful and I’ll be using it.

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sorry 17 followers for spamming

i’m looking at a cognitive function test and what is this shit:

Compare an experience against a storehouse of familiar experiences to find what’s reliable.

what. what does this even mean? what kind of Si user would identify with something that sounds so pretentious and esoteric? 

(and yeah it’s very obviously taken directly from a description of Si somewhere, a good way to mess up test results)

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this test typed me as most likely ENTP, and secondly INTP or ESFJ

not sure what to make of that

it also backs up what I knew from earlier tests - that I use just as much, or a bit more, intuition than sensing