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What's so funny? What was I so afraid of? You are... fucking nothing. Really? Yeah. Really. You're just an empty fucking suit. Take away these powers... and what are you, huh? A pathetic... weak, sniveling fucking loser.
THE BOYS | 2019 - 2026 S05E01 ("Fifteen Inches of Sheer Dynamite")
sweet sweet freedom
I had predicted A-Train’s death for a while, and I’m somewhat relieved he went out early with how the rest of s5 went, but it’s been months and I still can’t shake my dissatisfaction with it.
There’s the obvious issue - he was my favorite character. And the less obvious issue - he was the perfect character to shake up the rather dull relationship dynamics of the Boys team.
But mostly I think it can be summed up by his line “giving a shit just gets you killed” and how that’s played out in his story so far.
A-Train has already died on camera twice prior to his final death scene and both were after moments of redemption or doing something good or, as he put it, giving a shit.
He admits his guilt over killing Popclaw, accepts the blame he was pushing off, seems to stop his attack against Hughie, and then instantly dies.
Then in s3, he watches his brother get hate crimed, finally apologizes to Hughie, decides to take justice into his own hands and kills BlueHawk, accepting the risk and essentially killing himself.
Finally, he decides to rise above his fear of Homelander and fully join the boys. For this, he immediately gets killed.
It’s weird to not finally narratively reward A-Train for his actions (especially given that Kripke says that characters get rewarded for good deeds on his show) but it’s even weirder to prove his mentality right. Given that the rest of the season flops the momentum and Vought remains, it just really feels like he died for nothing. But even more it feels like he should’ve at least stuck around for a few episodes longer so that the pattern could be broken and so that his development wasn’t instantly met with death.
like exactly this
Also like sure Reggie was mourned but not really ? It wasn’t given much screentime. MM pays tribute to him for two seconds but we never see his family ever again and Annie never says anything meaningful about it. Hughie says he’s not glad but that’s all. He remains friends with butcher throughout
I had predicted A-Train’s death for a while, and I’m somewhat relieved he went out early with how the rest of s5 went, but it’s been months and I still can’t shake my dissatisfaction with it.
There’s the obvious issue - he was my favorite character. And the less obvious issue - he was the perfect character to shake up the rather dull relationship dynamics of the Boys team.
But mostly I think it can be summed up by his line “giving a shit just gets you killed” and how that’s played out in his story so far.
A-Train has already died on camera twice prior to his final death scene and both were after moments of redemption or doing something good or, as he put it, giving a shit.
He admits his guilt over killing Popclaw, accepts the blame he was pushing off, seems to stop his attack against Hughie, and then instantly dies.
Then in s3, he watches his brother get hate crimed, finally apologizes to Hughie, decides to take justice into his own hands and kills BlueHawk, accepting the risk and essentially killing himself.
Finally, he decides to rise above his fear of Homelander and fully join the boys. For this, he immediately gets killed.
It’s weird to not finally narratively reward A-Train for his actions (especially given that Kripke says that characters get rewarded for good deeds on his show) but it’s even weirder to prove his mentality right. Given that the rest of the season flops the momentum and Vought remains, it just really feels like he died for nothing. But even more it feels like he should’ve at least stuck around for a few episodes longer so that the pattern could be broken and so that his development wasn’t instantly met with death.
like exactly this
in A-Train’s final scene with his brother, Nathan brings up their conversation from the park where he said that Reggie never actually saved anyone (after Reggie lies to his nephews to try and appeal to them in the only way he knows how: bringing up his powers and his fame through Vought)
Reggie here says “you were right” and Nathan says “not anymore. I’m still breathing ain’t I, Arana [reggies sister in law]”
and then he says “your nephews” and again those words are the words that trigger Reggie to move, to drop his head and clench his jaw
Knowing that this scene is the one that motivates Reggie to show up to the camp (and sacrifice his life) it’s noteworthy that it’s his relationship to his nephews, their safety, that triggers the most physical reaction.
Then in the video he left in case of his death, despite how much he loves his brother, how that relationship is his guiding light throughout the series, he only mentions his nephews - “I just want my nephews to know that when the going got tough, their uncle got tougher.”
(and this is consistent with Reggie and Nathan’s reunion in s3 mentioned here)
Scenes in which Nate implies Reggie’s life is worth more than his powers/being A-Train & scenes in which Reggie doesn’t believe him
“At least you’ll still be breathing”
“I’m not gonna sit here and watch you kill yourself”
“Or you don’t and you can just be my pain in the ass little brother Reg” followed up by “let me tell you man I’m happier coaching these kids than I ever was working at Vought.”
I had predicted A-Train’s death for a while, and I’m somewhat relieved he went out early with how the rest of s5 went, but it’s been months and I still can’t shake my dissatisfaction with it.
There’s the obvious issue - he was my favorite character. And the less obvious issue - he was the perfect character to shake up the rather dull relationship dynamics of the Boys team.
But mostly I think it can be summed up by his line “giving a shit just gets you killed” and how that’s played out in his story so far.
A-Train has already died on camera twice prior to his final death scene and both were after moments of redemption or doing something good or, as he put it, giving a shit.
He admits his guilt over killing Popclaw, accepts the blame he was pushing off, seems to stop his attack against Hughie, and then instantly dies.
Then in s3, he watches his brother get hate crimed, finally apologizes to Hughie, decides to take justice into his own hands and kills BlueHawk, accepting the risk and essentially killing himself.
Finally, he decides to rise above his fear of Homelander and fully join the boys. For this, he immediately gets killed.
It’s weird to not finally narratively reward A-Train for his actions (especially given that Kripke says that characters get rewarded for good deeds on his show) but it’s even weirder to prove his mentality right. Given that the rest of the season flops the momentum and Vought remains, it just really feels like he died for nothing. But even more it feels like he should’ve at least stuck around for a few episodes longer so that the pattern could be broken and so that his development wasn’t instantly met with death.
Still have so many (negative) thoughts about what s5e1 did to a train, gonna make an actual post about why it's actually dumb lazy and uninspired and not just cos I lkke him when im back from the pool
Ok so the decision to kill off a-train, especially as if this is some great narrative moment pisses me off as a lazy and uninspired move for two semi related reasons
dying is easy, living's harder
Refusing a person the cartharsis of punishment (death)
Like A-Train is definitely one of the more interest characters in this show and I've kind of always been gripped by him because he's actually got some complexity and he acts in complex ways.
So this comes down to the two main things I believe about A-Train (reducing him to two points is sort of an oversimplification of his character so not entirely accurate but bear with)
A-Train is kinda selfish
A-Train is canny
So, this is best shown in season 2 where he gives Annie and Hughie the dirt on stormfront. Because let's be clear. A-Train does not do this because of a moral grandstanding issue that means all nazis must be purged from the earth. I mean I'm not saying it's not a benefit for him, and his own personal opinions do differ from his drive to act but in his own words, if he wants back in he needs her out because she's a racist fucking nazi, literally, and will do everything in her- quite considerable- power to lock him out.
So, A-Train gets "redemption" (which is a reductive take and a dumb term) because in season 4 he finally turns rat and helps out the boys, not just for his gain but because he feels Vought is wrong. This is after season 3 where he's increasingly mad at vought and homelander for letting bluehawk's racism (and wider vought racism) stand and its direct consequences on A-Train's brother and his community.
But like, okay so in many ways A-Train is a good man, who is doing good things, and maybe often the primary motivtion is looking after him and his own, but so fucking what? Like Hughie was so noble at first, we all start somewhere.
But A-Train will always have been the man he was in season 2, and season 1. He killed a woman and it was an accident- but he wasn't even sorry.
He will always be the man who killed his girlfriend becuase it was easier, he'll be the guy who's complacency and going along to get along started shit, he'll be the guy who drove his brother away.
And A-Train knows this ok? Season 1, he blames Hughie and Hughie doesn't take it, and the way A-Train's voice breaks on the "I know." (Jesse T Usher man)
so. he's got his brother back, and he's doing good and he's not having to play the role he's been forced into as a famous Black man, playing up being a player and unbothered and so chirpy. He's able to Make A Difference for people. To Do Good.
and he will still always be the man who killed his girlfriend and played Vought's games for years and killed people for Homelander. Who killed people by accident because he was hihg and Vought covered it up because A-Train was better than them.
Make him him fucking live with that. He's not Homelander, A-Train has guilt. Killing him off, nothing interesting abotu that. He dies saving Hughie and the Boys, he dies because he doesn't repeat his old mistakes and he gets to go out a saviour who never did anythign wrong now because you dont' speak ill of the dead and he died a hero. A living person can be so much more complex.
MAKE A-TRAIN HAVE TO RATIONALISE WHAT HE DID AND WHAT HE'S DOING.
and don't get me wrong, I'm not trying ot be all he can't move forward/he can't move on, he can, and he was. But moving forward doesn't mean the past has changed. It's like that quote about how grief doesn't shrink but you grow larger around it.
and this is where the selfishness and the canniness come in. Because A-train knows what he's like and who he is and why he's doing what he does. okay. okay?
make this man fucking live and he's a hero and he's done so much good and he's a good man and he has his brother back. He gets to Say He's Sorry and he's still always going to be the man who killed his girlfriend
maverick in s3e1 in a similar vein in the sense that like, would it be bad if we make Hughie face that as much as he's teh conscience and everyone lauds him for being teh good one he made his choices too? and he likes to shy from them even if he says otherwise. oh but the kid he left and he ruined is dead now so the cycle's broken without him having to do anything it's fine.
so A-Train and his brother have been estranged since season 1, when Nathan cuts Reggie off for being on compound-v. (“I’m not gonna sit here and watch you kill yourself”) In season 3, despite being sober for a while now, A-Train hasn’t reached out or tried to fix things with Nathan. Nathan makes the first move by coming to Reggie’s doctor’s appointment. He asks Reggie to confirm his sobriety before he invites him over.
(in this scene and the scene at the house it’s so obvious how close they were. it is so easy it is for them to fall back into a flow.)
BUT this post is specifically because I love this moment:
When Nathan invites Reggie over, Reggie looks apprehensive
but when Nathan mentions “the boys” (Reggie’s nephews), Reggie moves. He blinks twice, sucks his lips and looks down.
“I know the boys would love to see you”
It’s the idea of his nephews seeing him that causes the most discomfort, not his brother or his sister-in-law (who know way more of his sins).
He knows he’s not someone the boys should admire, but isn’t ready to really face his relationship with fame/vought/himself (right now he can’t run - what does he have to offer his nephews without his powers?).
his brother is willing to give him a chance and bring him around the whole family, but Reggie hates himself too much to enjoy it.
he doesn’t smile, or even verbally respond, but how could he ever ignore his big brother’s outstretched hand?
happy Father’s Day to MM and Annie January
from The Boys Instagram account. one of the best A-Train promo photos ever.
kinda went overboard with the editing so here’s the simple version lmao
ugh.