Hello! I was wondering if you knew if hyacinth bulbs and roots can be used in flying ointments, or stuff like calla lily petals, larkspur blooms, snowdrop flowers, hydrangea flowers, non sambac Jasmine varieties, etc? I don't have anything traditional like belladonna or hellebore, but I'd like to make flying ointments and I was wondering if you knew If non traditional but toxic plants could be used as substitutes, or if it's just stuff like belladonna, datura, etc that can be used? Thank you
So give these two posts a look at the bottom. The first one clarifies what a Flying Ointment isn’t. I wouldn’t suggest using toxic ingredients you aren’t sure about. You need to research each of those ingredients individually. Formulating a Flying Ointment is both magic and science because if you do things wrong, there can be serious repercussions. When in doubt, less is more. When you don’t know, none is more.
Flying ointments have changed a fair amount from when they were first created because of science. We’ve taken out ingredients that, while powerful in their own right are too dangerous to put in an ointment. Wolfsbane was a common addition, it’s witchy, it’s powerful, has a rich history and connection to the land, and is so full of toxins it can kill within an hour. It was taken out.
The use of those “regular” Witching herbs is for a reason and that is the alkaloids (see the second post). Transdermal (through the skin) application prevents the body from absorbing the super dangerous chemicals. BUT THIS ISNT THE SAME FOR EVERY TOXIC PLANT. Just because it works for the nightshades doesn’t mean it would work with other toxic herbs and parts.
Additional research needs to be done on the parts of the plant you’re using. For example Datura.Whole thing is toxic, but each part has different concentrations.While you would think the root is the most toxic, it isn’t. Root and flower have the least amount of alkaloid toxins depending on the variety. Seeds and newly sprouted leaves have the highest concentrations.
The point of these ointments isn’t just putting poison on your skin, it’s these specific poisons that have predictable results. Some plants that are poisonous are just going to poison you.I can’t tell you if the examples you gave are viable options because my ointments are based on classical ingredients. So I researched those ingredients, their byproducts, interactions, chemicals, affects on neuropathways, side effects, toxicity levels, rate that body process them, if they are expelled from the body, or if they compound and a lot more…What you’re asking is not a classical flying ointment ingredient I’ve worked with so you’ve got some hard work ahead of you. If you plan on using those.
My advice, if you aren’t sure, don’t. Just buy an ointment from someone who knows what they’re doing, or practice making ritual salves like straight up mugwort or something like chamomile and rosemary. Don’t put yourself at risk because you want to do something others are doing.
https://barberwitch.tumblr.com/post/171203760856/hey-im-interested-in-making-my-own-flying
http://bringthegoodones.tumblr.com/post/170873115296/hello-just-curious-do-you-still-sell-your-flying
🦇Cheers, Barberwitch
Remember, not all poisons are equal. Not all poisons work the same. Not all poisons should be used.
