Do u ever think about how like Joyce lowkey treats Max better than Chloe? Because Max was kinda the golden child to Chloe's scapegoat. /gen
YES I HAVE ACTUALLY!!!!!!! you guys ever think about how joyce didn’t believe david was being a surveillance creep until max said something about it AFTER chloe? she doesn’t even need any evidence, just max’s word was enough to convince. it takes Max, after 5 years, to come back to arcadia bay and tell joyce that david is an asshole for joyce to start believing her. and even then joyce tells chloe to shut up after she gets one snide comment at him, as if she hasn’t been through years worse.
joyce says she moved on from the past, but i think she idealizes it just as much as chloe does, she just copes differently.
when joyce talks about max, it’s “beautiful young woman” but when it comes to chloe it’s “speak of the devil” that’s your daughter??? sometimes joyce makes it hard for me to believe she even Likes chloe.
joyce just. so soso clearly puts herself before her daughter. and max, infuriatingly, never once questions joyce for that.
max is the suck-up, people pleaser when it comes to adults, and chloe is the brash, rebel. and that is perfectly shown in their dynamics with joyce.
neither is inherently wrong but i am Very Surprised that chloe never holds joyce’s high pedestal of max against either of them. it’s actually pretty telling of her character. uhhh something self hatred something also puts people on pedestals ex: max.
i’ve been saying max was joyce’s golden child for ages… but i never quite considered chloe as a scapegoat specifically, but i think you’re right.
everything wrong with chloe is chloe’s fault, and everything wrong with max is often chloe’s fault— and also max’s fault for not Fixing chloe.
tysm 4 the ask… it’s too bad we never got to see this dynamic played out more. i would’ve loved to see max break out of her role and Actually stand up for chloe. she’s done it for others, why can’t she with chloe to joyce? (because max also idealizes her past and joyce is essential to that past. standing up to joyce would be like standing up to her own mother, which. max clearly isn’t heavy on)
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