Ship and Let Ship

Male. Not my own person. Call me Bro/Mitch

[electrocentric]

“Proship people shouldn’t post their gross dark things because children are on the internet!”

Ok, so stop posting about adult media on the internet in general, cuz it’s not meant for kids. Stop posting angst, you’ll make the kids upset. Stop making sex jokes and thirsting over your faves, the kids shouldn’t know what you’re talking about. Stop using the internet at all actually, because why are you, as an adult, so eager to interact with a space that you believe should be catering to kids and kids only?

People just don’t wanna admit that the “think about the children” mindset is almost always NOT, in fact, about the children, but because people like weaponizing minors to push their own agendas against people they find “gross” and “immoral”. You’re just repackaging bigot rhetoric because you don’t like a post you saw in a public, adult-dominated space.

[drinking-with-cupid]

Reblog this if you're a proshipper/neutral and have been harassed by an anti before.

I wanna see smth...

[proshippers-against-censorship]

It's like, really funny to me when antishippers act as though they are saying anything new lmao Not only is a lot of their rhetoric essentially copied homework of anti-gay&trans rhetoric that has been passed down for centuries beat-for-beat with a different buzzword. Not only is the common antishipper mindset that 'if a kid stumbles upon your fiction they could be groomed to do it in real life" basically the newest equivalent of "video games will make you violent". But the actual debate between Proshipper VS Antishipper, from my research anyway, dates all the way back to 2016. A whole eight years ago. And it most likely goes back even earlier. Antishippers are literally just reciting old, already debunked talking points to a new generation and have the audacity to act like heroes of justice about it

Foolish antis.

[cleric-chono-is-my-everything]

Being an anti is the exact opposite of being progressive and anyone who told you otherwise is lying. It's the exact same rhetoric used to justify homophobia and transphobia, but since it's now directed at an "acceptable target" some of you people are just fine with it.

[twelve-thousand-pizzas]

Every day I hope that fandom will one day get back to normal. Like, eventually people will realize how stupid this whole discourse was and the pendulum will swing again. If you try to silence people for long enough, they‘ll grow sick of it and you’ll be overthrown. (Good riddance)

[our-proshipper-safespace]

I've seen the terms 'toxic yaoi/yuri' used by antis a lot recently to describe morally questionable ships that they like, and it amuses me. They're openly admitting to liking unhealthy pairings but won't admit that they're actually proshippers...

They think it's okay because they know it's bad. As if we don't.

[mtchless]

This is also them indirectly admitting they understand the appeal of taboo pairings, and their hatred towards our fictional interests is unjust and hypocritical.

[fictionaloveward]

proship people who dont rlly like "problematic dynamics" are the goats fr, you dont match our freak but you still support us? thats so sweet

[sujimdipity]

Cross posting this banger on here.

[apocalypticromantic666]

The thing is, they CAN distinguish the two. They just choose to be willfully ignorant of nuance for the sake of virtue-signaling.

They'll shriek at Sebaciel content (or whatever they find problematic) and use sex-repulsed CSA victims as a poster child as the reason for their disgust which they disguise as moral righteous anger. But when a CSA survivor who is hypersexual and uses fictional content as therapy steps forward and says "Hey, this content actually helps me", they lose their fucking shit and either:

A. Scream that the victim lied about their abuse

B. Scream that they deserved their abuse

C. Scream that they're a pedophile and compare the victim to their abuser

They shouldn't even have access to the fucking internet because all they use it for is to seek out whatever they hate to 'trigger' themselves and bully people by doxxing, dogpiling and suicide baiting.

Until antis are mature enough to block and filter tags, avoid what they don't like and interact only with what they do, their phones should have a fucking parental lock.

If they want to behave like sniveling, whining children, they should be treated as such.

[sujimdipity]

Cross posting this banger on here.

[apocalypticromantic666]

The thing is, they CAN distinguish the two. They just choose to be willfully ignorant of nuance for the sake of virtue-signaling.

They'll shriek at Sebaciel content (or whatever they find problematic) and use sex-repulsed CSA victims as a poster child as the reason for their disgust which they disguise as moral righteous anger. But when a CSA survivor who is hypersexual and uses fictional content as therapy steps forward and says "Hey, this content actually helps me", they lose their fucking shit and either:

A. Scream that the victim lied about their abuse

B. Scream that they deserved their abuse

C. Scream that they're a pedophile and compare the victim to their abuser

They shouldn't even have access to the fucking internet because all they use it for is to seek out whatever they hate to 'trigger' themselves and bully people by doxxing, dogpiling and suicide baiting.

Until antis are mature enough to block and filter tags, avoid what they don't like and interact only with what they do, their phones should have a fucking parental lock.

If they want to behave like sniveling, whining children, they should be treated as such.

[dovemitri]

Obviously taboo topics can and should be defended with the logic that just because you’re writing something dark doesn’t mean you condone or are into it, but I sometimes feel like those who are writing or drawing something for horny reasons are lesser or forgotten.

Its actually also fine to write/draw incest or noncon because it turns you on. It doesn’t just have to be for plot reasons, or obviously depicted as a negative thing. You’re allowed to have fetishes and kinks that are fucked up, and express them in the safe space that is fiction.

Fiction always has been and always will be a safe space to explore dark topics, for everyone.

[myfandomrealitea]

Antis are so obsessed with children that it's frightening. They shouldn't be that obsessed. It gives some thought. Were the antis really paedophiles?

The thing I've always found most ironic is the fact that antis often use "proshipper spaces are used to groom children!" as a gotcha tagline, while steadfast refusing to understand that their spaces are also used to groom children, abuse children and vulnerable people, and that antis have collectively shared more real life child pornography than proshipping spaces ever have.

[mtchless]

That "gotcha" also normalizes abuse that happens in proship spaces. They're telling predators where vulnerable under 18s are, then blaming the content the under 18s engage with instead of the predators.

[mtchless]

Has the number of proshippers gone up or down in recent years, from what you have seen?

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Voting ended onJun 11, 2024

[maedaexoxo-deactivated20260123]

"Hi kids! If you like playing pretend, then you need mental help, and if your professional therapist that has studied human phycology and probably knows a lot more about human needs than I do tells you its ok to play pretend, DON'T LISTEN TO EM!!! Instead listen to me, A rando on the interweb© Because I know what's best for kids. oN tHe oThEr hAnD, if YOU are an adult who likes playing pretend, theeeeen... YOU SHOULD KYS NOW! ANYWAYS BYYYYYYYE!!!!!!! LOL XD HAHAHAHAHA" This is how genuinely insane some of you sound. For the love of my sanity... PLS GET HELP

[lambofkhalaa]

hey, proshippers/anti-censorships. please don't say shit like: "dni if you can't seperate fiction from reality" or call antis "people who can't tell fiction and reality apart"

it's insulting to people with psychosis and doesn't make you any better than antis. thank you.

antis, too, stop with the "what about people who can't seperate them??" and the slenderman stabbing argument. thank you again

[mtchless]

YunoxYukixAru are a non-romantic pairing of 3

YunoxAru are enemies with benefits‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ AruxYuki are a committed friendship with a protector/protected dynamic‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ YukixYuno are an on and off toxic relationship with complicated feelings

[mtchless]

Remember, taboo fiction is a fight for every one.

Those who ship to cope are deserving of respect, but grimacing at those who don't isn't what proship is about. You don't have to be traumatized to enjoy taboo fiction.

We lose the plot in fiction arguments. It devolves into the validity of mental issues, trauma, and coping a large portion of the time.

Fiction is for all.

[mtchless]

Non-romantic Shipper flag

For people who ship non-romantically. Enjoying the dynamic of pairings in a way that is not romance.

Don't steal my shit.